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Even frozen Antarctica is being walloped by climate extremes, scientists find

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By MELINA WALLING

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“We've been saying this for 30 years,” said Ted Scambos, an ice scientist at the University of Colorado whose paper from 2000 was cited in Siegert and Hogg's article. “I'm not surprised, I'm disappointed. I wish we were taking action faster."

And people still get surprised when scientists get involved in activism against climate change. Decades of proving the risks scientifically just for some people with hidden interests being able to mislead a lot of the public to believe there is nothing to fear or nothing to do against it.

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Even frozen Antarctica is being walloped by climate extremes, scientists find

And then there are scientists with opposing views.

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And then there are scientists with opposing views.

I could not find any reference where a scientist expressed an opposing view, at all.

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https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/climate-heretic/

From your own reference

Curry’s saga began with a Science paper she co-authored in 2005, which linked an increase in powerful tropical cyclones to global warming

So it is important to emphasize that nothing she encountered led her to question the science; she still has no doubt that the planet is warming, that human-generated greenhouse gases, including carbon dioxide, are in large part to blame, or that the plausible worst-case scenario could be catastrophic. She does not believe that the Climategate e-mails are evidence of fraud or that the IPCC is some kind of grand international conspiracy.

This is not an expert expressing an opposing view as you said. In fact the reference supports completely the article you are commenting in.

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extreme weather associated with human-caused climate change

A bad propaganda sample for proving the phrase 'human-caused'. Geographically, the next human populations or significant economic and industrial activities are thousands of miles away, in fact they are even a whole hemisphere away. lol

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A bad propaganda sample for proving the phrase 'human-caused'. Geographically, the next human populations or significant economic and industrial activities are thousands of miles away

Are you under the impression the industrial activity have only a local effect? that makes absolutely no sense. Climate change is a global phenomenon caused by the whole of the human activity, with variate effects around the whole planet, it is irrelevant how close or far from human populations the problems appear, as long as they are in our planet it they can be related to human activity derived climate change.

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According to data from NASA's satelites ("GRACE" and its follow-on):

Antarctica is losing ice mass (melting) at an average rate of about 150 billion tons per year, and Greenland is losing about 270 billion tons per year, adding to sea level rise.

https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/ice-sheets/

ANTARCTIA

2002 - base

2004 - 488.0Gt loss

2008 - 727.0Gt loss

2012 - 1148.5Gt loss

2016 - 1930.4Gt loss

2020 - 2777.2Gt loss

GREENLAND

2002 - base

2004 - 378.3Gt loss

2008 - 1346.0Gt loss

2012 - 2718.1Gt loss

2016 - 3741.9Gt loss

2020 - 4793.8Gt loss

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A bad propaganda sample for proving the phrase 'human-caused'. Geographically, the next human populations or significant economic and industrial activities are thousands of miles away, in fact they are even a whole hemisphere away. lol

People sometimes suggest that those who are climate change sceptics are ignorant about the science, are intellectually lazy and simply reach out for the easiest argument that would support their view, even if it is clearly gibberish.

But putting that aside, your "I've sheets are a long way from industrial activity" is not an argument I've heard before. I would love to see the research that suggests that global climate change is a purely local phenomenon.

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And according to scientists :

https://norwegianscitechnews.com/2023/04/the-ice-in-antarctica-has-melted-before/

https://news.sky.com/story/greenland-may-have-been-green-and-ice-free-416-000-years-ago-12924566

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Here in California there is a possibility of Hurricane Hillary hitting us this weekend, as a tropical storm. If so, it would be the first time in almost a hundred years that a tropical storm has made it this far north. Blame changing and weakening ocean currents off the coast.

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