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92% of HPV-caused cancers could be prevented by vaccine: health authority

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By JOE RAEDLE

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Do you know why?

Read the whole comment, it is clearly explained there. Political popularity above the lives of people.

 There has been a lot of controversy about the HPV vaccine, and not all of it comes from anti-vax nutcases. We should ensure that the benefits outweigh the risks.

It already been done, the scientific consensus is that the benefits hugely outweighs all realistically possible risks. People that insist on discredited vague "risks" even after it has been explained to them with scientific data that can be corroborated can validly be categorized as irrational antivaxxers.

How do you compare a one-in-million chance of contracting Guillain-Barré syndrome from the vaccination (WHO figures), with an 80 in one million chance of contracting cervical cancer and a 20 in one million chance of dying from that cancer? 

Easily, by demonstrating that people that have not been vaccinated also have the same one in a million chances, so if you did not increased the risks in a detectable way but decrease the risk of death significantly the benefits outweight the risks. Not that this will stop people from repeating this falsified argument over and over again, its part of being antivaxxers

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28935469

What about an unquantified risk of suicidal tendencies among some people receiving the vaccine?

What about it? if its unquantified for all we know the vaccine is even protecting from suicide, right?

There is absolutely no evidence of any increase of death by any cause in vaccinated population when compared with unvaccinated people, that indicates that in order to use this argument you first need evidence that there is something going on first instead of just vague possibilities.

Howling about anti-vaxers is not science.

It can be, if you support it with data, test an hypothesis and report your methods,

Otherwise it can be just simple doing your civil duty, informing people so they don't have only to listen to the lies of people that care only about feeling superior even if that means putting others at risk.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14760584.2019.1584040

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Of course the CDC is to be trusted. ha ha ha Talk your own book. What BS !!

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And how much could be prevented by having safe sex?

HPV can still spread even when having safe sex.

Sex-ed 101.

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And how much could be prevented by having safe sex?

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UK statistics show 99.8% cases of cervical cancer are preventable. Vaccination is a part of that.

But that's quite unrelated to the numbers I provided of the risk of contracting cervical cancer in the first place. The info I found at the link below was " the incidence rate for cervical cancer was 8.1 cases per 100,000 women per year in the United States". I think that is equivalent to 80 in one million.

https://report.nih.gov/nihfactsheets/viewfactsheet.aspx?csid=76

I'm not an anti-vaxxer, quite the opposite. But I also like to be informed.

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with an 80 in one million chance of contracting cervical cancer

Not true. Anti-vaxxers always play fast and loose with facts.

UK statistics show 99.8% cases of cervical cancer are preventable. Vaccination is a part of that.

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Unfortunately in Japan this life saving vaccine has been another victim

Do you know why?

meaning that more than 32,100 cases could have been avoided annually.

This number needs to be compared to the number of serious side effects of those receiving the vaccine. Why not publish those numbers too? There has been a lot of controversy about the HPV vaccine, and not all of it comes from anti-vax nutcases. We should ensure that the benefits outweigh the risks.

How do you compare a one-in-million chance of contracting Guillain-Barré syndrome from the vaccination (WHO figures), with an 80 in one million chance of contracting cervical cancer and a 20 in one million chance of dying from that cancer? What about an unquantified risk of suicidal tendencies among some people receiving the vaccine?

Howling about anti-vaxers is not science.

Some info here:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5967601/

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Why can't older people get it?

Unless they have specific reasons (allergies, immune problems, current disease, etc.) anybody can, its simply not recommended because the benefits are much more limited. For example, older adults that are already infected with the virus will not have any advantage from being vaccinated. Since the vaccines cost money, the supply is still limited and there are always minimal risks its always better to prioritize applying them to the people that benefit the most first.

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Vaccinations are one of science's, and humanity's, greatest achievements. Anti-science peddlers, the religious and trolls directed by hostile governments are ignoring or distorting facts, wilfully causing death and long term disability. Anti-vaxxers are the enemy within.

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Unfortunately in Japan this life saving vaccine has been another victim of the anti vaccination efforts. Antivaxxers don't really care that every year hundreds of women die unnecessarily from preventable cases of cancer with the use of a proven safe vaccine, irrational fear to vague "toxins" or "diseases" is enough to do as much as possible to convince other people to skip getting vaccinated.

And as always the Japanese government chooses to err on the side of excessive prudence and ends up costing lives. Officials don't seem to care that all medical associations in Japan are pushing for the government to recommend the vaccine again (or even subsidize it), as long as they can avoid being seen as "risk takers" politicians will let people die every year. Even the vague ghost of a few dozens of cases of supposed weakness or inespecific pain (that has been demonstrate to happen the same without the vaccine) is enough to justify a thousand deaths.

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