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Andean farmers use age-old technique amid climate change

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By Juan Carlos Cisneros and Carlos Mandujano

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We don't give enough credit to so-called primitive peoples. I remember reading an article in Scientific American magazine about 50 years ago regarding techniques used by farmers in Northern Africa, along the Mediterranean coast, thousands of years ago, and the methods they used to conserve and use the little rainfall in the area.

In another article, an author discussed and showed pictures of how the Romans of two thousand years ago were able to cope with the brutal summers in North Africa, by digging underground and using making vast rooms there, protected from the heat and sun up above.

In a different publication there was a description of Bronze Age plumbing from 1650 BC Crete. Archeologists have discovered instances of the Cretans using thermal springs in some of the areas where they lived to bring hot water into their houses via clay pipes. So, they had both hot and cold running water in some of their houses, many thousands of years ago, something which we "moderns" did not reinvent until recently. Hot water heaters were not available in the USA until the end of the 19th century. The hot water heater was patented in this country in 1897, by a Norwegian immigrant.

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1glennToday  09:51 am JST

We don't give enough credit to so-called primitive peoples. I remember reading an article in Scientific American magazine about 50 years ago regarding techniques used by farmers in Northern Africa, along the Mediterranean coast, thousands of years ago, and the methods they used to conserve and use the little rainfall in the area.

When I was in school we were told that North America was a total wilderness full of dumbbutt primitive savages. I visited the Qallah Cherokee Reserve in North Carolina, in the Smoky Mts. You got to see the intricate trap devices used to snare bears for food and utility use. Another tourist asked about a log cabin at the sight - that's what the Cherokee lived it. I learned later about the huge confederations that spanned the continent and the sciences and agricultural innovations they had. The Anasazi, Paiutes and others build solar calendars and had extensive irrigation the SW desert areas. The Moundbuilders (Adena, Hopewell, Ft. Ancient) had extensive trade networks and the mound complexes were used for calendar purposes based on heavenly body alignments to provide agricultural timing and practices.

My 7th grade state history class was a joke. Our teacher was a screaming shrew who didn't like questions from students. She just said, 'Moundbuilders, duuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhh....'

A huge calendar complex in my home state built by the Hopewell people just got designated as a World Heritage sight by UNESCO last year.

Gee, ma. These 'dumb (American) Indians/Native Americans' weren't so dumb after all! And that shrew 7th grade social studies 'teacher' who taught us our state history was just a loudmouth dummy too.

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The farmers are struggling to adapt to the climate change. However, it is impossible to adapt to the rapid warming up of the planet. The only thing to do is to stop the greenhouse process.

Wrong, yes we can adapt to climate change and will have to if we are to survive, but that is not mutually exclusive to working to stop our climate changing emissions and help the return to the natural balance.

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Starpunk, sounds like your teacher wasn’t fit to hold the position, luckily sounds like you have gone on to teach yourself far more than she could.

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Pretty random story. It looks nice though.

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englisc aspyrgendFeb. 17  08:02 pm JST

NB

The farmers are struggling to adapt to the climate change. However, it is impossible to adapt to the rapid warming up of the planet. The only thing to do is to stop the greenhouse process.

Wrong, yes we can adapt to climate change and will have to if we are to survive, but that is not mutually exclusive to working to stop our climate changing emissions and help the return to the natural balance.

There was a climate change in a small scale (a 'Little Ice Age') during the first millennium AD, as well as a bubonic plague endemic ravaging Europe, Asia and parts of Africa. That kept the Norsemen who already explored North America from making a bigger presence there. Not to mention, sailing around Greenland and through the Arctic Ocean is just plain tough, it still is even today.

Then about 1500 years later the non-hero Cristobol Colon sailed to the 'New World' and started spoiling the party with his greedy genocidal bullcrap. And he got credited and lauded for it all and we got spoon-fed in school about his 'heroism' and 'wit'. And yes, we were told that he was the first to postulate that the Earth is a round planet too, while the Greeks, Egyptians, Chinese, whoever of ancient times already knew that. More crap posing as 'history'.

englisc aspyrgendFeb. 17  08:04 pm JST

Starpunk, sounds like your teacher wasn’t fit to hold the position, luckily sounds like you have gone on to teach yourself far more than she could.

Middle school sucked, it was a hell for me for various reasons I won't list here. Whenever that teacher was sick and a substitute teacher announced it, that whole class cheered 'Yaaayyyy!!!!' and applauded. She was a loudmouth with a snooty/snotty bullying disposition, a female Donald trump.

When I entered the service after HS and college later on, it took me to a lot of fun, funny, funky places and I got to see and meet with all kinds of people. In the military and college you will anyway. I went out exploring and checking out cultural and historical sights and events because the opportunities were there. You can learn a lot from all that - you see, ask, witness, visit, experience, observe without even intending or trying to. That gives you strength through knowledge. Knowledge is Freedom.

And that's why I don't now and never have listened to these media chumps and losers from the left or the right on AM mayhem radio or podcasts. What do any of them know? One example here.

When Rubbish Limberger died two years ago I read that he had been at his 'job' on the air since he was 16 years old. And he obviously never matured a day past that age. Do I need to say more?

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Indigenous farming communities are Wisdom Banks.

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The farmers are struggling to adapt to the climate change. However, it is impossible to adapt to the rapid warming up of the planet. The only thing to do is to stop the greenhouse process.

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