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""Britain and Germany produced their cleanest electricity on record last year, with renewables reaching record highs, according to data released last week.

Renewable energy like wind and solar accounted for 59 percent of production in Germany, while in Britain it stood at 45 percent, the data showed.""

Congratulations, well done.

A lesson to all the Dinosaurs who keep PUSHING Coal and fossil fuel as a source of energy.

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In the UK power from wind turbines for the first time is higher than that of gas. Coal is zero.

GB Fuel type power generation production

https://gridwatch.co.uk

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More solar and wind is in the pipeline. If we could make electricity from rain as well we'd be sorted. Plenty of that around lately. Maybe turbines in the drains.

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Expensive as all Hell. Germany is regretting this, and so are large numbers of brits, regardless of what the government might claim.

And "clean" is debatable, considering all the materials that need to be mined and processed to make solar and wind generators. The greenies conveniently forget about those when blowing their horns.

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Yes, of course, I believe everything. In fact, if there is a low in supply due to less wind or clouds in the sky they additionally buy maximum expensive and dirty or nuclear energy from any neighboring country. But we can still believe that the goals are reached quickly, because after complete deindustrialization, there's surely no more need for energy, not even renewable one. lol

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The UK's energy costs are the highest in the world. Those old folks shivering under the blankets because they cannot afford the cost of heating probably don't care how many wind turbines the UK has. They would prefer some cheap Russian gas.

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UK electricity prices are twice that of Japan. Japan ¥25/kWh. UK ¥50/kWh.

The price of natural gas increases the prices.

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It was Thatcher who sold off British gas.

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The current "green" energy programs are a complete scam. If you look at the total environmental impact of these programs to harvest unstorable electricity from extreme low-density and fluctuating sources with giant, largely Chinese made, machines spread over huge areas requiring a massive service infrastructure, there is nothing green about them. Fluff articles like this only look at the official surface, but never below it. And Germany now enjoys brownouts and is going bankrupt... but the government basks in virtue-signalling.

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All electricity generated, regardless of the fuel used, is non-storable. The high cost of UK electricity is due to the high-priced gas used for power generation.

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The high cost of UK electricity is due to the high-priced gas used for power generation.

The high cost of UK electricity is due to the high-priced gas caused mainly by the failed sanctions pushing up prices in the west. Punishing UK pensioners not Putin.

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I continue to question the essence of this green transition of Europe, given that Europe emits 7% of global CO2 emissions annually. Nothing will be achieved on a global level, only the economy will go downhill. With Trump elected, forget about the green transition in the United States. For everyone else, the green transition is as important as last year's snow.

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All electricity generated, regardless of the fuel used, is non-storable.

I'm not sure what you mean by non-storable, but here in Scotland (and I imagine in other places too), excess electricity is used for pumped hydro storage. Basically, water is pumped into reservoirs that feed hydro-electric power stations.

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wallace

All electricity generated, regardless of the fuel used, is non-storable. 

Exactly. Which is why a stable base production of energy is required for an industrial society, and not chaotic, wildly fluctuating power.

albaleo

I'm not sure what you mean by non-storable, but here in Scotland (and I imagine in other places too), excess electricity is used for pumped hydro storage.

Hydro storage is a good concept, but only works where there are geographical conditions that allow it. Even in places like Norway and Austria, it can only be used to a limited degree. There is no hydro-storage for whale-killing windmills in the Northern Sea, for sure.

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albaleo

All electricity generated, regardless of the fuel used, is non-storable.

I'm not sure what you mean by non-storable, but here in Scotland (and I imagine in other places too), excess electricity is used for pumped hydro storage. Basically, water is pumped into reservoirs that feed hydro-electric power stations.

I did not include pumped hydro because it does not directly store electricity. It uses electricity to pump ware up during the night to be released in the day to generate new power. The use is limited in many cases by location.

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 There is no hydro-storage for whale-killing windmills in the Northern Sea, for sure.

Windmills grind wheat for flour. Wind turbines generate a usable supply of electricity.

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Energy in the UK has always been expensive.

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How come the price of electricity and gas is so expensive in the UK then? It is right there near the top.

For example:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/263492/electricity-prices-in-selected-countries/

Notice where countries like Russia, China, KSA, Turkiye are.

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Before politicians, who claim back energy costs on second homes, from the hard pressed tax payers, slap each other on the back.

In "net zero", ideological zealotry producing a series of muscle contractions.

Here is the bottom line, reality for failure to fully produce a full mix of energy opinions, before a fatally flawed polices of yet to be developed next generation renewables.

Average gas and electricity usage*

https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/average-gas-and-electricity-usage

Pensioners, families have to endure the eyewatering costs.

Flat or 1-bedroom house / 1-2 people)Gas: 8,000 kWh Elec: 1,800 kWh 1,292.44 (£107.70 monthly)

Medium (3-bedroom house / 2-3 people)Gas: 12,000 kWh, Elec: 2,900 kWh £1,819.33 (£151.61)

High (5-bedroom house / 4-5 people)Gas: 17,000 kWh Elec: 4,300 kWh £2,484.16 (£207.01)

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In 1923, here in California, 54% of the electricity generated within the state was renewable. Less than 1/2% was from burning coal. We started the world's first wind farm in the early 1980s at Altamont Pass. We are the number one producer of geothermal energy in the world. We lead the USA in solar electricity generation. The mandate for EVs was passed by our government in 1990.

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Not 1923, but 2023.

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wallace

Windmills grind wheat for flour.

Word games are not an argument.

Wind turbines generate a usable supply of electricity.

Usable? You might want to check some analysis by Björn Lomborg before repeating that slogan uncritically.

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Can't have dirty electricity if you don't have electricity. I kid, I kid. Seriously, get the nukes up and running.

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On the subject of energy storage by batteries, here in Cali we have over 14 Mw of storage available, with more being installed all the time.

On the subject of how much electricity it takes to power a home, we had solar panels installed on the roof in 2018 for a final cost of less than 8,000 USD, and they supply most of the electricity that we need. We use the grid like a battery.......we sell excess electricity to the power company in the daytime, and buy it back at night.

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