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Spain worries over 'lifeless land' amid creeping desertification

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In the dock are the usual suspects: global warming, which is driving rising temperatures leading to water evaporation that causes more wildfires, but also human activity, which is the biggest culprit, notably due to intensive farming.

In other words:

In the dock are the usual suspects: greed, capitalism, poor leadership, politics.

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So it seems that severe droughts must have occurred in Spain before, because it would have taken years to build that stone church in the middle of a lake, only to have it covered by water later on. What was the cause of the severe droughts many centuries ago? Manmade climate change too? If not, how can we believe this time that we did it, but it was something else back then?

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So it seems that severe droughts must have occurred in Spain before, because it would have taken years to build that stone church in the middle of a lake, only to have it covered by water later on. What was the cause of the severe droughts many centuries ago? Manmade climate change too? If not, how can we believe this time that we did it, but it was something else back then?

Excellent point.

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So it seems that severe droughts must have occurred in Spain before, because it would have taken years to build that stone church in the middle of a lake, only to have it covered by water later on. What was the cause of the severe droughts many centuries ago? Manmade climate change too? If not, how can we believe this time that we did it, but it was something else back then?

The lake is an artificial reservoir created by damming the river that runs through that valley. The old church was submerged when the reservoir behind the dam was filled. Now the lake is mostly empty and the formerly submerged church is revealed, much as old towns and wrecks are being revealed on the formerly submerged but now dry lake bed of Lake Meade. It is what happens when there isn't enough rainfall to meet the demands of the reservoirs users. The lake dries up. This is a man made problem.

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Here are some facts about the reservoirs and the towns that were submerged when the reservoirs were filled.

https://ordesasobrarbe.com/en/espacios/pueblos-ahogados-recorrido-por-los-pueblos-que-lindan-los-pantanos-de-mediano-y-del-grado/

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Btw, as you can see from the bathtub ring on the church spire, even when Mediano Reservoir is at its maximum elevation the top of the spire is exposed above the water, a sad reminder of what lies beneath the surface of the water.

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So it seems that severe droughts must have occurred in Spain before, because it would have taken years to build that stone church in the middle of a lake, only to have it covered by water later on. What was the cause of the severe droughts many centuries ago? Manmade climate change too? If not, how can we believe this time that we did it, but it was something else back then?

You have questions? The Chihuahua has answers !!!

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If not, how can we believe this time that we did it, but it was something else back then?

That is easy, scientific research can give a definitive answer, the problem is people ignoring completely the field and for some reason expecting the best experts on that field to be in the same situation.

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Manmade climate change too? If not, how can we believe this time that we did it, but it was something else back then?

Right. People have a short memory, and forget the natural historical changes.

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Right. People have a short memory, and forget the natural historical changes

What scientific arguments do you have to claim the experts in the field (that say current changes are related to climate change) forgot "historical changes"?

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