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'Blood on your hands' if world steps back on tackling COVID now: WHO official

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The WHO knows a lot about having blood on your hands

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These people have ZERO credibility to discuss anything, anytime, anywhere.

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Aylward... Isn't this guy in China's pocket? I remember watching an interview that he did with a Taiwanese reporter back when this whole farce was in the early stages. When she asked him an uncomfortable question about China, he pretended that the signal dropped out, then quickly ended the interview soon after.

Zero credibility is being kind. Aylward and people like him have to be dragged through criminal court by their ears and be forced to cough up everything they know about all the cover-ups and disinfo.

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Agree with all 3 posters.

My father worked his whole life for WHO and when he retired back in the 1990s he always said the WHO was a shell of its former self. He hated what it had become back then. He said that the Org had started to go downhill after Dr Mahler retired and Nakajima took over. And it still wasn't as bad as it is today. My father is probably turning over in his grave now.

But they do have a point in that if the developing world does not get vaccinated to a level close to the developed world not only could we see more deaths but we also run the risk of new variants that may be more dangerous than anything we've seen so far.

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Aly, I agree with your first paragraph, but for the second, I think the developing world is growing wary of the WHO and various other UN arms and NGOs. Plenty of them promise the world, yet deliver little in the way of benefit once all the hangers-on have taken their cut - and not infrequently deliver projects that do more harm than good.

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Plenty of them promise the world, yet deliver little in the way of benefit once all the hangers-on have taken their cut - and not infrequently deliver projects that do more harm than good.

can't disagree with anything you said. Still remember the scandal when the developed world sent covid vaccines to either Kenya or Nigeria (can't remember which) only to have that country dispose of most of them because they were past their due date. So I hear you loud and clear, but we do need to get as many people in the developing world vaccinated as possible, just so we can avoid another Omicron style variant. We don't know what this virus will morph into next

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The WHO should remember their own song 'Won't Get Fooled Again'.

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The WHO knows a lot about having blood on your hands

Because of the work it has done to prevent and reduce many different diseases? people acting against it (including several goverments) would be a much more adequate target of the criticism.

These people have ZERO credibility to discuss anything, anytime, anywhere.

According to whom? experts and professionals in health in every country have collaboration efforts and use the WHO instructions and guidelines to deal with diseases, that clearly contradict your personal opinion about it.

Aylward... Isn't this guy in China's pocket? 

The WHO has been prived from any kind of political power since more than a decade ago, so it completely depends on the voluntary cooperation of every country in order to fulfill their roles, it simply can't put itself in the middle of the China-Taiwan situation, specially at a time when China was the only country that could provide information necessary to deal with the pandemic.

 I think the developing world is growing wary of the WHO and various other UN arms and NGOs.

Then why are so many dependent/benefit on the work the WHO is still doing? What other medical authority is doing the same work?

The actual problem with the WHO is direct consequence of the pressure of the developed countries that opposed all kind of power it had to pressure them to do what is necessary to deal with international health care problems. This means that the organization right now can't directly oppose any country and this obviously makes everything they do much more difficult. Developing countries still benefit greatly from programs of the WHO, but without a great deal more of political power it is just a losing game with the WHO and poor countries in one side and the rich countries in the other.

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The WHO knows a lot about having blood on your hands

Indeed, the WHO has blood on their hands, but who doesn't?

These people have ZERO credibility to discuss anything, anytime, anywhere.

Indeed, the WHO has no credibility, but who does?

Though, we should give them credit for announcing quite early on that Remdesivir doesn't work. Too bad nobody listened to them then. Surprisingly, they changed their minds a few months ago!

So I hear you loud and clear, but we do need to get as many people in the developing world vaccinated as possible, just so we can avoid another Omicron style variant.

I think we should leave them alone. The less a country is vaccinated, the better off they are; and vice-versa....

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Though, we should give them credit for announcing quite early on that Remdesivir doesn't work. Too bad nobody listened to them then. Surprisingly, they changed their minds a few months ago!

When you have repeatedly pushed for people to ignore everything the health care authorities of the world have said about the vaccines you appeal loses all its value, listening to valid and objective scientific evidence is the best possible way to do what benefit public health the most, if a drug demonstrate being useful in specific situations what is the problem with recommending it?

I think we should leave them alone. The less a country is vaccinated, the better off they are; and vice-versa....

Making up imaginary causal relationships is a very poor argument, specially when the value of vaccines has been proved beyond any reasonable doubts. No scientific or medical institution of the world supports your beliefs about the supposed benefit of lack of vaccination, obviously you will not pretend every single one is in some conspiracy, right? that would be unbelievable.

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The WHO has made many tragic mistakes and most fo the times third world countries suffer as a result of mistaken "advice" by this agency,

The West also fell victim listening to the WHO's advice at the beginning of the crisis by listening to its advice that makss are not necessary for the general public, when actual international medical experts in Asia were advising to the contrary.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/30/world/coronavirus-who-masks-recommendation-trnd/index.html

No one has any source showing that wearing masks increase the rates of infections in the general public so the WHO just threw out careless advice without any scientific support.

Anyone that argues the WHO was correct with this advice (which would be bizarre since the WHO reversed its position) would believe that it was correct to advise blood lettings for ailments such as throat infections, and have those carried out by barbers.

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The WHO has made many tragic mistakes and most fo the times third world countries suffer as a result of mistaken "advice" by this agency,

Every time you repeat this it is proved false when you fail to produce evidence that contradicts this advice that was available at the time. The advice was completely justified, and it clearly recommended prioritizing masks for symptomatic patients, something that was repeated by experts of most countries in the world including Japan, your personal bias against the organization is shared by no international expert apart from you and is even clearly contradicted by other health authorities apart from the WHO.

What is the point of repeating something that has been proved false without even making the effort to defend that mistaken position, you have never produced any evidence that contradicted the advice of every international health care authority (not only the WHO), that is the minimum requirement you need to actually demonstrate your comment is not wrong

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I think we should leave them alone.

Many of these countries are requesting those vaccines themselves. And as we've seen with Omicron which started in SA, no such thing as leave them alone. We are all connected

The less a country is vaccinated, the better off they are; and vice-versa....

BS

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Meanwhile, the same WHO stated that excess non-COVID deaths amounted to 14.9 million because of the lockdown of hospitals. Since hospitals were only working at a fraction of capacity due to the lockdowns, people were unable to get necessary medical care or preventive measures they needed. So, the COVID policies and solutions were a bigger problem than the COVID problem itself.

Just for reference, 14.9 million lockdown related deaths compared to 6 million COVID deaths. More than double. On top of that, the 6 million deaths is likely much lower because many COVID labeled deaths were people who died with COVID, not because of COVID.

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