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Ukraine filmmakers horrified by 'Top Gun' jet display at Cannes

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Nothing to apologize for. That's what it does to you.

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We feel strongly that anything and everything Russian must be cancelled,

The sense of entitlement is insane with these guys. Imagine wanting to ban movies and people just because they happen to be from a country run by a crazy dictator.

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If are over 35,you were born in the Soviet Union,with a Russian birth certificate

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As much as I support the Ukrainian people, and at risk of being cancelled, the emotional propaganda coming from Ukraine is getting to be so cheesy and blatant….

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You can't blame all citizens of a nation for what their government does. I voted against Brexit and am not responsible for what that clown Johnson does. You can't blame Chinese citizens for anything their government does, as they don't even get a vote.

You can't expect countries to ban fly pasts simply because there are wars taking place. There are wars taking place somewhere all the time.

It's not long since Russia did to areas of Syria what it is now doing to Ukraine and the RotW largely ignored it. Maybe Syrian kids weren't white enough for them. Or maybe they only now want a Cold War. Be pleased you are getting something out of our governments, even if it is because they have their own agenda. We rarely get much out of them.

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The amount of triggering these days from the left is beyond ridiculous.

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"But another member of the Ukrainian panel, Andriy Khalpakhchi of the Kyiv International Film Festival, said there was no such thing as 'good Russians' at the current time."

What about Russian dissidents (about 15,000) sitting in Putin's prisons because they opposed Putin's war?

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The left is starting to sound like the right in the Cold War about ethnic Russians.

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I mean were they really “horrified”?

come on.

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The amount of triggering these days from the left is beyond ridiculous.

What do you mean, "the left"? Are you talking about the Ukrainians? No-one expects objectivity from the citizens of a country that's been invaded. And aren't you one of those who're always talking about Ukrainians as if they were all Neo-Nazis? Left? Right? Make your mind up.

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And for the record, I don't support the banning of the Russian movie. I agree with the notion that we should be able to distinguish the individual citizens of a particular country - even Russia at this time - from the actions of their Government, if those citizens are active in a positive way that doesn't support their government. But that's on a case-by-case basis, and in my opinion this case doesn't warrant exclusion, particularly in the light of this...

"The (Russian) director has been in exile since the invasion and called for an end to the war at his film's premiere on Wednesday."

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So, by "horrified" what they really meant was "baby cry" and by "all Russians should have been banned" what they really meant was "only us matter."

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What do you mean, "the left"?

the only group of people who would try to claim with a straight face to be "horrified" by a display of a movie prop. the only group that would try to politicize something because they got triggered.

liberals, known by the group name, "the left".

this is ridiculous and takes away from legitimate concerns and legitimate outrage.

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Well, yes, PTSD is a very real thing which is why it is necessary to seek support. Attempting to eliminate all possible triggers from one's life is a hopeless task, as is expecting others to participate in eliminating them.

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People are allowed to have PTSD for all sorts of reasons, especially due to living in a war zone recently ... or for 8 yrs.

There are people with PTSD from the 1960s still. They can be triggered by all sorts of visual queues and sounds.

Count yourself lucky that you aren't one of them. It is not a character weakness to be traumatized by war.

There are lots of former "enemies" who cannot get passed previous acts 50 yrs after a war ended. I won't blame any Ukrainian for hating all Russians today or for a few years after the invaders are removed. I just can't come to any other reasonable belief.

It will be up to all Russians to seek forgiveness today and for the next 50 yrs, especially from Ukrainian people.

I don't have any opinion about whether the independent Russian film should have been allowed or not. And the French fighter flyover is something that I'd understand as a trigger, but I lived most of my childhood less than a mile from military flight lines, so I don't even hear planes anymore, unless the entire house is shaking.

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@Blacklabel:

”The Left”

The only people I see quoted in this article are either Ukrainians or the understandably emotional members of a Lithuanian film crew whose director was killed while filming in Ukraine. To describe the reaction to this Top Gun stunt, as you do, as a “Left” reaction is literally reading something into this that isn’t there.

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But another member of the Ukrainian panel, Andriy Khalpakhchi of the Kyiv International Film Festival, said there was no such thing as "good Russians" at the current time.

Guess all those arrested in Russia for protesting against the war & Putin were not Russians. Or are they bad Russians somehow now too? Enough of this generalization nonsense.

"They are in a terrible situation, this war is a catastrophe... For them it's even difficult to hear the Russian language. I can understand that," Serebrennikov said. "But for European culture to cut off Russian culture would be a big mistake and I'm happy the festival chose the right way -- not to work with officials but not to ban an independent Russian film with a sad story from the 19th century," he added.

Words of reason.

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We feel strongly that anything and everything Russian must be cancelled

and

no such thing as "good Russians"

This is basically, hate speech.

And it fits perfectly into the Kremlin's narrative that the west will be happy to destroy Russia and it's people. Such statements, hurt ordinary Russians, but mostly they hurt anyone who opposes the government.

If an ordinary person has to believe and pick a side, which side would they pick, the one who hates their guts or the one who says they will protect them no matter what. When it comes to that, the answer is obvious.

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PTSD is serious and should be taken seriously but it's an isolated, individual case. Offer assistance to the individual but you can't remove all possible triggers from normal life.

And as much as I support Ukraine and its struggle a ban on "anything Russian" is pretty much an application of the very same way of thinking that we are (rightfully) accusing the Russian regime of.

Ans lastly, sadly what's being described here has already been made a reality by the Osaka government (not sure whether prefectural or municipal). They issued a directive with a large sweep of bans to be acted on at any public events. According to that banned are: any depiction of fighting or war, depiction of any "modern" (whatever that means) military hardware, soldiers etc., depiction of anything with a Russian flag, brand or insignia.

This has come to light in a circulation to any exhibitors, vendors or companies participating at forthcoming scale model event "Osaka Modeller's Fest" which is held at ATC and hosted by the Osaka municipality. This directive pretty much kills the event for many participants and visitors. The question is how far they are taking this "ban" - does it include fine art? Do Osaka museums now have to cover up any artwork depicting scenes of fighting or war? What about cinemas? The above mentioned "Top Gun II" will have all aircraft scenes edited out when shown in Osaka cinemas?

Totally bonkers and I really hope this misguided thinking will not spread. Again, full support for the Ukrainean cause, empathy and respect for the people but don't throw reason overboard.

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possibly french need to change their flag as for some UA "actors" resembles russian one,wondering what Serbia,Slovakia and Slovenija have to do to "please them" as well...

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In France. French Air Force. Promoting a film about Jets. Non issue I think.

Calls to ban all Russian content...If it's not propaganda, and is just cultural art; I don't think that's a good idea.

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the only group of people who would try to claim with a straight face to be "horrified" by a display of a movie prop. 

The only person claiming that is you. Read the article.

PTSD attack from fighter jets screaming over head is not being triggered by a ‘movie prop’.

Read.

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The amount of triggering these days from the left is beyond ridiculous.

Copy pasted non sequitors that do not make a bit of sense.

The position on the alt-right supporting Russia and Putin was that Ukrainians were Nazis.

So now they are triggered..leftists?

This article is exaggerated as to the reaction of the Ukrainian filmmakers but the stock rightist comments are worse.

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Their understandable hatred for the people trying to destroy and conquer their country is forgiveable, if not strictly logical.

When I was younger I witnessed extreme hatred for Japanese among some older Americans. I can now understand where their hatred came from, but I believe that to condemn an entire people for the actions of some of the people is not logical, moral, or productive.

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The Fu,you know hating based on race ,color and creed an national origin,is against statutory law,if hating based on their race ,Black people would still be justified hating White people

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We feel strongly that anything and everything Russian must be cancelled

That is the most stupid thing I've heard so far!

Putin is not Russia, only Putin is responsible for what is happening. And just like in US where 30% still think Trump is the real president, you will have the same in Russia where 30% will believe every word Putin says...

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Jean,these Ukrainain do not deal with their own racism,Black African that fled Ukraine,were subjective too racism as they tried to flee on train,were removed and some let not too board,too ignorant too realize a Black man head the defense department,that is giving them military support

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@Yrral SPOT ON! Very disturbing situation and no one not even the media wanted to address that problem. Yet and still they are asking the world for help but also subjecting other to racism at the same time.

Jean,these Ukrainain do not deal with their own racism,Black African that fled Ukraine,were subjective too racism as they tried to flee on train,were removed and some let not too board,too ignorant too realize a Black man head the defense department,that is giving them military support

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The Fu,you know hating based on race ,color and creed an national origin,is against statutory law,if hating based on their race ,Black people would still be justified hating White people

There aren't any laws against hating anyone or anything. I suspect your words are imprecise and convey the wrong meaning.

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The Ukraine is not France

Of course, coming from a war zone to a festival where people are enjoying themselves is going to be a psychological shock but the Ukrainians did get the movie preview?

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