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 The History channel is looking into the matter but stands behind its documentary.

What else are they going to say? Even if they are proven to be wrong they still will claim they are right!

Curious who the Japanese history blogger is, and also curious now about the actual provenance of of the photo used to be the basis of the history channel's claims

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Kota Yamano, a military history blogger who unearthed the Japanese photograph, said it took him just 30 minutes to effectively debunk the documentary’s central claim.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/11/blogger-discredits-claim-amelia-earhart-was-taken-prisoner-by-japan

Wasn't some former big cheese at the FBI involved in this documentary? Bit of a black eye for him and the History Channel....

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She and Noonan probably at bottom of the ocean. Wasting time looking for her bones on Pacific isles. Better to look for the plane at the bottom of the ocean.

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Controversy sells. They have to claim that this is her and hope that people watch to find out more.

Nope. This is on the level of all the UFO "investigative reports", I'm afraid. Total bunk.

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Am halfway through the HC doco that aired a couple of days ago, really dunno what to think & who to believe. Japan may have the answer. Doco's on youtube btw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4rryt--lyQ

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Does the History Channel actually show history programmes? I thought it was all reality shows, UFOs and a bit of Hitler on occasion...

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really dunno what to think & who to believe

Well, the fact that the exact same photo was definitely published in a book two years before the disappearance makes it pretty clear that you shouldn't believe the people claiming she is in the photo.

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I wouldn't be surprised if she and Noonan met their fate at the hands of Japanese captors as many historians believe.

I also wouldn't be surprised if previous Japanese governments destroyed any evidence that would bring that to life. It would be one more black eye on an already shameful war history

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Well, the fact that the exact same photo was definitely published in a book two years before the disappearance makes it pretty clear that you shouldn't believe the people claiming she is in the photo.

Yup. Good piece in the grauniad

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/11/blogger-discredits-claim-amelia-earhart-was-taken-prisoner-by-japan

Matthew B Holly, a military expert, told Agence France-Presse the photo appeared to have been taken about a decade earlier than the date given by the History Channel.

“From the Marshallese visual background, lack of Japanese flags flying on any vessels but one, and the age configuration of the steam-driven steel vessels, the photo is closer to the late 1920s or early 1930s, not anywhere near 1937,” he said.

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History TV has been rubbish for years ("reality TV for rednecks" is how one person described it), so this is exactly the type of poorly-researched documentary I'd expect them to broadcast.

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@clamenza

I wouldn't be surprised if she and Noonan met their fate at the hands of Japanese captors as many historians believe.

I also wouldn't be surprised if previous Japanese governments destroyed any evidence that would bring that to life. It would be one more black eye on an already shameful war history

Sure ...

and anyone who denies it is an extreme Right Winger revionist who believes the Americans made then do it too?

But if Kota Yamano turns out to be right, will you sing the Kimigayo and apologize to the Emperor while bowing deeply (... because, of course, you know the Japanese never do).

I'm just amazed that no one's mentioned Unit 'You-What-What' here.

Jeez, some of you guys are stuck records.

The bit I found funny was, "it took Kota Yamano just 30 minutes to effectively debunk the documentary’s central claim".

The History Channel would have been spending at least $100,000 per hour to make the program.

At least now we understand the prevailing view of Japanese history ... no one in the West spend even 30 minutes actually researching their subject, or reads Japanese sufficient well to use Japanese language sources about it.

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Hammerhead - the authenticity of this photograph good or bad, has nothing to do with my theory.

There are a thousand other scenarios where the two would have been captured by the Japanese in that part of the world in 1937.

it has nothing to do with political leanings

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There are a thousand other scenarios where the two would have been captured by the Japanese in that part of the world in 1937.

But they weren't. It didn't happen. It's conspiracy nonsense territory.

it has nothing to do with political leanings

Ah but it does. You desparately want it to be true so it fits in with your theory:

I also wouldn't be surprised if previous Japanese governments destroyed any evidence that would bring that to life. It would be one more black eye on an already shameful war history

Nobody's denying that bad things were done by Japan in the war. That's been covered to the nth degree over topics like Nanking and Comfort Women.

But the US record is shameful, too.

Anyway; this is sheer bunk and wishful thinking on the makers of this "documentary".

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You know exactly what I'm talking about.

And since my theory ( which is a common - held one by historians) has been proven false,

where we're the bodies discovered and when were documents unearthed??

you better share your exciting findings with historians right now! This is huge!!

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You know exactly what I'm talking about.

No. I don't. Since you're determined to wreck yet another interesting thread you'd best get it off your chest.

What has the debunking of this story got to do with Israel?

And since my theory ( which is a common - held one by historians) has been proven false,

where we're the bodies discovered and when were documents unearthed??

you better share your exciting findings with historians right now! This is huge!!

Ah, so the bodies weren't found - it has to be the Japanese what done it.

The photos in the story are anachronistic for the time it's allegedly suposed to have taken place. And there's no evidence as to who is actually pictured.

I've already posted a link which in your rage to engage you haven't read. Here's a few more

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/07/amelia-earhart-lost-photograph-discredited-spd/

http://www.flyingmag.com/history-channels-amelia-earhart-story-quickly-unravels#page-2

http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/07/history-channel-amelia-earhart-photo-debunked

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/07/12/history-channel-investigating-claims-amelia-earhart-photo-and-documentary-timeline/471360001/

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Duh. Time for you to read up on the story.

The authenticity of the photograph has nothing to do with the fact the two were lost somewhere around the Marshall Islands in July 1937. You're obviously not a historian so I'll let you in on a little secret; Japan controlled this area and might have executed the two as spies.

Sorry, I should have preceded that with a trigger warning..

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But it does amuse me that you wasted so much time in researching and posting 4 articles that have nothing to do with my hypothesis!!

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Duh. Time for you to read up on the story.

I have. You evidently haven't and have bought into some poorly researched documentary which only inflames anti-Japanese sentiment.

The authenticity of the photograph has nothing to do with the fact the two were lost somewhere around the Marshall Islands in July 1937. You're obviously not a historian so I'll let you in on a little secret; Japan controlled this area and might have executed the two as spies.

They might have flown them through a wormhole and met Elvis riding Shergar on the moon, as well.

Sorry, I should have preceded that with a trigger warning..

Or you could explain the deeply odd Israel comment, perhaps?

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But it does amuse me that you wasted so much time in researching and posting 4 articles that have nothing to do with my hypothesis!!

Or like posting cyptic accusations that have nothing to do with the topic, eh?

Thanks for wrecking another thread. I'll leave you to it.

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Read my comments again. I never once said the photograph was definitive proof or even authentic.

you can't seem to comprehend I gave an opinion. Your Elvis comment makes more sense as a retort, although far less likely.

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From the original book.

http://blog-imgs-110-origin.fc2.com/y/a/m/yamanekobunko/nannyouguntou.png

http://dl.ndl.go.jp/info:ndljp/pid/1223403/99

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@Toasted Heretic

Ah, so the bodies weren't found - it has to be the Japanese what done it.

Obviously ... and they then must have burned the evidence too!

I've heard that Amelia Earhart must have died in Unit 'You-Know-What' and the fact that there is absolutely no evidence of it proves it !!!

And the Howland Island belong to Korea!!! Or it is China?

(Having gone a couple of rounds with these people, I can write all their posts for them).

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around the Marshall Islands

Not really. Unless you also want to say they were 'around New Zealand'. They were hundreds of miles from the Marshalls, didn't have the fuel capacity to make it to the Marshalls from their last know location and wouldn't have turned towards the Marshalls if they had an emergency.

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