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Rule, Britannia! BBC ditches singalong lyrics amid colonial rethink

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Its way past time to ditch the BBC.

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No they have not ditched it.

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This article has been butchered. Anyone interested in reading the correct version can find it here:

https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/rule-britannia-bbc-play-song-lyrics-concert-72593261

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Those songs are embarrassing. They are not patriotic, they are nationalistic.

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This article has been butchered.

Prolefeed to distract from the dummy in Downing Street and his unelected ventriloquist.

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Good. British (mainly English) jingoism has been a curse on the world for hundreds of years now. Even their flag is rightly known as "The Butcher's Apron"

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@ego

And where they finished off America took over.

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Who cares?

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“I think it’s time we stopped our cringing embarrassment about our history, about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stopped this general fight of self-recrimination and wetness,″ Johnson said. “I wanted to get that off my chest.”

Oh please. They'd have to actually express embarrassment and self-recrimination first. Most Britons don't know their own history as it affected millions negatively.

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Kehinde Andrews is a professional moaner. Boris Johnson is a waste of oxygen.

Trevor Phillips is a man worth listening to.

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Trevor Phillips is right on the money here.

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A statement coming from Boris Johnson, the big clown. He is fuelling nationalism and populism. His Brexit campaign was built on lies and misinformation and yet many people believed him. His government currently has TWO big issues to deal with - Covid and Brexit.

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Trevor Phillips is right on the money here.

He usually is. He can usually be relied on to talk honestly about issues like this as the woke and rightist clowns immediately follow what’s on their hymn sheets.

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The incompetent Tories will still be singing it when they go down with their leaking ship of state after they run onto the reef of Brexit that they are heading directly for.

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Can the British not rejoice in their Britishness if only just once a year?

After all they have done for the world..... spreading manners, politeness, common sense, railways, legal systems, rule of law, parliaments, afternoon tea, crumpets and sandwiches with the crusts cut off. Not to mention cricket!!

Truly the Land of Hope and Glory!

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 Not to mention cricket!!

We owe an apology for that.

I don’t like all this flag-waving, patriotic Rule Britannia crap, but the virtue signaling crowd isn’t an improvement on it.

Maybe we could hold a separate woke Last Night at the Proms with safe spaces.

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After all they have done for the world..... spreading manners, politeness, common sense, railways, legal systems, rule of law, parliaments, afternoon tea, crumpets and sandwiches with the crusts cut off.

You’re being very modest. We all know that afternoon tea is so much better with a selection of Mr Kipling’s exceedingly good cakes.

:-)

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I could just scoff a Battenberg right now.

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Whether this article is accurate or not is irrelevant.

And anyone who claims that those songs are somehow racist just proves how little they understand British culture, which often mocks itself.

One of the points of the proms is to enjoy it. People from all over the world attend and wave their own flags.

If the woke and other pathetic losers can't stand people enjoying themselves, no one is forcing them to watch.

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And anyone who claims that those songs are somehow racist just proves how little they understand British culture, which often mocks itself.

Yep. A rousing ‘God save our gracious team’ at the FA Cup final and a forlorn ‘Land of dope and Tories’ after a Conservative election win.

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Most 'BAME' don't actually seem to care, and it's actually ANTI-slavery as well:

Britons never, never, never shall be slaves.

...

Thee haughty tyrants ne'er shall tame

https://www.songandpraise.org/rule-brittania-lyrics.htm

Good job the Europeans helped end the practice too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWrfjUzYvPo

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My version of the British history: until WWII they raped and plundered half of this world for hundreds of years. After noticing there's nothing to plunder from EU, they decided to leave it.

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Its way past time to ditch the BBC

Be sure and tell that to the thousands of people who rely on the BBC for their wages. The electricians, canteen staff, cleaners, drivers, postrooms, the IT staffers, the supplying companies, the production houses, the sound engineers and camera crews etc.

The Last Night is a cringefest of jingoism and flag waving. It may be watched by millions but is not representative of the proms and prom-goers. I've been to the proms on a few occasions (not Last Night) and it's been brilliant - classic and modern composers. And not a butcher's apron in sight.

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After noticing there's nothing to plunder from EU, they decided to leave it.

Fine with me, they'll always be welcome back. But can they leave the 6 counties for good, please?

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My version of the British history: until WWII they raped and plundered half of this world for hundreds of years. After noticing there's nothing to plunder from EU, they decided to leave it.

Partly true, but I wonder why other notorious colonizers and plunders like the French, Spanish, Portuguese, Belgians etc. didn’t think the same way. The Germans and Italians were a touch aggressive in acquiring new real estate last century.

Europe is a bit of a rogues’ gallery all round.

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The Germans and Italians were a touch aggressive in acquiring new real estate last century.

Seriously masterly example of the under-appreciated and very British art of understatement. Uptick from me.

Personally I always squirm a bit at Rule Britannia, in the way that you're embarrassed when you see your parents making prats of themselves. The word "Rule" isn't open to much of an alternative reading.

Land of Hope and Glory, though, a beautiful tune. My non-British father always used to sing it out as "Land of Labour and Tory" which, back then, was accurate.

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American, Japanese and British imperial history (and American current reality) are linked one respect: the contribution of both good and bad people playing an international game of good cop, bad cop. Many in the British Empire were all about helping, enriching, empowering and including the colonies and their people. And riding on their backs were the bigoted slime nationalists who saw all those not of the British Islands and especially non-English as barely better than livestock. It was a great failing of the decent British people that they did not get the slime under nearly enough control. And so many people were disadvantaged, down-trodden, robbed, slaved, raped and murdered. That being the case, I wonder how anyone can listen to "Rule, Britannia" and not feel a boiling rage, unless of course they are the exact type of nationalist slime that played the bad cop in yesteryear.

BBC should have cut that crap out of the program long ago.

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Many in the British Empire were all about helping, enriching, empowering and including the colonies and their people

How self-entitled. I'm sure most of their colonies would have prefered to be left alone..

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 It was a great failing of the decent British people that they did not get the slime under nearly enough control

I’m sure if you’d been around at the time, you’d have had enlightened 21st century views.

You probably wouldn’t have known about any of the atrocities committed. The majority of the illiterate UK population in the 18th and most of the 19th centuries were fighting off malnutrition and disease. The British elites at the time had perhaps slightly more respect for the British peasants as they did for the people of the colonies.

If you knew anything about British history, you’d know that colonialism was an elitist enterprise. The plebs used as foot soldiers in this carried the uneducated, racist, ignorant views of their time, as did the people being colonized.

You very probably would have held the same uneducated views.

As for the Rule Britannia bollocks, I’ve got no time for it but the professionally outraged woke mob are fantastic recruiters for the nationalistic crap you are railing against.

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