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Elvis is here
That's quite shocking.
This could be a one-off or suggest a certain lack of social empathy regarding groping in general.
I hope it's the former as I have high moral standards you see.
dagon
Not only in Japan and Osaka, but this has happened numerous times on DJ Soda's world tours. She has a brand image and maybe she needs to work out a better security arrangement at the venues.
sakurasuki
This is Japan, famous entertainment figure being stalked and sometimes being victim of violance
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2017/02/28/national/crime-legal/stalker-gets-14-year-prison-term-stabbing-pop-idol/
stormcrow
If she was my daughter dressed in skimpy clothes, I’d tell her not to jump into a crowd of people. This could’ve happened anywhere.
girl_in_tokyo
stormcrowToday 07:34 am JST
As the woman said, no matter what she is wearing there is no excuse for perpetrating sexual violence upon a woman. Instead of shaming women and blaming them for the man's actions, you should be supporting women and advocating for harsher punishments for male sexual violence.
girl_in_tokyo
Groping has been a serious problem at music venues for a very very long time, and it's about time it was taken more seriously. I hope they find the men who did this and prosecute them for sexual assault.
餓死鬼
And woman.
“...unidentified individuals, including a woman, who she said touched and grabbed her breasts when she descended the stage to interact with fans at a music festival in Sennan”
Elvis is here
And female sexual violence, as clearly documented in the article.
I once had my "Crown Jewels" groped as a fumbled pass by a woman in my 20s. I thought it was was very inappropriate and at the time? wondered if a man would have been able to get away with it.
girl_in_tokyo
It is a sign of the problem when men must jump in to point out that a sinlge woman was involved when the real issue at hand is male sexual violence towards women.
Women don't grab women for sexual pleasure, or because they feel sexually entitled to their body. While what this one lone woman did was wrong, it's an entirely different issue.
And I think you know that. But if you don't? Again, a sign of the problem is men who resist the very notion that the issue of sexual violence against women is a male one.
Don't blame women for what men are responsible for.
餓死鬼
Assuming random internet posters are men? You are right in my case, though I don’t know about Elvis.
Are you saying women don’t commit sexual assault? Based on...?
I feel like having a rational discussion with you might be a little difficult.
Elvis is here
It seems fair enough to me to point out the role-reversal (you managed to avoid it BTW) considering that it is mentioned twice in the article as the victim herself was shocked enough to report it.
Considering that she did not feel the need to brush the female sexual assault off or down play it as you are doing suggests you are pushing an unbalanced agenda. People are responsible for their own crimes as you well know.
quercetum
Japan has a developed groping culture. Not surprising.
shogun36
more power to you!
ahhh yes Japan, keeping it classy.
let’s hope she never does a show in India. That would be at least ten times worse.
Moonraker
In my experience, some women seem curious about the breasts of other women, especially those of, let's say, ample magnitude. Some even ask. Perhaps the gropers are not so well endowed or just want to know if the target has false ones. A crowded situation makes for an ideal opportunity to get a grope in too.
Capuchin
So if a man gropes a woman it's sexual assault but if a woman does it it's something else?
The article and the victim herself does state that there was a woman who sexually assaulted her.
You called for the perpetrators to be prosecuted. Under your unique double standards what should the woman be prosecuted for? If at all?
Seesaw7
This groping culture has been going on for ages. From crowded trains to walking the streets in Kyoto. It's all so familiar. And the Police doesn't do anything about it.
stormcrow
@girl_in_tokyo
You misunderstood what I said. I said I would tell her not to jump into a crowd of people with little on. Did I say it was OK to assault her? No way! I would say that more out of a sense of concern. Wouldn’t you do the same?
girl_in_tokyo
餓死鬼Today 08:21 am JST
I have been in this forum for ages, and I know which of you are men and which are women, or else have a pretty good idea.
I said:
And then you said:
Clearly, I did not say women don't ever commit sexual assault. And you accuse ME of exaggerating, and wonder if you can have a rational discussion? Yeah, nah.
girl_in_tokyo
Elvis is hereToday 08:28 am JST
I didn't mention it because it was not pertinent to the discussion of male on female sexual violence.
It is also quite safe to say that women don't sexually assault other women for reasons of the misogynist view that they are entitled to womens' bodies.
I clearly did not brush off or downplay female on female sexual assault. It simply is not the issue here, for reasons I stated above.
Paustovsky
See, you started well...
... then you descend into a nasty rant.
girl_in_tokyo
Tony KakuToday 09:46 am JST
It is not a stereotype that straight men statistically commit the majority of the acts of sexual violence against women. It is a fact.
Again, don't blame women for the acts of sexual violence that men freely and consciously and with purpose commit against women.
girl_in_tokyo
CapuchinToday 09:37 am JST
No. I said: "Women don't grab women for sexual pleasure, or because they feel sexually entitled to their body. While what this one lone woman did was wrong, it's an entirely different issue."
girl_in_tokyo
stormcrowToday 10:13 am JST
I understand. That's fine.
As for myself, I would not tell my adult daughter not to do something since by then she would know what she is and is not okay with, is or is not ready for, and can or can't handle. Telling an adult woman "don't do that" is condescending.
It reminds me of the scenes in the frist Wonder Woman where the love interest character keeps yelling, "Diana, don't!!" and Diana does what the hell Diana wants and kicks butt in the process.
Maybe stop thinking of women as unable to take care of themselves.
BakabonPapa
This kind of thing was a major problem at Woodstock '99 - women in the crowd getting groped and grabbed. When the conditions are right, someone's going to go for it. There's always someone.
Jind
Groping? It's the Japanese way. Happens all the time on trains and close spaces.
girl_in_tokyo
fatrainfallingintheforestToday 08:35 am JST
I winder how many times I will have to say "that is not what I said" before you stop accusing me of saying it.
stormcrow
Anthony Kiedis of the RHCP wrote a memoir called ‘Scar Tissue’. In it he describes how a girl in the audience performed relationships on him when he dived into the audience. In other words, guys can be victims too.
餓死鬼
?
When did I do that?
Anyway, you seem absolutely certain the woman mentioned in the article didn’t grope for sexual pleasure or because she felt sexually entitled to the DJ’s body. What is the reasoning behind your certainty (did you ask the woman herself?) and why do you think she did what she did?
stormcrow
Correction….
relationships = oral six
Capuchin
So why do women sexually assault women? I'm curious.
opheliajadefeldt
DJ Soda is a performer and a very beautiful one, but that does not excuse or give the right to any one to grope her, regardless of what she is wearing. All stage bands wear stage outfits to stand out, it is part of their act, from Blackpink to BST and that is what they do, it would look very strange if all pop artists came on stage in their normal street clothes. As for groping, this happened to me once at Uni at a dance night, I am not that pretty nor am I blessed with a great body, I am only 157cm tall and ultra thin, oh, and gay, but it still happened, I think the boys thought it would be a great joke, until one of the bigger girls with me showed him the error of his ways by raising her knee.....cough! One good thing tho, he stopped me when I was leaving and was deeply apologetic.
Quo Primum
And don't blame all men for what some men are responsible for.
I wouldn't be caught dead at a DJ Soda performance or any performance like it. But if I was there, I wouldn't touch her. I have too much respect for people and for sexual morality than to do that.
Your tone, no offence, seems to be that men in general are responsible for inappropriate physical/sexual contact committed by men ... whereas when women do it, to you it just seems like an isolated incident that you're pretty willing to wave off.
Touching people inappropriately is always wrong no matter who commits it against whom.
I think that's a simple concept that everyone, be they hard-core vocal feminists or hard-core social conservatives, can easily get on board with.
virusrex
I really hope this gets viral and becomes the image of Japan for a few weeks, maybe then society will begin to change.
Countless women are victimized in the country by sexual violence, but not being famous the plea to stop the situation is much more easily ignored. Maybe if Japan is now known also as the place where famous artists get groped when getting close to the public the added pressure can finally make people in general do something about this problem.
Unfortunately this is an outcome too good to be realistically expected.
Zeram1
Her problem is that she didn’t expect it, in the country where women are sex objects and not respected. I guess that the Koreans haven’t gotten around to stealing this misogynistic attitude and behavior from Japanese as of yet.
garypen
Cosplayers get this crap here all the time, too.
girl_in_tokyo
Quo PrimumToday 12:48 pm JST
I have not ever blamed all men for what some men are responsible for.
No, I don't blame all men for for all sexual assaults committed by men. But I do very often point out that there are men who, while they do not themselves commit sexual assault, nevertheless contribute to the culture of sexual assault by victim-blaming, or downplaying sexual assault, or automatically calling women liars when women report sexual assault. That tends to make those men mad because they like to see themselves as nice guys when they are anything but.
I definitely agree.
JRO
Not really surprising, Clubs etc in Japan is basically a anything goes zone. seems like men and women quietly agrees on that what ever happens in there doesn't matter. A normal night at the club in Japan would have police coming and going the whole night in my home country.
girl_in_tokyo
CapuchinToday 11:15 am JST
A good question and not one that is easy to answer in one post. But roughly, I'd say that women are just as susceptible to the thrill of power that men are, and when a crowd gets out of control people will do things that they normally would not do. And yes, in this case, I'd imagine that some of these men who groped the DJ are not the kind of guys who would normally grope a woman.
In addition, it is well-known that some women are so afraid of being a victim themselves that they will take part in victim-blaming other women or even aiding men in sexual assault. There are, as you probably know, numerous famous cases where women have aided their male partners in victimizing other women.
But it's complicated, so if you really want a good, comprehensive answer I'd suggest reading up on it more widely.
mountainpear
@Zeram1 From what I've heard Korea is even worse!
Been groped in my own country by both sexes, followed by men in cars, even as an elementary school student. Had a man drive next to me and my friend while he masturbated in his car etc. Been groped and sexually harassed in China twice. But have never been harassed even once since I came to Japan. Maybe past my sell by date! Have heard it happening to others though.
girl_in_tokyo
餓死鬼Today 11:02 am JST
I'm not absolutely certain of anything, since I was not there and I don't know these people. But while it's certainly possible that there are women who get a sexual thrill out of sexually assaulting other women, or that they feel somehow entitled to womens' bodies in the way that some men do, it's far more likely the motivation here was not that, since those phenomena are more rare in women than in men. I think it's more likely all those involved (including men) got caught up in the moment and it spiraled out of control.
eug145
This is totally unacceptable.
garypen
@girl-in-tokyo
I'm normally with you 100%. But, your unwillingness to admit your mistake has turned this comment thread into a needless back-and-forth, and probably alienated many men who would otherwise be on your side.
The fact is, when you said "I hope they find the men who did this and prosecute them for sexual assault", you neglected to mention that a woman was also among those responsible. And, when your error was pointed out to you, instead of simply apologizing and correcting your statement, you became defensive and argumentative.
All you had to do was admit your mistake and correct the statement. You could have also pointed out the tremendous disparity between sexual assaults committed by men vs women. But, only after correcting your original statement. I guarantee the response and tone would have been much different, if so.
(Please don't take this as "mansplaining". I'm simply pointing out the way it looks from a usual ally.)
Nihon Tora
I'd probably agree with that conclusion, but I observe that you only came to it once you started considering the woman's reason for taking part. When it comes to the actions of men, you seem to have very black and white, strident opinions, but as soon as you consider women, suddenly it's all nuance and shades of grey. That dichotomy is probably the reason your posts don't seem to have gone down too well in this particular thread.
dagon
This is very cisgendered, and the PDA between my lesbian aunt and her bride at their wedding would speak very much to the opposite.
Again, this is not the first occurrence.
https://www.dimsumdaily.hk/dj-soda-allegedly-groped-by-local-man-during-thai-songkran-festival-fans-express-displeasure/
MiuraAnjin
@garypen
You are not alone.
@girl_in_tokyo
I too suspect "all those involved (including men) got caught up in the moment and it spiraled out of control."
This assault was not about sexual pleasure.
WA4TKG
Frankly, this should come as NO surprise whatsoever.
You need only search Female English Teacher Stories in Korea to see why
(use your own search terminology)
girl_in_tokyo
garypenToday 04:53 pm JST
@girl-in-tokyo
Not sure what mistake you think I've made?
I honestly didn't even notice that the article stated women were involved, and by the time someone pointed it out I didn't feel it was relevant to the particular comments I was addressing. I still don't, since what most of commenters wanted to do was to try to nitpick my comment (as per usual) so they could accuse me of being a misandrist/man-hating whatever, also as usual.
Those here who downvote me and argue with me, downvote me and argue with me no matter what I say even when it is a perfectly normal/reasonable response that is in accordance with what others are also saying.
I am more than reasonable (most of the time) and when I change my mind during the course of a discussion I say so forthrightly. In this case, I still don't see any of my comments being "wrong" - I maintain that I was addressing the topic of men groping women. I did later address the topic of women groping women - in a way that I hope made it clear that I don't condone that behavior.
girl_in_tokyo
dagonToday 06:12 pm JST
Yep, very cisgendered since we were not in fact talking about lesbian/bisexual women groping their bride/wife/gf.
FYI I did say later that there likely are times when a woman might get a sexual thrill out of groping another woman, but that it is a phenomena that is rare, by which I mean the situation would be a very specific one.
girl_in_tokyo
Nihon ToraToday 05:36 pm JST
I actually had that thought myself. I had to have a think though it again in order to get my head round the idea and come to the conclusion that I finally did.
I will also say that since we don't know exactly who or what started the cascade of groping, we can't say for sure whether it was a man or a woman or what their motivation was. But I will also say that men groping women is pretty black and white the vast majority of the time.
girl_in_tokyo
Also -
As I have said on MANY occasions, I don't hate men as a whole.
N. Knight
Victim blaming.
dagon
Not to belabor the point, but if you have ever been to a lesbian club or event you will find lesbian women also cross boundaries and engage in physical contact with women outside of a relationship
Especially in a club setting and when intoxicants are involved.
miss_oikawa
This is ludicrous.
She jumped into a crowd. People touched her. What a surprise. Has anyone here been to a gig.
Being touched and grabbed does not equal sexual assault.
Snuggles
Unfortunately no picture accompanying this article, but if you see her clothing, then you would not be surprised.
virusrex
According to her this do not happen when she takes the same actions in other places, meaning is perfectly possible for the public to be close to her without groping anything, there is no justification.
It should be surprising even if she was nude, because nobody has the right to grope anybody else no matter what they are wearing.
What makes this even not surprising is the huge number of incidents of sexual violence that happen in the country, making these crimes unfortunately anything but unusual.
miss_oikawa
You obviously have never been to a gig, or she's never performed outside Seoul. It's common at gigs but doesn't mean it's assault. It's people wanting to grab a piece of an idol, literally and metaphorically.
John
“My body is mine, not someone else's. I like to wear revealing clothes and I will continue to wear them,"
can i also say the same and wear revealing clothes? Or Would it be considered insanity? The point is that some common sense should be applied for how much revealing is someone wearing.
miss_oikawa
@John
Exactly. I used to love it when I would go dancing, take my top off and girls would have their hands all over my chest. But that isn't even the point, like you say it's a pretty logical conclusion in the situation that if one removes their clothing and approaches other people, those people might think it's acceptable or even an invitation to touch them, and not even in a sexual way. It's as bizarre as walking outside naked and then shouting at others when they dare to look at you.
Samit Basu
This was a culture shock for DJSoda, since she's Korean and and something like this almost never happens in Korea, heck it's a crime to take photo of women in swimsuits at the beach without her explicit consent in Korea, I am not talking about upskirt stuff but just plain street photo as the result of Korea's world famous feminist movement.
This is the reason why young men under 30 voted for Yoon the last election because they were sick and tired of being oppressed by women and Lee who promoted women's rights and equality. Of course they came to their senses and are now voting for the Democratic party like any other age block.
But the point is that groping almost never happens in public in Korea unless it's by a drunk who quickly lands in jail.
GillislowTier
Of course the internet blamed her clothing. Her clothing took control of their synapses and made them grope her.
Crazy how defensive Japanese internet gets when they get accused... and caught red handed on camera no less, that it was somehow her fault. Even going far enough to search through her various appearances to try to contradict this incident. Japan still can't handle sexual assault acusations like adults... Trying to use what about isms instead of a simple, "yeah go after the criminals!" like a normal person.
smithinjapan
"In response to some users who blamed her for wearing skimpy clothes..."
Ah, the usual rapists' defense. Unfortunately, it often works with men in power handing down judgements, and with a South Korean perfomer being groped by Japanese? whew... I can already see no one being punished as the judge says, "We understand the people are guilty, but we cannot find them guilty. The defendent will, however, receive ¥20,000 compensation for her suffering as we realize this was a terrible act that cannot be forgiven and may damage the entertainment industry".
I mean, come on... what is Japan's leading entertainment industry for singers/actors? Johnny's. How much did he suffer in the end for what he did? What do you think these people will get, honestly?
Capuchin
That would be the mistake.
I agree with Garypen. You're really not doing yourself any favours. Just admit you either didn't read the article properly, jumped to conclusions or simply let your personal biases and agenda override the article being commenting.
You are absolutely right when you say that the majority of sexual assaults are carried out by men but then when confronted with the fact that in this case it was a women you then claim that women sexually assaulting someone is not the same as when men do it and then claim that sexual assault by women has nothing to do with the article.
I honestly don't get it. If anything you're doing a great disservice to any valid points you're trying to make.
Wesley
And how do we know the gropers were actually Japanese?
What with so many students coming here from nearby Asian countries.
smithinjapan
Capuchin: "Just admit you either didn't read the article properly, jumped to conclusions or simply let your personal biases and agenda override the article being commenting."
But she has already resorted to the "You're all against me!" argument when she said as much.
Wesley: "And how do we know the gropers were actually Japanese?"
Oh, my sweet lord. And here they come!
virusrex
If an artists have performed without problems for more than a decade in several countries of Asia and Europe only to get groped for the first time in Japan then the problem is not the artist or "gigs" in general but the place where the assault happened.
You thinking otherwise indicates more about the type of events you attend than about her claim. Even if it seems hard for you to accept it is perfectly possible and even common for artists to mix with their public without being groped.
virusrex
Any source for this claim? it is not believable that one event of this magnitude, that includes many different artists was attended exclusively by Koreans.
Redemption
Misogyny by women against women.
girl_in_tokyo
Capuchin Aug. 16 11:38 pm JST
I already said that I didn't read the article properly and that once I understood what had happened, I changed my mind and explained why. I thought that was clear.
Every single time sexual assault is discussed in this comment section I'm accused of having a bias and an agenda.
And the reason I get these accusations is because I talk back to the posters who, each and every time, accuse the female victim of lying about sexual assault, lying for attention, money, or LOLs, and then victim-blame her, calling her stupid, careless, or even worse. This even happens even when the victim is a teenage girl who was kidnapped raped by an older man, and there is never any real evidence that the female victim is lying. And these posters never back down, never admit they may be wrong, never change their minds though discussion even when facts are presented to them - so tell me again exactly who has a bias and an agenda?
The clear bias against female victims of sexual assault is well and truly disgusting, yet barely anyone says a word to the posters doing it, much less accuses them of bias or of having an agenda.
So it does not surprise me at all that when I misread something and though discussion come to a new conclusion,. and then say so, I'm treated as if I'm the bad guy. Yeah, nah.
"not doing myself any favors" do you think I care what the lot of you think of me, when you behave this way? Take a wild guess at my level of concern here.
With respect, that is not what I meant.
What I meant was that I was not addressing the fact that women joined in the groping because at the time I thought it was a separate issue, and at the time I wrote it that was what I honestly believed. And since then, I have changed my mind and addressed the issue. I thought that was clear.
girl_in_tokyo
miss_oikawaAug. 16 08:48 pm JST
She did not "remove her clothing".
She also did not enjoy what was happening to her.
She also did not give her consent.
Are you going to back off this contention, or do you honestly believe that people deserve to be groped against their will?
girl_in_tokyo
dagonAug. 16 08:09 pm JST
I'm bisexual and have been to many, many women-only events.
It seems that you don't understand the difference between a club environment where women go to meet other women and invite one another to consenually touch, and a club enviornment where a DJ is groped against her will by a crowd when she least expected it to happen.
girl_in_tokyo
miss_oikawaAug. 16 08:14 pm JST
What is ludicrous is that you misrepresent what actually happened in order to downplay sexual assault.
She said she was behind a security fence and came close to the fence to meet with fans. The fans then reached across the fence to grope her violently. She was not "touched and grabbed" in the usual way that stars might expect fans to touch and grab them, e.g., grabbing her outstretched hand or arm. Instead they grabbed her breasts.
And, as she did not consent to, nor did she expect, to have her breasts violently groped, it was not consensual. That makes it sexual assault.
kwatt
There are a lot of sexual molesters who try to touch the body of women often in Japan, especially in trains/buses. Audiences/her fans were very exciting at that time about her performance and her half naked body. She should have kept proper distance from her exciting fans. I wonder Soda or her manager did not think her action was very dangerous.
dagon
DJ Soda has been molested numerous times at multiple venues around the world, usually by males, and it is wrong.
My point was that non-consensual contact also occurs in the lesbian context, which is often observable in the club setting.
virusrex
According to the article she had "never ever experienced anything like this" in a decade of performing. Which means it can be done safely in many countries around the world, apparently not in Japan.
Redemption
This shall be a federal case!
kwatt
I think any larger exciting crowd is kanda dangerous. Any famous/important people keep proper distance. If Soda is very famous performer in the world, she should have kept distance even if it never happend to her before. Probably she learned something now. She might be lucky. If a crazy fan stabbed her in crowd, she would have died there.
girl_in_tokyo
dagonToday 08:42 am JST
She stated this had never happened to her before.
And .... ?? Why do you feel this needs to be brought up, as if I didn't know?
dagon
Girl in Tokyo and virusrex, as a former DJ myself this is not the first time, the statement may be an misinterpretation but she has called out harassers frequently.
https://www.dimsumdaily.hk/dj-soda-allegedly-groped-by-local-man-during-thai-songkran-festival-fans-express-displeasure/
https://nextshark.com/dj-soda-harassed
Stephen Chin
What? Grabbed? In Japan? OMG!
virusrex
Your first reference is about a man grabbing her arm without her complaining about it.
The second is about another DJ making vulgar comments about her.
None of those events could be represented as similar to what happened this time. There is a huge difference between touching her in the arm in a way that she did not find negative and groping her and making her complain about it. Your personal occupation is not an argument that can refute her claims either.
dagon
Not refuting her claims but the fact remains she has been involved in cases of harassment. To what degree is her own interpretation.
virusrex
The main point is that she was NOT involved in something like what happened, so claiming it was not the first time as she said ends up being invalid unless you can actually provide evidence of the contrary.
She did not say she has never been touched in a way she felt appropiate.
She did not say she was never harassed verbally.
She said this had never happened to her, you have not proved otherwise as you claimed.
Redemption
Look but don't touch!
cuddly
TryHard Japan, the organizer of the event, on Tuesday released a statement on its official Instagram account condemning the "criminal acts," saying it intended to seek damages and file complaints against the individuals involved.
At this stage, no criminal charges have been filed and no criminal complaint has been made.
"While providing maximum support to DJ Soda, who was victimized, we intend to identify the individuals responsible for this despicable crime and take legal measures, both civil and criminal," the company wrote.
Japanese police should be contacted so they can try and identify the suspects who committed the alleged acts.
DJ Soda in her posts included photos of fans reaching across security fencing and appearing to touch her arms and chest. In the commotion, she said, it was a woman who grabbed her breasts harder than any of the other festivalgoers.
DJ Soda also got into a highly publicized dispute with American Airlines, because of obscenity laced pants she was wearing when trying to board a flight.
She doesn't seem to mind the publicity.
John
Koreans are over exaggerating japanese woman’s friendly touch. If your body is yours, please keep it to yourself and don’t reveal your body in front of a crowd. Even if it was a man who touched her, there is no crime. It’s normal in the situation to assume she wants to be touched when she gets close to other people without properly covering up her body. I would assume the same.
dagon
Thanks for the highlighting and let me counter your claim in this case like Bill Clinton though I am personally not in any way involved.
If you want to parse my assertion that harassment had happened before; but in Japan at a music event in Osaka, by a mob composed of men and women,that degree of physical contact had never happened before to the personage known as DJ Soda then I suppose then that would be true in her assertion.
The fact is harassment claims are a part of her social media feed and if you delve into it is apparent.
It does not take away from the circumstances of this particular instance.
virusrex
You quoted my comment saying "this is not the first time", then referenced things very different from what happened now, there is no rational way to interpret being groped by the public as being the same as being touched appropriately and without causing her any discomfort, much less being harassed verbally. That is simply not the same, which do not require being exactly the same in every single detail. It simply require for the supposed previous examples to be of the same kind of abuse, which they were not.
She never said this was her first experience with harassment (or being touched) she is obviously making a reference to this specific kind of sexual violence.
Paul
She seems to be doing her best to attract men's attention and using her figure as part of the show.
Blacksamurai
Can't believe a female poster here blames men for the assault on DJ Soda when a woman specifically groped her. That takes some real twisted logic. Sexual assault is sexual assault. Stop using the excuse of 'exceptionalism', heard it for years 'Oh women don't do that'.
Yes they do although it obviously occurs less than male instances. With female 'advocate' friends like this, it's clear somebody has a lot of growing up to do as well as a long hard look at their lack of moral honesty.
Redtail Swift
This has a lot to do with what she was wearing. She likes to be revealing.
Look at this situation. Even Japantoday wouldn't post a picture of what she was wearing.
I rest my case. You know it's true. Go to work and set your desktop wallpaper to DJ Soda.
girl_in_tokyo
JohnToday 01:09 pm JST
Grabbing someone's breast, hard, is a "friendly touch"?
Are you saying that if someone wears revealing clothes, then their body becomes, well, public property? Does this mean that I can go to the beach and grab the crotch of any attractive man I see? Hm.
You are saying that when a woman wears revealing clothes, it is safe to assume she wants to be touched by anyone and everyone.
Well, as a woman if a man touches me without my permission, I take that as an invitation that he wants me to give him a swift and heavy kick to the groin. You know, a "friendly touch".
girl_in_tokyo
Redtail SwiftToday 03:44 pm JST
So if a woman wears revealing clothes, it means she deserves to be sexually assaulted?
What if a man wears revealing clothing? Would it then be okay to sexually assault him?
Most of the major outlets had no issues with posting pics because what she was wearing was actually not that revealing. One would see more than that on the beach.
You don't have "a case." You have misogynistic ramblings.
girl_in_tokyo
BlacksamuraiToday 03:43 pm JST
I did not say that.
I agree with this.
When someone must misrepresent what another person has said, that means that person needs to take a hard look at their lack of moral honesty.
girl_in_tokyo
PaulToday 02:02 pm JST
Are you implying that this makes her deserving of sexual assault?
Someone sure lacks moral standards - and I'm not talking about DJ Soda.