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Wild weather driven by roiling Pacific, nature and warming

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As the title says, the ocean is responsible for some of this weather.

Nothing has changed.

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it of help from human-caused climate change.

Normalizing human-caused , it's probably required mention now

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Anyway i hope they throw the money at it instead of at the arms race

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"the big driver is a three-year La Nina -- natural temporary cooling of the equatorial Pacific Ocean that alters world weather patterns -- that just won’t quit. "

Notice that the key word is natural.

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I become more convinced daily that climatologists’ predictions are based on the reading of tea leaves.

Why can’t they just say “We don’t really know the cause and won’t mess around until we do.” But … how would they then get grants from corporations that worship “expertise”?

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As the title says, the ocean is responsible for some of this weather.

Nothing has changed.

The title specifically mentions warming, which is the thing that is changing, a contributor factor that is increasing its importance.

Normalizing human-caused , it's probably required mention now

There is nothing wrong with saying it, that is the scientific consensus and can help people understand both that the problems related to it are going to be worse in the future and the also the importance of doing something to reduce this. The article clearly takes a measured position at the end that clearly says climate change is affecting some things much more importantly than others.

Why can’t they just say “We don’t really know the cause and won’t mess around until we do.” 

The article is about explaining the causes of what is observed with scientific arguments, and explaining how those causes origin the phenomenon.

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The 'news' is anything but.

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EastmanToday  03:24 pm JST

read text with attention.

these things are natural ones.

have happened before,happening now,will happen in future again.

no "science" needed.

All correct.

virusrexToday  11:09 am JST

*The title specifically mentions warming, which is the thing that is changing, a contributor factor that is increasing its importance.*

The title specifically mentions weather--which is the thing changing; in fact it is being changed by the warming, so you have it all wrong. Again.

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read text with attention.

these things are natural ones.

And made worse because of human activity, it is there in the article very clearly.

The title specifically mentions weather--which is the thing changing; in fact it is being changed by the warming, so you have it all wrong. Again.

That flawed interpretation of the significance of the word warming in the title is contradicted in the first line of the text "...with a bit of help from human-caused climate change."

The article then goes deeper into the effect a warmer climate thanks to human activity have on the variability of the weather, this explains why the weather is not only changing, but it is more extreme.

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If one is arguing in 2023 that there is not human-caused climate change happening now that is affecting humanity now, one is marking oneself as a moron.

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As someone who lives in South Cal, I would rather deal with these rains than with the multiyear lack of rain. I hope that the rivers and lakes of the Northern Hemisphere fill back up with fresh water.

I also hope that we do not lose sight of the longer term droughts that will return, year after year, and what needs to be done to deal with them. More massive desalination plants seem like a no brainer.

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Weather inequality,lots of people in the world,do not have access to a local metrologist ,our metrologist will break into a local broadcast and give storm updates in real time,the US weather service is the best in the world,with providing weather data,lots of companies want to charge American for weather info,even when the info is payed for with their tax dollars, Apple just abandoned it free weather service, leaving a lots of people in the dark,I found an alternative called Meteoblue,it better it has live radar coverage,even for Tokyo ,use it Where to Go functional,you can plan a trip through out Japan and see the rain chances 5 days in advance in most of Japan Google Meteoblue Tokyo

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Anonymous, metrology is not astrology,they have 10 of thousands of weather stations around the world, collecting data ,that is feed into a computer model and a forecast is derived for you

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