UK stars from Ed Sheeran to Elton John raise alarm over post-Brexit music tours

You are 3rd country now! Stop cherry picking again. Are musicians some kind of different people? Should Canadians, Australians or Japanese musicians get free ride too? These days go online and play. No need permits

Brexit: the gift that keeps on giving.

Roger Daltrey, lead singer of The Who and an outspoken Brexiteer who had previously dismissed concerns about tours after Brexit, was also on the list.

We'll see plenty more of this.

Roger Daltrey, lead singer of The Who and an outspoken Brexiteer

Talk about getting fooled again.

People try to put us down, just because we get around.

Not any more matey! You'll need 10 visas and 10 carnets now. It's what you voted for etc. etc.

If they think that is a problem, I guess the one about the British grandmother heading to Spain having all her sausages seized is the every day persons consequences.

Yep no more just bringing certain food items even for personal use, others with vacation homes are finding out that anything they bring that is to remain in the EU and not returning to the UK may be subject to import duties and VAT.

So now many in the UK will find that it may not have been such a great idea.

My Friend who is an Artisan and a Brexit supporter was just informed that once a certain major artist trade show he attends yearly in France starts up again after the pandemic, he will need to get a Carnet for all his works or pay EU VAT on entering France, seeing this show had accounted for about a quarter of his yearly sales pre pandemic he is upset, I said what did he expect that the UK would leave and still keep all the privileges?

Like the old TV commercial used to say "membership has its privileges".

@Zichi

Part of my business per pandemic was coordinating overseas trade shows for small and medium sized Japanese companies.

The EU Carnet system was such a pain (not to mention the shipping and return shipping costs) compared to Canada and The USA, that it became simpler and cheaper to just rent a cheap warehouse space in the least expensive EU country ship the products in pay the VAT and any duties and leave the stuff there. I would just ship in the few new products once in a while.

So before the shows go there rent a truck pick up whichever client's stuff was needed drive to the show then return it to the warehouse after the show. I guess this will be the go to for the UK now unless they want to navigate the carnet system and risk what was quite common when I was using it, long long long delays at customs and having not product to display on opening day.

Why are they surprised? Why is any UK citizen surprised ? I feel for the Scots.

The UK totally miscalculated on its self importance. Too much self admiration in the mirror.

The reverse troubles will mean The French will eat more German meat instead of English, The Scandinavians more French cheese then UK cheese and so on. The pain for the EU is maybe 5 % of the UK’s problems.

I am still trying to understand why ?

imperial nostalgia?

Actions speak louder than words:

Jacob Rees-Mogg - moves clients' assets to Dublin

James Dyson - moves HQ and own residence to Singapore

James Ratcliffe - shifts domicile to Monaco; chooses France over UK to build car

@Wobot

Yes these big stars are going to have to pay more to tour the EU but they can afford it and can hire people to get all the paperwork, etc... done.

Now they are trying to make it like they are speaking out for the little guys, the musicians just starting to get traction outside the UK and that is valid point, smaller acts will be the ones most affected.

But in reality they are using this point to cover-up the fact they don't like how much it will cost them despite being rich.

Most smaller bands travel very light, often use local roadies and even arrange to rent the needed equipment like amps,speakers, etc.. from local venues.

I worked as a Roady many years ago and only major acts showed up with truck loads of equipment, the vast majority of smaller groups came with just their personal instruments and the rest was rented locally as per specification of the band by either the venue or organiser.

They're all rich and...

Yes, but Taxi for Boris posting the same rant in Craigslist Ipswich aren't.

Really?  didn't musicians tour Europe (and still tour the world) before Brexit?

and is the EU really asking for visas for this kind of thing?

mickelicious:

Jacob Rees-Mogg - typical Etonian type who expects others to eat cake, while he enjoys all the good things in life and has absolutely no idea how common folks live and scrape by. And thinks that somehow the UK is special. Trump was only temporary. Brexit isn't.

Reap it

Pukey2:

It's an infinity engine of unexpected consequences.