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Hollywood is full of perverted slimeballs.

Who knows what kind of sick (and illegal) behavior they are up to in their parties.

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Hollywood is full of perverted slimeballs.

Who knows what kind of sick (and illegal) behavior they are up to in their parties.

To be fair, your particular take on anyone outside the traditional heterosexual family unit would mean that quite a significant amount of us - divorced/LGBT/single parent etc would be condemened for causing moral outrage.

The Woody Allen debacle has being going on for 30 years. I not sure I trust either of the parties, but I don't know if I can face the documentary.

Been a WA fan since before many of you were born, so it's a conflict. But if the guy done wrong, he deserves to be served justice.

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His creepy personal life overshadows the earlier movies that made us laugh. (Everyone wanted to work with him, despite the stories.( - and yes, “Polanski is the worst!”)

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No surprise he never went to prison. Rich, famous and powerful are “get out of jail free” cards.

just look at the people who stayed at Epstein's Pedo Island. Zero arrested.

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Marrying your adopted daughter is insane.

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Confused by your @Toasted10:17a 3rd para ‘not sure” while yesterday’s Manson story, you rationally explained and seemed to support why ‘late’ reporting occurs. Not condemning,... just want to understand the ‘conflict’.

I guess I am biased. Loved WA for so long - it was difficult 30 years ago, when the allegations first surfaced. MM came later and at that stage I was, am, disillusioned. It would appear that one shouldn't have much faith in one's "heroes". Because some of them are going to let the fans down, and some of them are going to do terrible things.

If WA and MM are indeed, predators, they deserve jail sentences. Late reporting, or not.

At the end of the day, it's not about my feelings, or the fans feelings - it's about the victims feelings.

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The Woody Allen debacle has being going on for 30 years. I not sure I trust either of the parties,

As talented as Allen is, the man has always had a very peculiar and unhealthy relationship with his daughters as well as kids, now do I trust the allegations? I do. Do I believe the kids? I do, but do we know for certain? No, but given his out of line history when it comes to all the allegations to child porn and foundling and inappropriately touching young girls, I tend to believe the allegations from so many witnesses are very likely.

Been a WA fan since before many of you were born, so it's a conflict. But if the guy done wrong, he deserves to be served justice.

Same here, but I don't think the man should be anywhere near a child regardless.

Marrying your adopted daughter is insane.

Worse actually.

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So, if the left don’t like someone it’s cancel culture and if the right don’t it’s ‘he’s a pedo, no court’

That about it?

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Well, After I saw how he dumped Mia and then took off with his daughter, I was just through with the guy and never looked back, it was wrong on all levels and then he tried to make Mia look like she's the one with the mental problem. Smh....

You sound like someone talking about a season of Desperate Housewives.

Do you still believe in law and order or are you all for the court of public opinion now?

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Confused by your @Toasted 10:17a 3rd para ‘not sure” while yesterday’s Manson story, you rationally explained and seemed to support why ‘late’ reporting occurs. Not condemning,... just want to understand the ‘conflict’.

Understood @itsonlyrocknroll: the film ‘legacy’ is remarkable but the ‘affair’ was “inappropriate”.

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Whatever you believe, it is clear that Hollywood mores decades ago were pretty awful. some might say traces persist to this day. As for evidence, implication and innuendo are now what so much commentary and "reporting" rely on. Just look at US political reporting to see the effect of this new low standard.

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“Cancel culture gone rampant”

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WA marrying is own adopted daughter needs to get his head checked. Yes he is funny but WA had a woody day one for this innocent girl who is now his wife. He only made it official to marry her come to terms with is perverted mind to avoid criminal actions. This guy should be locked up, personally I think when Mia found out what he was doing she wanted to out him which she did, but powerful hollywierd protected him and he fled the country. If he feels he has done anything he should come back and face the truths. THis perv should be locked up. If anything he manipulated the young girl now his wife with promises and we really won't know the truth until he crocks.

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WA marrying is own adopted daughter needs to get his head checked. Yes he is funny but WA had a woody day one for this innocent girl who is now his wife. He only made it official to marry her come to terms with is perverted mind to avoid criminal actions. This guy should be locked up, personally I think when Mia found out what he was doing she wanted to out him which she did, but powerful hollywierd protected him and he fled the country. If he feels he has done anything he should come back and face the truths. THis perv should be locked up. If anything he manipulated the young girl now his wife with promises and we really won't know the truth until he crocks.

I think all people are innocent until proven guilty, but having said that, I couldn't agree more, I think most people overall would agree with that, personally speaking.

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Calling something a documentary doesn't mean it is the 100% truth.

Pardon me if I'm skeptical.

I'll assume instead this is a fictional take on a historical figure like the JFK movie was. Mostly true, but with just a few items added to lead the viewers in the direction the director and writer wants which are not 100% true.

Neither are court documents 100% truth.

The courts can be manipulated. I've seen it with friends during their divorces. The ex/separated wife shows up to pick up the kids at the father's place, make a huge noise, claims he was drunk loudly so everyone can hear, claims he slapped her out of sight, looking for the neighbors to testify of this event later. The kids go when her and guess what the man gets to do? He runs to the closest hospital and has a full examination to prove his hands weren't in any altercation, and blood tests to prove he didn't have any substances in his blood. The ex does this a few times, to create a "pattern of abuse" for court. She loves it even more if a neighbor calls the police. That police report helps her case. It is another item to the paperwork stack handed over to the court for consideration. Courts can be manipulated.

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While I absolutely believe and support Dylan Farrow, I have to point out that Woody Allen did not marry his adopted daughter, and he was not involved in her upbringing. Soon-Yi Allen nee Previn was adopted by Mia Farrow and Andre Previn.

Doubting the victim and discounting their voice, especially when s/he is or was a child, has been so common in our culture over the generations. And it's always been wrong to do so. You'd think people would have learnt by now. Dylan Farrow was seven years old, which is certainly old enough to remember what is done to you.

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The courts can be manipulated.

That's not an issue. The Child Sexual Abuse Clinic of Yale–New Haven Hospital determined that Allen did NOT molest Dylan, after a month-long investigation.

If Allen can "manipulate" that kind of process, - not once but twice - then he has more power than anyone on Earth.

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Dylan Farrow was seven years old, which is certainly old enough to remember what is done to you.

It is, but it doesn't follow that everything someone says happened when they were seven is true. Dylan Farrow gave details that have been disputed as impossible by her own brother, who is familiar with their living space. That creates a problem, because it makes her story harder to substantiate. What should have served as persuasive, disturbing detail makes the central claim much less plausible.

http://mosesfarrow.blogspot.com/2018/05/a-son-speaks-out-by-moses-farrow.html

So the wider context, which also throws up considerable doubts, remains important. Specifically, Mia Farrow has been described as abusive (both psychologically and physically), manipulative, and dishonest. Some of her own children have made these claims about her, and that coaching was part of her modus operandi. Those are no less plausible than claims that Allen abused Dylan Farrow. Potentially they are far more so.

Mia Farrow's allegation of sexual abuse was made only after Allen's affair was discovered and they were engaged in a bitter custody battle. Not completely unusual, by any means, and certainly not automatically true. Around the same time, she also made claims about Soon-Yi Previn that she had never come out with before - that she was several years younger than stated on her official birth document (completely unprovable) and that she was mentally incompetent - in the language of the time, retarded (not particularly evident from Previn's own account of herself, either then or at any time since). This doesn't do much for Farrow's credibility.

So does that mean Dylan Farrow definitely wasn't abused? No.

Does it mean that Dylan Farrow wasn't abuse and could have been coached since the age of 7 in repeating a story that isn't true? Completely possible.

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A lot of the focus is on Mia Farrow, but it is Dylan Farrow who returned to make the accusation as an adult, seven years ago, at the age of twenty eight or so.

The counter-accusation is that she has chosen to repeat a falsehood because she was coached to do so at the age of seven by her mother. She is now thirty five, married with a child, busy with her own life, with no reason to return to all this except because it's true - to subject herself to such media scrutiny for a lie would have no positive impact on her.

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In Hollywood that's woke apparently.

Remember, diversity and inclusion.

Accept people for who they are.

What has any of the above got to do with the allegations?

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A lot of the focus is on Mia Farrow, but it is Dylan Farrow who returned to make the accusation as an adult, seven years ago, at the age of twenty eight or so.

Yeah, but it was Mia Farrow who busted out the allegation in the first place. Dylan was not old enough at the time to put that in the public sphere.

From the start, there were aspects to the claim that made the whole thing appear a bit fishy. While any father might have sexually abused their child - in the eyes of others, we can all be suspects in that regard, once such a claim is made - there is nothing in particular to indicate that Woody Allen would have abused his child. He had a spotless record where women (and children) were concerned. But for this single allegation, he has maintained it in the thirty years that followed.

Somehow the fact that so many people (not me, as it happens) are creeped out by his affair with Previn has been used to leverage the concept that he is a full-blown pedophile. That's a major red flag, because it's so logically flawed. Previn was 20 or 21 at the time the affair was discovered (her date of birth is unknown but is given as 1970 - accepting that and the timing of the affair makes her 21). However people try to cut it, she was an adult and old enough by a matter of years to make her own decisions on who she slept with. She has also, as far as anyone knows, lived a life that is consistent with that decision.

Very much in Allen's favour is the fact that he has been able to state his case, when he talks about it at all, without being caught out in lies, falsehoods, or inconsistencies. So has Soon Yi Previn. And there has been nothing so far to indicate that Moses Farrow is given to lying or getting his facts wrong.

Therefore, to dribble this sex-abuse story all the way up the field and belt it into the goal, there would need to be a lot more information and evidence against Allen, but it simply wasn't available then and it is never going to be available.

Further problems are that at least three of the family who are accusing Allen may be lying outright or deliberately playing fast and loose with the truth: credibility issues have been demonstrated for all of them. We can take Dylan first: her story about a train set and the room where the assault is said to have taken place has been dismissed as impossible by her brother. You yourself credit her memory as accurate, so you either buy into this story and its emotional detail, or you cut her a big pass and say she can't be expected to remember such things perfectly, so give her a break. The problem is that if that important detail is false, the assault itself may also be false, while the allegation of coaching would be strengthened. And there are no other sex abuse claims against Allen to fall back on.

Ronan Farrow is a huge problem. The drawback of being a journalist is that you can't erase what you've written from the record. He's made the choice to write about his family, and that's been looked at in great detail. His writing is riddled with claims that are based on exaggeration, bad research, and bad reporting, and he's had to row back from some of his positions. It never looks good when a journalist starts doing that, as wonder-boy Johann Hari also discovered.

Mia Farrow is the biggest problem of all. There are multiple allegations against her, and they are certainly plausible. They go well beyond "nightmare mother" - not in any way illegal - to physical abuse, which is. The conditions under which this could happen are certainly there: a seemingly pathological devotion to acquiring vulnerable children through international adoption. It's only the extremely naive who think that's a heartwarming story because some kid from some awful country lucked into getting adopted by a beautiful rich lady. Out of 10 adopted children, three died well before middle age, one by suicide, one by suspected suicide, and one after a miserable adulthood that amounted to a slow suicide. We have no way to know where they would have stood on Dylan's story as an adult, or what they would have said about themselves, but there are certainly stories that they were abused by Farrow. Two more of her adopted children, Previn and Moses Farrow, have cut themselves off from her, and neither of them have good things to say.

This can't just be dismissed as too much focus on Farrow. She provides the entire context by which Allen was placed under suspicion in the first place. It's interesting that the people who have broken away from Farrow (Allen, Soon-Yi Previn, Moses Farrow), seem able to speak with some relief at being free and do not seem to have anything they are anxious to hide.

While the response to Moses Farrow was a joint statement from the children who stayed on the team. A joint statement. That hostagey approach fits exactly the picture that Moses Farrow put out there in the first place.

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Snowymountainhell, human nature and the lust to covet the unattainable at any cost.

If necessary, to sacrifice the legacy afforded to a true respected legend of cinema.

Mia Farrow will never forgive, and in all honestly I don't blame her.

However, Mia Farrow, could be complicit in leveraging Dylan Farrow alleged trauma.

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Woody Allen is a truly gifted writer and film maker.

Is Mia Farrow a woman scorned, no doubt.

Did Woody Allen's inappropriate affair with Soon-Yi, Mia Farrow adopted daughter, sow the seeds of a woman so humiliated, that Farrow would strike back, and in so doing, stir a vengeance so absolute that Farrow would stop at nothing to devote every waking hour to see Allen legacy as a film maker laid waste.

I would, wouldn’t you?

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This pedo should have been locked up years ago. For years girls have come forward about his lechery and were never (even to this day) taken seriously. Shame on those who continued to work with him after he married his 'child'

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The film strongly implies that he might have successfully derailed the two official investigations....

If you make that kind of allegation, you need proof and evidence. "Implying" and "might" aint gonna cut it. Or it shouldn't cut it. Sadly, today we live in a time when people's feelings supersede evidence and proof, as seen with Trump's "stop and steal campaign," the Yewtree probe's attempt to destroy the reputations of innocent men and other purges.

Prove it with evidence or shut up.

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Well, After I saw how he dumped Mia and then took off with his daughter, I was just through with the guy and never looked back, it was wrong on all levels and then he tried to make Mia look like she's the one with the mental problem. Smh....

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Another lurid attempt to make money off of long dead allegations that were worthless than and more so now. But the public appetite for damning gore, however hokey, disproven and malicious, is bottomless...

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Too much wrong is with this article and indeed the movie. If you start off, as the directors did, with the premise that the alleged victim is, in fact, a victim, then where else is the movie supposed to go? And how is it supposed to interpret every action of the alleged perpetrator except to draw lines pointing to their premise? The directors themselves have a history of making movies regarding abuse victims, so how is this not evidence of intent on their part?

I do not claim to have any knowledge of the incident, other than what has been reported in the news and written by Allen, Farrow, and their children. However, I do know that when you set out your investigation believing one side of the story, everything on the other side appears sinister. And if it doesn’t, you’d better make it so for the sake of the final product.

We are told that he is a control freak, as evidenced buy the fact that he tried to put the blame on Farrow’s jealousy over Soon Yee. If you believe Dylan, of course this seems like damning evidence of something. If on the other hand you believe Allen, then it makes perfect sense.

Dylan’s whole life from the age of 7 has been in the spotlight due to this alleged abuse. She has stated that herself. Her whole existence has focused on this story. If it there were some evidence that proved the whole thing never happened, and this came to light, the past 30 years would be a complete charade. That is reason enough to make you want to be believed. And yet from Allen’s point of view, it’s also reason to be suspicious.

We are told the Allen is a pedophile and has a penchant for young girls. The general consensus on pedophilia is that people who mess with young children, do not hold attractions for adults or even teenagers. And yet, here is Allen, married to a 50 year-old “victim” of his, for 30 years. Which side does this support? According to the film-makers it shows he like young girls.

While I wouldn’t try to defend Allen in dating a 16 year old while he was in his 50s, in the world of psychology, there is a huge difference between 7 and 16. If he really did abuse Dylan, he should have a history of abusing small children, and yet nothing appeared either prior to, or since that one incident. None of this really makes sense.

The simplest explanation is that Allen pissed off his wife by messing with their teenage adopted child, and she decided to get back at him. While I still do not claim to know what happened, if I were asked to choose, I’d go with the simpler explanation.

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Marrying your adopted daughter is insane.

In Hollywood that's woke apparently.

Remember, diversity and inclusion.

Accept people for who they are.

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