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Experts say coral reef bleaching near record level globally because of 'crazy' ocean heat

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This wouldn't be happening without climate change. 

It is difficult to find something so definitively related to the damage, yet unscrupulous people will still insist there is nothing to worry about it, or that humans had nothing to do with it since it is a "natural process", at some point irrational antiscientific claims work more to discredit those that choose to repeat them than to support what is being said.

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unscrupulous people will still insist there is nothing to worry about it

Or indeed, down thumb your very legitimate comment.

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@Virusrex

I acknowledge climate change.

I am a scientist.

I don't like nature suffering but science has showed that life evolved sometimes fast sometimes slowly.

Please tell me how coral reef bleaching is going to hurt mankind and kill people at the end of the day.

I see humans as animals and part of nature.

You can't control nature fully especially on large scale.

What could reasonably be done outside technical progress by education OR euthanizing large part of human population ? I chose the first one and so it takes time to correct the path and such nature change is bound to happen more or less with our species taking over the Earth.

On the opposite, nature is never saying it's last word and nature has wonderful tricks like discovery of new species.

Also what can reasonably be done for corals protection ? Nothing.

For coral new development (new species, new locations...) ? Plenty

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Please tell me how coral reef bleaching is going to hurt mankind and kill people at the end of the day.

Appeals to authority are meaningless without credentials, specially when ignoring well known information that is readily available.

For example

https://www.worldwildlife.org/pages/everything-you-need-to-know-about-coral-bleaching-and-how-we-can-stop-it

Coral bleaching matters because once these corals die, reefs rarely come back. With few corals surviving, they struggle to reproduce, and entire reef ecosystems, on which people and wildlife depend, deteriorate.

What could reasonably be done outside technical progress by education OR euthanizing large part of human population ? 

Again, pretending the repeated appeals from experts about what can realistically be done is not an argument, is trying to excuse not having an argument because of ignorance, which of course only makes the opinion valueless, you do not excuse your position because of lack of knowledge, you only make it clear why it is not valid.

https://davidsuzuki.org/what-you-can-do/top-10-ways-can-stop-climate-change/

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/article/global-warming-solutions

https://www.epa.gov/coral-reefs/what-you-can-do-help-protect-coral-reefs

The position of the scientific organizations that have to do with climate change is clear, and it is not "give up" as you personally choose to do, but instead that action needs to be taken now to limit the damage, obviously the scientific institutions of the whole world are not wrong just because you choose to believe differently.

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Guess we expect the ocean to, not only feed us, give us recreation, give us water, but also to accept being used as a toilet, a dump, act as a natural vacuum cleaner and suck all the CO2 we've dumped into the air.

These weren't things I ever had to think about. One thing that gives us hope is that we have the knowledge, information, and science/tech to reverse this over the centuries. We stopped acid rain, we started to fix the ozone layer, and we stopped smog, we stopped dying from waterborne diseases, we stopped lead, and we stopped using mercury. So we have hope, we have a plan, now it just takes the politicians, to sort this mess out.(whether we like it or not) If we don't do something, nature will do something about it...with or without us.

We accepted the science of germs and viruses, we accept the science of biology, disease, chemistry, and physics at school. Why would we Not want to accept the climate science? Because it has become a political issue for some people!

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Hence it should not be political by forcing taxes (CO2) and wild ideas (survival of the species or else) into our throats.

The real actions is not done : punishing the polluters (fine or cleaning for littering hardly ever applied like in the past, with all the waste flowing to see), taking care of plants (giving building permits where it is already full of concrete again common sense), forgetting old techniques to have an adapted environment in cities (enough shade, light colours, enough plants, limitation to human density...), and list could go on, those being just the basics.

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Jonathan PrinToday  11:20 am JST

Hence it should not be political by forcing taxes (CO2) and wild ideas (survival of the species or else) into our throats.

The real actions is not done : punishing the polluters (fine or cleaning for littering hardly ever applied like in the past, with all the waste flowing to see), taking care of plants (giving building permits where it is already full of concrete again common sense), forgetting old techniques to have an adapted environment in cities (enough shade, light colours, enough plants, limitation to human density...), and list could go on, those being just the basics.

Taxes are applied to every voter no matter the political officiation.We are already getting the polluters to pay via the carbon trading system. Btw it’s no about the survival of the species but it is about survival to some people in areas where crops fail, rivers dry up. So absolutely not survival of the species but it maybe survival to someone hit by massive flooding, typhoons, and areas where farmers are having problems. That’ll eventually mean more of our taxes used to support farmers. Absolutely we need to reduce the concrete jungle but that’ll take time and again taxes from everyone to invest in our cities.

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Ocean temperatures that have gone “crazy haywire” hot

The oceans, and indeed our entire planet, are warming up very rapidly. We are in a climate crisis due to a greenhouse process. If we do not wish to commit suicide, we have to stop using petroleum, coal and gas immediately.

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The real actions is not done

None of the actions you describe would address the main causes of climate change, which is just a consequence of mistakenly thinking there is no climate problem in the first place, even when plenty of sources prove precisely that.

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Food chain. Remember the food chain? We are at the top of it. The more species that die (one feeding on the other) the less we have to eat. If things continue as they are the only food we'll have is each other. (And for those who claim that "it's just nature being nature", can your crystal ball tell when we will all die?)

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