Rogan responds to Spotify protest, COVID advisories

Joe see his golden goose being cooked

I'm not trying to promote misinformation, I'm not trying to be controversial,” Rogan said. Really! That's what your whole podcast is about!

I'll take Joe Rogan over Seth Rogen any day

“I'm not trying to promote misinformation, I'm not trying to be controversial,” Rogan said. “I've never tried to do anything with this podcast other than to just talk to people.”

Exactly. But that's a crime in these people's eyes.

I notice Harry and Meghan didn't threaten to return the $25 million they got from Spotify for content they have yet to deliver. The royal grifters.

Giving legal or medical advice, from ignorant people is not harmless, aspiring to be ignorant is not ,anybody ought to aspire too

Rogan is "entertainment". Take it as satire, not science-based at all.

Advisories don't work.

Providing links to websites doesn't work.

Rogan needs to have an expert given 50% of the airtime during the same podcast as some wacko gets spouting junk. AND include the advisories and fact-based links too.

“He told me red means run son, numbers add up to nothin’.”

You tell’em, Neil!

rogan has hosted both pro and anti vax people, so i don't see why people are getting so worked up about this. rogan puts people on air and let's them speak. everyone is free to either disagree or agree with it.

Well if Megan Markle and that red-headed chap who follows her around are complaining about misinformation, we need to sit up and take notice. These people aren't happy unless everyone is either agreeing with them or silenced. And what makes them experts on what is fact and falsehood anyhow?

Rogan, on the other hand, has conversations, and clearly has people on from various professions and walks of life. He challenges experts from a well-informed layman's perspective and doesn't pretend to be a know it all, which is one reason why he's so appealing. He had CNN's Dr Sanjay Gupta on the ropes and forced him to admit CNN was lying. And he wasn't agreeing with with everything Drs Malone and MacCulloch were saying either. That's fine as far as I'm concerned.

When you try to stop people from speaking in stead of challenging them on an open forum, you become part of the problem, not part of the solution.

Rogan responded to the fallout on Sunday, saying in a video on Instagram that he was only seeking to have conversations on his podcast with people who have “differing opinions.” “I'm not trying to promote misinformation, I'm not trying to be controversial,” Rogan said. “I've never tried to do anything with this podcast other than to just talk to people.”

Rogan actually "apologized" - something that wasn't mentioned in the article....

Podcaster Joe Rogan apologized on Sunday to anyone who is offended by his frequent broadcast of misinformation about the coronavirus and the vaccine as pressure increases against Spotify, which hosts his show.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-rogan-neil-young-apology_n_61f77edce4b067cbfa1ed413

And of course, he also accurately described himself a year ago;

*Last year, for example, he falsely suggested that young, healthy people don’t need to be vaccinated against COVID-19. He later walked it back, *calling himself a “$%^& moron” and “not a respected source of information.”*

Well stated Joe...there's no misinformation in that self-assessment....

I'm not trying to be controversial

Hasn’t he had Alex Jones on a few times? Controversial sells and I think he’s aware of that. He’s no idiot. Good marketing.

I heard an interesting take on Rogan’s appeal. He has always attracted the alternative media/conspiracy theory crowd ( he himself was a believer in the faked moon landing crackpottery ) and as their natural hysteria, paranoia and delusions of superiority have rocketed up during the pandemic, he’s capitalized on that.

Good business sense. Keep the money rolling in.

hundreds of scientists, professors and public health experts asked Spotify to remove a Dec. 31 episode from “The Joe Rogan Experience” in which he featured Dr. Robert Malone, an infectious-disease specialist who has been banned from Twitter for spreading COVID-19 misinformation

Why?

Can’t they just counter his information?

Why the need to lose free speech?

These experts think the rest of us aren’t capable of judging differences of opinion?

Scary.

These days, being banned from Twitter is a badge of honour. It's an electronic asylum.

Bill Burr to Joe Rogan (they are good friends from way back):

“I'm not going to sit here with no medical degree, listening to you with no medical degree with an American flag behind you, smoking a cigar acting like we know what's up better than the CDC.”

nakanoguy01

rogan has hosted both pro and anti vax people, so i don't see why people are getting so worked up about this. rogan puts people on air and let's them speak. everyone is free to either disagree or agree with it.

The problem is he platforms misinformation peddlars and many of his 11 million audience aren't able to discern fact from fiction and end up believing that they shouldn't get vaccinated. And some of those people will get sick of Covid and die unnecessarily.

Rogan responded to the fallout on Sunday, saying in a video on Instagram that he was only seeking to have conversations on his podcast with people who have “differing opinions.”

This means he is willingly choosing to present a false balance for popularity and profit, the same could be done for every other thing that is clearly wrong, from people defending a sexual preference towards subjects unable to consent to people that believe some human races as inferior to other.

What is "misinformation" and who defines it?

That is easy, things that have been proven false by the best available science beyond any reasonable doubt. If those things are presented without enough valid data to disprove the scientific consensus then it constitutes misinformation, and if presented with the intention of deceiving people then it constitutes disinformation.

I bet nobody complaining has actually listened to the interviews with the two guests in question

What in the interview do you believe makes the criticism of the false information invalid? did they say "the following information is false but used for entertaining purposes only" or something like that?

rogan has hosted both pro and anti vax people, so i don't see why people are getting so worked up about this.

Because it is still wrong, would you think someone promoting valid investment opportunities and well known frauds trying to scam people next to each other fine? or would you think this would give the scammers a chance to take people's money by giving them the appearance of honesty?

These people aren't happy unless everyone is either agreeing with them or silenced. And what makes them experts on what is fact and falsehood anyhow?

What part of what they are saying made you think they are the authorities that decide what is fact? that is a role that falls completely on the scientific method.

When you try to stop people from speaking in stead of challenging them on an open forum, you become part of the problem, not part of the solution.

When people insist on speaking about things already proven false then there is no problem, the ideas had a chance to challenge and oppose the consensus and failed to do it, there is no point in insisting on them as if they were something new that nobody has disproven yet.

These experts think the rest of us aren’t capable of judging differences of opinion?

The experts thing some of the people will not be able to screen falsehoods being presented as if they were not already debunked, and fall prey of those falsehood thus increasing their risk as well as the risk they represent to others. And they are right.

I just listened to Rogan's response on his channel. He repeated the impressive qualifications of the two guests in question. He also brought up how a number of views that were considered misinformation a few months ago are widely accepted today.

What is "misinformation" and who defines it?

Good question! Most misinformation, by far, comes from official groups and mainstream media, and they are the ones who end up defining what misinformation is.

I just listened to Rogan's response on his channel. He repeated the impressive qualifications of the two guests in question. He also brought up how a number of views that were considered misinformation a few months ago are widely accepted today.

He apologized too....

What is "misinformation" and who defines it?

Good question! Most misinformation, by far, comes from official groups and mainstream media, and they are the ones who end up defining what misinformation is.

And that ladies and gentlemen is a very succinct example of how Trump and the far-right media hate machine keep fleecing the flock...

Good question! Most misinformation, by far, comes from official groups and mainstream media

I don’t know how you quantify that but surely the top-drawer nonsense and mental derangement comes from the alternative media - faked moon landings, Holocaust denial, stolen elections, pizza parlours, Q-Anon etc.

Raw Beer

Good question! Most misinformation, by far, comes from official groups and mainstream media, and they are the ones who end up defining what misinformation is.

The difference between the mainstream media and these guests of Jow, is that the mainstream media may get it wrong, but the will correct themselves later when more is known. That is not misinformation.

Rogan has brought on experts in the medical field who have different views from the tye mainstream narrative about how we should be handling the pandemic. There is nothing controversial about it. We should have all viewpoints put forth so everybody can make educated decisions about how to lead our lives. The experts he has had on his podcasts are far more educated and knowledgeable than any of us in this comment section.

I just listened to Rogan's response on his channel. He repeated the impressive qualifications of the two guests in question. He also brought up how a number of views that were considered misinformation a few months ago are widely accepted today.

He apologized too....

Well, he said he is sorry that Young and Mitchell feel that way. He did not apologize for what he did.

BTW, he started his message by thanking the many who sent their love and support...

*Last year, for example, he falsely suggested that young, healthy people don’t need to be vaccinated against COVID-19. He later walked it back, ****calling himself a “$%^&** moron” and “not a respected source of information.”

If this is true Rogan's followers should follow his example

many of his 11 million audience aren't able to discern fact from fiction and end up believing that they shouldn't get vaccinated. And some of those people will get sick of Covid and die unnecessarily.

So you want people’s freedom taken away from them for their own good, is that what you are saying? And what if those calling the shots in that way make a bad call and get it completely backwards?

This has certainly been known to happen…

Raw Beer

Well, he said he is sorry that Young and Mitchell feel that way. He did not apologize for what he did.

Yeah, he kinda did.

But I understand, Joe isn't trying to undermine anything, but he has no qualifications to push back on what these smart people are say and at the same time, he is platforming them in the middle of a pandemic.

I don't see Joe as the bad party here except for platforming two discredited guests and maybe his own misinformed beliefs. Obviously, Robert Malone and Peter Mccullough used their platform to spread a lot of misinformation.

Now, Joe's platform has always been that we are just talking and I like that. But we are in a pandemic and that talk can cost lives.

It’s clear many don’t know Jack ‘bout Joe. His show — far from being a fount of misinformation, misogyny, and racism as claimed by the msm — features an eclectic mix of extended unhurried chats with interesting people from all walks of life, including: 

David Sinclair, Andrew Huberman, Rhonda Patrick

Steven Pinker, Richard Dawkins, Lex Fridman

Michael Pollan, James Nestor, Sebastian Junger

Daryl Davis, Josh Dubin, Amanda Knox

John Abramson, Edward Snowden, Bernie Sanders

Alex Honnold, Cameron Hanes, Laird Hamilton

Bill Burr, Russel Peters, Dave Chappelle

Reggie Watts, Penn Jillette, Oliver Stone

Rob Kearny, Ben Patrick, Pavel Tsatsouline

Rickson Gracie, George St-Pierre, John Danaher

His show was one of the first to offer such long form conversation where listeners can hear guest discuss ideas in great detail and length. Calls for censoring Joe because of the views expressed by a small handful of guests flies in the face of liberal claims of tolerance and the once traditional liberal value of free speech.