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© Copyright 2022 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without permission.Americans give health care system failing mark: poll
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painkiller
RiskyMosaicToday 10:39 am JST
There's no consultation in the ER.
ER doctor to unconscious automobile accident patient:
"Well, Mr. Wigglesby, how often do you exercise? Are you taking any medications? Do you have any allergies? How long have you felt like this? When was your last check-up?"
painkiller
RiskyMosaicToday 10:05 am JST
I'll be even clearer---you misunderstood a basic sentence.
Me too.
There's no consultation in the ER.
painkiller
RiskyMosaicToday 08:41 am JST
That's the way it works in the US. Happy though you relied on me for that info.
But I don't think that. And so I don't have some reading to do. You misread something I guess.
I don't know. That's a different issue. I only mentioned emergency treatment.
Good luck. You'll learn about triage too.
I think you have some reading to do.
wallace
Total Expenses for All U.S. Hospitals $1,213,881,001,000
Expenses for Community Hospitals $1,102,282,383,000
wallace
National referendums in America. There is no referendum law and therefore not binding.
Treatment in an ER is limited to providing emergency treatment only. Maybe a public hospital might provide a little more.
painkiller
RiskyMosaicToday 08:08 am JST
Cannot happen
How doesn't my point stand? There can't be a national referendum.
But if anyone needs emergency medical care in the US hospitals will provide it at no cost to that individual.
Why would there be a bill for something provided at no cost?
painkiller
RiskyMosaicSep. 16 07:39 pm JST
Cannot happen. But if anyone needs emergency medical care in the US hospitals will provide it at no cost to that individual.
nishikat
Let's see, living Japan while paying for health insurance in both USA and Japan. If you are a self employed upper earner in Japan you will pay around 1,000,000 yen per. And if you are self employed in the USA you (adjusted for USD-- JPY exchange) pay at least 1,500,000 yen per year. That comes to about 2,500,000 yen per year to pay for both US and JP health insurance. Who on earth would do that?
nishikat
In Japan? Everyone pays. Premiums are also cheaper pretty much for the same stuff as in USA. In Japan you are forced to pay
bass4funk
The left keeps saying that and yet, it was never implemented because if they did, the country would become another Venezuela. Again, over 80% of Americans that have and use their employee or private insurance don't want the left to go anywhere near it and are happy with theirs.
If this thing is so good then why NO ONE in congress or their families are using it? They wouldn't and know they wouldn't.
So who's going to pay? I don't want to pay for someone or anyone else except my own family.
painkiller
RedstormToday 12:14 pm JST
Oh, so no problem, if this is true, as America is a democracy, so the people will vote for that change.
bass4funk
Biden?
Ok, passing the usual baseless and meaningless rant, the Republicans never wanted and never should have been duped by the left to get caught in any negotiations on healthcare. If Obama wanted to provide government subsidized healthcare to 30 million people, no problem, the real problem is that the Dems want to cancel out private healthcare insurance as well and if Obamacare were so great then why is that none of these Congress people in Washington use it?
Yes, it very much is.
He had no choice, he worked with an all Democrat legislative assembly, not to mention, Arnie is nowhere anywhere close to being a conservative, never was.
bass4funk
Not just from me, 88% of Americans that have company provided private healthcare insurance.
If you think so, ok…"
Yes, what works well for one country doesn’t always work well in another.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/06/29/obamacare-subsidies-expire-disaster-democrats/
yamada1043
The most expensive health system in the world does not equate with the best health care!
nishikat
It's funny Trump people who live in Japan say this. If it was so bad I would go back to the US permanently.
starpunk
Since when can anyone rely on that lying fascist? He had no plan whatsoever. Everything in America was to enhance his bloated stinking ego. He just wanted a 'Trumpcare' at the very best. Everything with his delusions-of-godhood name on it. That's called a personality CULT.
Socialized medicine is not a partisan issue. The Governator Schwarzeneggar tried to impose it for California, and he was in the GOP.
nishikat
Medicare and Medicaid work fine. In fact Medicaid works much better to pay for catastrophic health emergencies then private insurers.
You can't use Medicare in Japan. And you can't give it up until you die. So it should be Medicare for all.
US has great government computer infrastructure. Some of the best in the world and it will work. I studied Policy Science in university and we went over this.
Good point. Lots of American patients are stupid and watch too much TV and believe what they see instead of taking a walk or munching on broccoli.
ClippetyClop
We hear this often from you. Sensible solutions won't work in the US. The people of the USA are immune to solutions. We don't want European solutions because we're not European. We want to keep our current inept system in place, because it's ours.
With their chronic health, drugs, violence, obesity, mental and TV-fuelled hypochondria issues it would cost the govt countless billions to implement a sensible solution. This might mean that Americans might have to put public health before an enormous military culture.
The hospitals would be full of folks demanding that doctors fix the things that the they saw on TV last night.
Garthgoyle
Ha! Worst medical INSURANCE system in the world. As for medical tech, it's a pretty good one. Just not for not-rich people, which would be more than half the population there.
Peter14
One area the US is behind much of the world. No universal health care system. No insurance = turned away and no medical care in many hospitals. Terrible costs for common necessary medications. People buying medicines in Canada or Mexico or online to try to get cheap prices.
Those with millions in the bank or top line health insurance have no problems. For everyone else it is nothing but problems.
I am thankful I live in a country with universal health care and subsidized medicines for many many medications.
The US has a long way to go to get to worlds best practice level of medical care for its citizens.
bass4funk
No, it doesn't and would never work in the US, especially the way that the Dems are spending money like a drunken sailor to take care of 65 million people. Never will happen.
Then find a way to fix it for THOSE people that cannot afford it, no need to touch my private insurance, I have a great plan and I don't want to give it up.
Not quite exactly, the Dems are looking for a way to cancel your private health insurance.
With different population sizes, the amount of debt, hours worked, and time is taken off, what works well in one country doesn't necessarily work well in another.
jeancolmar
The for profit American medical scare system is the primary reason I avoid the U.S. as much as I possibly can.
nishikat
Obamacare did have the public option. Also, they did propose to raise medical compensation to doctors and hospitals for Medicaid claims. Both of those shot down by the Republicans. TrumpCare took it even further backwards because Trump hated Obama because Obama made fun of Trump at the The White House Correspondents' Dinner. Any person, even Trump people living in Japan realize that everyone has to pay for medical coverage. It has to have a real mandate and you can't just "choose" because you think you might never need it then "choose" it later when you suddenly need chemotherapy. The Trump party is anti-mandate and many of these Trump people are old and have Medicare which is a mandate. I don't get it. They don't want a mandate, but are in a system (Medicare) that is mandated.
FizzBit
Been saying this for more than 25 years, the US will need some sort of government healthcare insurance system or the like. Egged to do it now rather than later as the two parties are getting reeled in by the corporations more and more. Voted for the Natural Law Party and Ralph Nader to see this happen. All efforts were squashed by Reps and Dems. Cracks me up to see folks defend and vote for the Dems thinking they will change anything substantial. They are just as joined at the hip to the corporations as the Reps. Anyone who say different is goofy for “the party”.
Nothing has changed except the Dems seem to be ramping up the war machine more than I imagined.
englisc aspyrgend
The involvement of insurance companies in the provision of any countries health care provision is a fundamental mistake. Provision of health care must be centred on need, insurance is based on profit.
Talk about state capture, the insurance/medical industry corrupted and controlled the provision of health care in the USA so long ago that generations have been propagandised in to believing there is no other possible way and any alternative suggestion is “communism” coming to get you. Meanwhile untold numbers of US citizens die of what should be easily treated diseases simply because they have not got enough money to help boost profits.
nishikat
If the US had "socialized" healthcare, Michael Jackson would probably still be alive. Also all these universal healthcare counties also have private hospitals where rich terminal patients (including rich Americans who might cross the Atlantic (and in some cases cross the Pacific including Japan) for something exotic and not available in the US) can try to shoot for the moon with desperate and expensive procedures you might see in Star Trek, but more than likely still die.
wtfjapan
The impression I get is there is no healthcare in America.
affordable healthcare, heathcare debt is the leading cause of bankruptcy in the US
wtfjapan
I thought Obamacare fixed this?
not when the republcians wanted to gut it,
Trumps healthcare plan was due in 2 weeks, that was 3 years ago
starpunk
Obamacare is not the 'socialized medicine' many people think or say it is. It's not extensive enough but it IS a cornerstone of what America needs. It's a start. TrashTrump wanted to abolish it but we all know he's a racist. He tried to undo everything Obama did. You see, trump and his cohorts are too chicken to admit their racism so they made up birther theories, rumors and tried to undo his achievements because having a Black American POTUS before him is too much to bear.
Kaerimashita
I thought Obamacare fixed this?
starpunk
Healthcare for most Americans is a sorry mess. Employers have to have the insurance but most of the time it's not very good. The biggest problem isn't the 'Obamacare' scare, it's that that word and 'socialism' are scary boogeyman words to get those ignorant Pavlov Dog types to yap their chops all the time. And once again, they can't shut up about it and open their minds.
So many people in the US are like robots. They're fooled by these lippy chumps in the media, believing all they're told. Yet the biggest problem of all is that too many people in the health insurance field just don't want to do the WORK.
Sanjinosebleed
When it is cheaper to fly to Cuba to get medicine than buy it is the US there is obviously something "rotten in the state of denmark"!
Numan
The problem is not all healthcare is the same in the US. If you have the money then the US has the best healthcare system in the world. If you do not then it can be ranked below some third world countries.
wallace
Universal healthcare provides the best service for the majority of people. 40 million Americans cannot afford basic healthcare.
In addition, people can still have private healthcare insurance if they want it.
In the UK and other European countries, there are both and in Japan too.