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Please what!!!!

Top Countries by Fossil Fuel Consumption in 2023

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/top-countries-by-fossil-fuel-consumption-in-2023/#:~:text=China%20and%20the%20U.S.%20are,of%20global%20fossil%20fuel%20consumption.&text=%F0%9F%87%BA%F0%9F%87%B8%20U.S.&text=In%202023%2C%20China%20consumed%20140,was%20third%20with%2035%20exajoules.

In 2023, China consumed 140 exajoules of fossil fuels, equivalent to approximately 5.8 billion tonnes of hard coal. The U.S. followed with 76 exajoules, while India was third with 35 exajoule

The Government of China is engaging cynically disingenuously duplicitously to undermine through subsidies, through over production, global rules based trading methodology to clandestinely hobble EU/US manufacturing.

The government of China actions on the use of fossil fuels is evidence enough.

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"As of July 2024, China had 1,161 operational coal-fired power plants, which is more than any other country. China's coal power plants generate over half of the world's coal electricity".

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US going backwards again..

Making easier to China get world's first place..

Trump is the new Biden..

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sciences are hard to understand for trump and his people. Education should be their number one priority.

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US going backwards again.

Not at all.. 

Making easier to China get world's first place.. 

Hardly.

As of 2023, China emitted approximately 11.9 billion metric tons of carbon dioxide (CO₂), accounting for over 31% of global CO₂ emissions. This makes China the world’s largest CO₂ emitter. In terms of per capita emissions, China emits about 8 tons of CO₂ per person annually, which is lower than countries like the United States (16.1 tons) and Australia (16.8 tons). 

Now having said that, China is not going to stop, they need coal as much as we do, so we should abide by the rules and go as you said, backward while China moves forward regardless and tries to advance its military (that's what this is really all about) just not going to happen.

Trump is the new Biden..

Not even close, no muppets, handlers, or anyone whispering to him

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Per capita, the US is the largest emitter of greenhouse gases.

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"Trump's climate retreat allows China, Brazil, others to step up leadership"

Very good! Let China and Brazil lead themselves to bankruptcy.

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Per capita, the US is the largest emitter of greenhouse gases.

Yes.

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Under Trump's policies greenhouse gases will increase. More than 50% from car and electricity.

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The Red State of Texas has the largest number of wind turbines, more than 15,000, and will continue to generate power from them during Trump's second term.

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The Red State of Texas has the largest number of wind turbines, more than 15,000, and will continue to generate power from them during Trump's second term.

And that will cease to implement more

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New Texas wind turbines are under construction.

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"Coal generated 16% of electricity in the United States in 2023, an amount less than that from renewable energy or nuclear power, and about half of that generated by natural gas plants. Coal was 17% of generating capacity."

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New Texas wind turbines are under construction.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-signs-executive-order-pausing-184017084.html

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bass4funk

New Texas wind turbines are under construction.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-signs-executive-order-pausing-184017084.html

You should read the link before posting.

"The executive order he signed Monday temporarily halts offshore wind energy lease sales in federal waters and pauses approvals, permits, and loans for both offshore and onshore wind."

Federal lands and federal loans.

Texas wind turbines are not offshore. They are on private land which Trump has no control over. There are plans to build new ones in the Gulf of America.

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You should read the link before posting.

I do, yes. Keep them on liberal private limited lands

https://youtu.be/LklUVkMPl8g?si=hwDl3p1JrcTWysZD

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I do, yes. Keep them on liberal private limited lands

Looking at a Texas map for the location of wind turbines which are all over the state, there must be many private liberal lands in your red state

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Looking at a Texas map for the location of wind turbines which are all over the state,

They will never overtake fossil fuel, not in the near foreseeable future.

Texas crude oil production set new records in six of the past 12 months in 2024. The Texas industry produced 5.86 million barrels per day of crude oil in October 2024 – led by production in west Texas in the Permian Basin. It was the largest total on record in history.

Texas’ crude oil production represents 44% of the national total.

https://www.thecentersquare.com/texas/article_26596e72-cf66-11ef-be41-6707413d79ed.html

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/IEA-Sees-Large-Oil-Glut-in-2025-Despite-OPEC-Delay-to-Supply-Hike.html

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bass4funk

Looking at a Texas map for the location of wind turbines which are all over the state,

They will never overtake fossil fuel, not in the near foreseeable future.

Your arguments are weak so you throw in an aspect I didn't post about. In Texas wind turbines generate more power than coal.

Yes, Texas wind turbines generate more power than coal-fired power plants. In 2020, wind power surpassed coal-fired power in Texas. Texas has been the leader in wind energy in the United States for 17 years.

Texas crude oil production set new records in six of the past 12 months in 2024. The Texas industry produced 5.86 million barrels per day of crude oil in October 2024 – led by production in west Texas in the Permian Basin. It was the largest total on record in history.

Oil is not used for generating power so what is your point?

Get a grid and relax.

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There are plans to build new ones in the Gulf of America.

Still the Gulf of Mexico to the world outside US borders. Including I would think Japan.

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All of you stat providers, CO2 per capita (as rigged by a certain nation) includes all goods manufactured and the carbon footprints of exporting such goods. e.g in Europe Germany CO2 much greater than UghK (uk gov blah blah windpower) but Ughk has minimal manufacturing and exports, thanks for all the cars deutchland. China aka none previously has the factory of the world, heh Ughk & USed, how where the xmas trees and fairy lights this year. China is one of the leading solar energy and wind energy producers per KwH. But 1.4blln v 265Blln persons still uses coal in the winters for heating. all nationwide HSR now electric and reducing short haul flights. US discussion and blame forum please.

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aplologies 365 millions persons (before the Exec Order mass deportations

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Your arguments are weak

Not at all

so you throw in an aspect I didn't post about. In Texas wind turbines generate more power than coal.

And not as reliable as oil.

https://youtu.be/qNEMAklFF0I?si=eyqzYRP4bvlwmN8U

This perfectly sums up the wind turbine debate.

https://youtu.be/fmbZwxEnAFc?si=W_7ULhurd70-BC9j

I couldn’t agree more.

Oil is not used for generating power so what is your point?

Depends, there’s a robust argument for that as well

Get a grid and relax.

I’m always relaxed, always.

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And not as reliable as oil.

Oil is not used for power generation but it is responsible for 25% of the US greenhouse gases.

Oil is not used for generating power so what is your point?

Depends, there’s a robust argument for that as well

New power plants to run on oil. Very expensive.

Get a grid and relax.

I’m always relaxed, always.

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Oil is not used for power generation

You’re not getting it, it doesn’t matter how much wind Car have it will not replace oil, it will not be replaced products where you use crude oil come whether it’s lipstick, tires, paint for your car, polyester, wigs, toothpasteyou

Get a grid and relax.

I’m always relaxed anyway, I’m glad oil production is up now and will continue

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Electricity is used for a lot more than your narrow-minded ideas of connecting wind turbines with EVs.

As of November 2023, there were around 149,000 electric vehicles (EVs) registered in Texas. A small number of the total cars.

Wind turbines are a way to generate electricity like other energies.

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Electricity is used for a lot more than your narrow-minded ideas of connecting wind turbines with EVs.

As of November 2023, there were around 149,000 electric vehicles (EVs) registered in Texas. A small number of the total cars.

Wind turbines are a way to generate electricity like other energies.

Well, EV sales In 2024, accounted for 8.7% of all new car sales, totaling approximately 1.3 million units. a 7% increase from the previous year. It will never overtake gas powered vehicles or replace the need for crude oil

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Well, EV sales In 2024, accounted for 8.7% of all new car sales, totaling approximately 1.3 million units. a 7% increase from the previous year. It will never overtake gas powered vehicles or replace the need for crude oil

I didn't post it would but one day the gas will run out and then what?

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I didn't post it would but one day the gas will run out and then what?

We both won’t be here to see it, so let the next generation deal with it.

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‘Electrification is absolutely unstoppable’

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Electrification is absolutely unstoppable

No once saying that it is unstoppable, but it’s not infinite meaning that the more electricity we use, the more the price will go up, the more grids we have to build and that’s gonna cost. Billions, my argument was not that my argument was oil is not going away anytime soon, that was my point, so it’s better to drill now and get as much as we can fill up our oil reserves use it, sell it to our allies that depend on it, that’s what I’m talking about.

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Trump's Stargate AI project will require many new DATA centers that use more electricity than some countries.

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Billions, my argument was not that my argument was oil is not going away anytime soon, that was my point, so it’s better to drill now and get as much as we can fill up our oil reserves use it, sell it to our allies that depend on it, that’s what I’m talking about.

Oil will run out. You wanna burn it in cars or save it for your jet?

The more oil you burn in cars the less you have for your jet and the more expensive it becomes.

By using more renewable energy you prolong the life of unrenewable energy, which is vital because many physical products can't be made with anything else.

We both won’t be here to see it, so let the next generation deal with it.

Incredibly selfish.

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@Wallace

"Oil is not used for generating power so what is your point?"

Internal combustion engine (ICE)? They generate power. They run on refined oil products.

I understand you probably meant electricity, not "power", but I believe many Japanese and Americans regularly move stored electricity from their cars with ICE into the power grid.

Also, while the US may have a higher per capita contribution to greenhouse gases, "per capita" is not the metric of interest here. Total volume emitted by a geopolitical entity/country is where the discussion makes more sense. That's how we'll all work together and develop a reduction strategy.

I support climate change related efforts at fossil fuel consumption reduction, but Paris Accord needs to be re-structured. As usual, Trump is trying to force a renegotiation of something that is not good for the US.

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Trump's Stargate AI project will require many new DATA centers that use more electricity than some countries.

Good, which has nothing to do with oil, except you do need it to run many of these electrical systems.

Oil will run out.

One day, yes, not for another 1-2 generations

You wanna burn it in cars or save it for your jet? 

You need for everything else as well

The more oil you burn in cars the less you have for your jet and the more expensive it becomes. 

We will have it for decades to come in the foreseeable future, we have more than enough, push the environmentalists to the side, drill and frack and it can be easily done.

By using more renewable energy you prolong the life of unrenewable energy, which is vital because many physical products can't be made with anything else.

renewable energy can’t make paint, plastic, tires, pencils and pens, toothbrushes and thousands of other products that depend on crude oil.

Incredibly selfish.

Just keeping it real.

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bass4funkToday 02:58 am JST

renewable energy can’t make paint, plastic, tires, pencils and pens, toothbrushes and thousands of other products that depend on crude oil.

Yes, this would be an argument for not blowing all of the hydrocarbons on F-150s.

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Yes, this would be an argument for not blowing all of the hydrocarbons on F-150s.

My favorite truck. Anyway, thankfully Ford is going to doing what they do best and that’s making gas powered vehicles

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Bret T

@Wallace

"Oil is not used for generating power so what is your point?"

Internal combustion engine (ICE)? They generate power. They run on refined oil products.

Being a former electrical engineer we use the term "power" when referring to electricity. The generating stations are called power plants.

Greenhouse gases need to be per capita. The US has a population of 350 million while the Chinese is 1.5 billion.

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allows China, Brazil, others to step up leadership

Good. Lets see where China, that is currently building more new coal-fired power plants than are in operation in all of Europe, is leading us.

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