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Kitano discusses new film on homosexual relations in samurai era, Japan's showbiz world

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Kitano discusses new film on homosexual relations

This is the same fellow who claimed back in 2012 that if you supported gay marriage "then eventually you would support marriage to an animal."

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2012/06/03/national/media-national/homophobic-joke-goes-awry-for-beat/

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film on homosexual relations in samurai era

Samurai is well known good in playing with sword, after that film which sword is that?

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When do people like Takeshi, Samma, Tamori, etc really spill the beans on the industry? They have been around for decades. They must have plenty of stories to tell. They are getting old now and must surely be powerful enough to get their own way.

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Watched some on TV while I waited in an ENT clinic.

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Sort of Brokeback Mount fuji,

Great film maker. also a bare faced hypocrite.

“In old days, in the Japanese entertainment industry, I wouldn't go as far as calling it slavery, but people used to be treated a commodities, from which money is made while showing them off. This is something that's still left in the culture of Japanese entertainment," Kitano said.

What a load of nonsense, outright commercial slavery, the very definition of abuse/exploitation that Kitano/the government/the entertainment industry all turned a blindeye, whilst the culprits reaped financial reward, committing gross criminal acts of sexual abuse of minors sometimes in plain sight

Kitano may have not have been a perpetrator, however he shrugged, stood by and did nothing

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Kitano discusses new film on homosexual relations in samurai era, Japan's showbiz world

The samurai were totally gay in the manner of the Ancient Greeks with their pillow boys.

You can see echoes of this today with a certain organization of renamed Smiley boys.

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The Wakashudoo

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He already starred in the movie "Gohatto" (Taboo) by the late Nagisa Ōshima. The movie also talks about "Nanshoku" or homosexual male relationships among the samurai. I guess he is just following his mentor's footsteps

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He would know. He is one of the worst offenders, himself treating people like commodities and showing them off for laughs, in my humble opinion.

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This is why the LDP stance of “Japan has no history with gay people and we need the people’s understanding” makes so little sense. Japan has one of the longest documented histories of open homosexuality around. Not only the powerful warlords and their closest retainers, who were usually young handsome men who would often sleep near/with them. But also well documented male brothels existed too openly. It was basically Ancient Greece up in here until imperialism kicked off and they started trying to be more Western Europe

Also beat Takeshi doing this is a whole kind of irony. LDP and this dude being hypocritical as usual

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Kitano's movies are great...

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Kitano's movies are great...

Possibly, although I have heard numerous times he is a terrible actor. Can't tell myself because Japanese acting is etc.

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This is the same fellow who claimed back in 2012 that if you supported gay marriage "then eventually you would support marriage to an animal."

Not declaring absolute equivalency, but I don't see how that's too much of stretch. I remember when "Minor Attracted Peoples" (MAPs) were simply referred to as paedophiles.

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Just like Roman Gladiators.

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Kitano is at least lifting the lid on sexual mores and industry exploitation in Japan at last whatever his position had been in the past.

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Not surprised how his views on homosexualtiy has changed in the past decade. Promoting samurai sword fighting will definitely secure his position in the film industry.

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Men crossing swords. Nothing new.

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He was very funny in his early days but after that became known for being overpaid and contributing very little to whatever program he was on. As for his movies...no thanks.

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Roman Gladiators and gay sex.

Over 2000 years ago, ancient Roman gladiators had gay sex with one another. It was considered the ultimate form of male bonding.

https://mensvariety.com/homosexuality-gladiators/

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As KarlCRJP mentioned, Takeshi was the star of "Gohatto" which focused on the homesexual theme of a young samurai and those in love with him, so this has been explored before.

I'm starting to wonder if he's trying to tell us something about his own personal feelings.

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BigPass

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Randy Daytona

Roman Gladiators and Samurai both enjoyed male sex and bonding.

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Lets not please

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Takeshi is probably just following the money.

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We have had films about adultery, pedophilia, bestiality…why wouldn’t a Japanese filmmaker choose homosexuality?

However, like afore mentioned films, I hope no one will put money in Mr. Kitano’s pocket by buying a movie ticket, the future DVD, or by streaming it.

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TokyoLivingToday  08:30 am JST

Kitano's movies are great...

Total garbage!!

Sound like someone you know?

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We have had films about adultery, pedophilia, bestiality

Really? Has someone been making Bible adaptations?

I don’t keep up with films very much.

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*Not declaring absolute equivalency, but I don't see how that's too much of stretch. I remember when "Minor Attracted Peoples" (MAPs) were simply referred to as *paedophiles.

Is this ‘MAP’ expression common usage these days?

Genuine question.

Our rightwing North American podcast watchers have been parroting this expression quite a lot. They do tend to get a bit excitable when free thinking.

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However, like afore mentioned films, I hope no one will put money in Mr. Kitano’s pocket by buying a movie ticket, the future DVD, or by streaming it

Every time your moral outrage compels you to read and comment, an advertiser who supports LGBTQ profits.

Thank you for your contribution.

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Didn't he portray a gay, at least bisexual, samurai before..."Taboo"??

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He is running out of ideas

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Sounds like a great movie.

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Doesn’t sounds like he has changed his stance on homosexuality, he calls them murky relationships which is not a positive, you see.

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He is following his true interest.

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Kitano has actually played as (not-so) side character in Nagisa Ogisa's Shinsengumi-themed movie Taboo (Gohatto 御法度) in 1999, where the main character (Tadanobu Asano) had a near-obsession passion for bishonen Ryuhei Matsuda, so he's already quite familiar with the subject. He also played a very violent yakuza who had a master-(sex) slave relationship with his host-like ikemen underling in Gonin*, so he always stroke me as someone who wasn't anti-gay. Maybe his 2012 foot-in-mouth same-sex marriage joke was just said trying to be funny (though he failed miserably.)

he played Shinsegumi boss Isami Kondo, who wasn't involved in a same-sex relationship in the movie, but he was more of an observer/bystander of Asano and Matsuda's (very) tense relationship.
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eek sorry Kitano actually played Toshizo Hijikata! (my favorite Shinsengumi maaan!!! pardon me) and he is also attracted to Matsuda, though not as crazily as Asano.

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Not declaring absolute equivalency, but I don't see how that's too much of stretch. I remember when "Minor Attracted Peoples" (MAPs) were simply referred to as paedophiles.

They still are. MAP is a troll term that originated on places like 4 Chan. It was invented to troll people because it insinuated that being a paedophile was "just a sexual orientation". In other words, it's a completely non-serious term used by trolls for homophobic purposes and by the very people that the term describes, aka the pedos.

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Kitano discusses new film on homosexual relations in samurai era, Japan's showbiz world

LOL Why?

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These are the ulta violent most popular Japanese directors since the 90s. All of their movies are violent except mentioned in the brackets)

Takeshi Kitano (A Scene at the Sea, Kikujiro, Kids Return)

Takashi Miike (The Bird People in China, God's Puzzle and the Remake The Happiness of the Katakuris)

Sion Sono (Be Sure to Share, Love and Peace, The Whispering Star)

Sabu (Drive, Burning Bell, Bunny Drop)

The only real Japanese director at the moment is Hirokazu Koreeda.

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