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Doctors and nurses battle virus skeptics

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By HEATHER HOLLINGSWORTH

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The virus is real, but the response to it is somewhat a hoax.

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It's dealing with patients and relatives who don't believe the virus is real, refuse to wear masks and demand treatments like hydroxychloroquine, which President Donald Trump

All to be expected when the lead male in the White House, SuperSpreder#1, is a pandemic denier himself and is aided and abetted by global far right troll armies using media of all forms to push their misinformation to audiences of poorly educated and intellectually vulnerable populations, who sadly are the ones hurt most by the pandemic.

Hats off and hearts out to ALL medical professionals.

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Thousands of health and allied professionals have died worldwide from Covid-19 since the pandemic began, the deliberately overlooked victims of the "it's all a hoax" crowd. Exposed to danger during all the hours of their working days, the health workers also have to cope with the ignorant requests and aggression of Trump's unthinking shock troops, who even when struck down by the virus refuse to use the few brain cells they were allotted at birth.

And meanwhile, no word from the top to try and defend the health workers who, in another life, could have been the ones working to try and save Trump's life, if he hadn't been born into wealth and had the good luck to lead a privileged life. But what do Trump and his ilk care about the troubles of the ordinary health worker, when they have teams of professionals dedicated to them, and them alone?

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We cannot blame people from becoming skeptics. “The majority of people don’t understand and can’t picture what we are seeing.” and yet, "..and you are trying to deal with a disease that such little is known about". The real culprit is that until now, medical experts failed to establish the complete anatomy and how do we really dodge getting infected from this ubiquitous virus.

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The virus is a hoax until you catch it and regret. There is a saying if you can't see it, don't believe it. Cheers.

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Even here you will have people endlessly repeating that there is no real danger from the pandemic, that doctors and scientist hide effective drugs even from their own families or that medical advice based on science is just an overblown media campaign of misinformation. Repeating these lies is what makes life difficult for people treating patients.

Irresponsibly repeating bad information because of ignorance would be bad enough, but some people are even worse and repeat things they know are false, trying actively to convince others of things even themselves no longer think are true.

One important thing is that they are not virus skeptics, because an skeptic is the person that looks for evidence, they are virus deniers, because no amount of evidence will ever convince them they are wrong, their cult-like beliefs are more important than the health of others.

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If they demand Hydroyxcloroquine then give it to them. If they die.... Their choice. If they refuse to wear a mask or turn up in a net “mask”... no treatment. If you want to put yourself at risk fine. You have no right to risk others. Your life isn’t that valuable.

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Even here you will have people endlessly repeating that there is no real danger from the pandemic,

There is a danger, but it's much lower than initially thought. And for young people it is less dangerous than the flu.

that doctors and scientist hide effective drugs even from their own families or that medical advice based on science is just an overblown media campaign of misinformation.

You mean like the importance of vitamin D and yes, even the effectiveness of HCQ. I find it criminal that health authorities are not constantly telling everyone to increase their vitamin D.

More and more doctors are coming out though, unfortunately their voices are censored. I suspect many doctors do take better care of their families than their patients.

Irresponsibly repeating bad information because of ignorance would be bad enough, but some people are even worse and repeat things they know are false, trying actively to convince others of things even themselves no longer think are true.

Yeah, like saying all vaccines are perfectly fine and can do no harm (even before clinical trials are over). That is indeed irresponsible.

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Ignorance can be dangerous.

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There is a danger, but it's much lower than initially thought. And for young people it is less dangerous than the flu.

No, it is not, it only appears so because of the heavy cost social distancing measures, compare the letalithy rates for flu this year and the difference becomes obvious.

You mean like the importance of vitamin D and yes, even the effectiveness of HCQ. I find it criminal that health authorities are not constantly telling everyone to increase their vitamin D.

Yes, that kind of completely irrational fantasy based thing. Every comorbidity is already well known as a factor for covid-19 complication, that obviously includes malnutrition and dietary insufficiency. HCQ has not show any kind of advantage not dependent on bad selection of the patients, so what is irresponsable (and criminally so in some places) is to use it when there is no advantage and still risk of toxicity. Only people that cannot calculate doses still have the mistaken idea it works.

More and more doctors are coming out though, unfortunately their voices are censored. I suspect many doctors do take better care of their families than their patients.

A big part of fantasy conspiracies is that supposedly a lot of professionals support it, but they are always nameless people nobody hears about, While at the same time every single professional association of health workers in the world says exactly the opposite. That is not an argument is an excuse and can be discarded without problems.

Yeah, like saying all vaccines are perfectly fine and can do no harm (even before clinical trials are over). That is indeed irresponsible.

Compared with the natural infection? perfectly so. The rest is just a strawman, a non-argument nobody as ever said, but since the real one is too strong to even mention (in this case that vaccines are safer and less harmful than the infection, and by a huge lot) the fake argument is repeated as if it was something real, it is not.

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Fine. Refuse treatment to those who keep thinking the pandemic is a hoax. Don't start thinking you're going to get the same top-notch treatment the man-child received (thanks to tax-payers who have paid more than $750).

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