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Pfizer to seek OK for 3rd vaccine dose; shots still protect

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Excellent.

Line me up!

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After being vaccinated, would a mild infection be so bad? (assuming everyone who wants to be vaccinated has been vaccinated)

The virus is widely expected to be endemic now, so we'll need to learn to live with it.

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With the evidence available at the moment there seem to be no real need to a booster for people with normally working immunity. The company can try to get approval as much as they want, but if the people are no longer in risk of heavy complications it would be very unlikely for the authorities to grant it. Specially because the vaccine doses are still needed for people without protection.

Unless new evidence comes up the priority is to vaccinate unprotected people, if possible reach herd immunity and then see if the variants are still a problem. By that time, if boosters are proven to be necessary, simpler versions of the vaccine can be developed and tested by any laboratory or country that already produces vaccines without much problem.

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I'm in the 25% group who didn't have any noticeable symptoms after the 2nd Pfizer shot. The rest of the family all got fairly sick (in the other 75% group). If the 3rd shot costs $35 or less, I'd pay to get it. If it costs more and insurance doesn't cover it, then I'd go without. Being slightly sick for a few days is fine. I haven't been "sick" in about 25 yrs and the last time was some sort of food poisoning that was gone the following day. If annual boosters are recommended to stay out of hospital, then I'll get the annual booster.

My friends and family are all back to normal lives post-vaccination. We aren't taking any extra protections anymore. All our adult kids are vaccinated too - including 1 who is pregnant.

Being fully vaccinated with one of the mRNA vaccines really does let us sleep well at night. Just lucky, but thankful.

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I am glad I didnt get the first 2 shots. What a nightmare. People are going to have to get shots for the rest of their lives.

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@Leo

This... makes no sense to me. They're still much less likely than unvaccinated people to get sick. People get flu shots every year, too. It's not like if they don't get a booster they're going to have any more problems than someone who never got any vaccine at all. It's only an improvement, so I don't understand why this information would make someone glad not to have gotten one before.

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Pfizer is doing this strictly for humanitarian reasons, not the $billions more they would stand to make.

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“They're still much less likely than unvaccinated people to get sick.”

Everyone I know who's had a flu jab has since caught the flu. I’ve never had a jab and haven’t had the flu for 12 years.

And there are those who’ve had Covid jabs and gotten Covid.

Not buying it

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emergency use authorization number 2

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@Christopher: Do you know of anyone that has gotten polio?

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“This rapid rise is troubling,” she said: A few weeks ago the delta variant accounted for just over a quarter of new U.S. cases, but it now accounts for just over 50% — and in some places, such as parts of the Midwest, as much as 80%.

It's troubling if you're trying to sell snake oil to a public that's gradually realizing the latest variant is less dangerous than the previous ones, and so deciding not to take an unnecessary risk when they can see vaccine-related deaths and injuries rising with few hospitalizations and deaths from the virus itself.

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I’m fully vaccinated now but will still wear a mask in the near future , do not want to get it at all !

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Hell yes, why not a third, a fourth and a fifth as long as I stay FREE and get to go were ever I want.

-2 ( +0 / -2 )

It goes without saying, if a third shot is needed so soon, indicates the so-called vaccine doesn't really work,or is good for only a minute.

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Pfizer is doing this strictly for humanitarian reasons, not the $billions more they would stand to make

The wtf of yesterday for sure.Unless you chose not to to add you were being sarcastic.Everyone wants Pfizer.They're a business and clearly you're not in business with that fairytale thought.

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virusrex

Yes they are, vaccines do not have to be absolutely risk free to be much less risky than the infection, even for young people without comorbidities.

Well, fact is, the side effects from these experimental mRNA vaccines are off the chart, see here:

https://trialsitenews.com/should-you-get-vaccinated/

And here is look at publicly available data from Israel (the most thoroughly vaccinated country in the world):

https://doi.org/10.3390/vaccines9070693

Conclusion of the authors: Statistically the mRNA vaccines cause 2 deaths for every 3 deaths they prevent. That is a risk you might want to take or not, but it is not a clear-cut decision as the corporate media keeps telling us.

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It goes without saying

...he starts, going on to say anyways:

if a third shot is needed so soon, indicates the so-called vaccine doesn't really work,or is good for only a minute.

No, that's not what it indicates.

You probably should have stopped at 'it goes without saying'. Now you just look so silly for making what you clearly think is smart conclusion, while being wrong.

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Well, fact is, the side effects from these experimental mRNA vaccines are off the chart, see here

That is false, since the important side effects are still the same as unvaccinated people they are obviously not vaccine related.

And here is look at publicly available data from Israel (the most thoroughly vaccinated country in the world):

This is in your source:

The journal retracts the article, The Safety of COVID-19 Vaccinations—We Should Rethink the Policy [1], cited above.

Serious concerns were brought to the attention of the publisher regarding misinterpretation of data, leading to incorrect and distorted conclusions.

The article was evaluated by the Editor-in-Chief with the support of several Editorial Board Members. They found that the article contained several errors that fundamentally affect the interpretation of the findings.

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"Well, fact is, the side effects from these experimental mRNA vaccines are off the chart"

That is false, since the important side effects are still the same as unvaccinated people they are obviously not vaccine related.

That is obviously false, the important side effects are much more frequent than all other vaxes put together over the past decades. The side effects are off the charts.

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That is obviously false, the important side effects are much more frequent than all other vaxes put together over the past decades. The side effects are off the charts.

Again, that can be easily explained by the scale of the vaccination and the target population.

The lack of increase compared with the non-vaccinated population is a reason you have not yet been able to explain and proves that even if the side-effects were higher they would not be related to the vaccine.

Trying to ignore this reason that makes your explanation false do not make it disappear, it only shows that you can't refute it.

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