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Attacking birth control pills, U.S. influencers push misinformation

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It's disturbing the way conservatives are infiltrating the "wellness" industry to push their agenda of control over women's bodies and control over the minds of others who are lacking in critical thinking skills.

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It's disturbing the way conservatives are infiltrating the "wellness" industry to push their agenda of control over women's bodies and control over the minds of others who are lacking in critical thinking skills.

But liberals want to overall control the nation on wealth, health, who lives and who dies, babies have no values rights or meaning, no need for rational or logical thinking, pure emotion is enough, I find that very disturbing.

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Evangelicals, lacking any sort of historical basis to their religion, have nothing left but to politicize it until we are living in a fundamentalist hellhole.

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It's disturbing the way conservatives are infiltrating the "wellness" industry to push their agenda

But hardly surprising, when a significant portion of the people on both groups share a systematic rejection of scientific conclusions for personal profit it is natural for them to mix and share objectives.

But liberals want to overall control the nation

That makes absolutely no sense, if one side is about giving options and the other is about taking them away (or misleading people into rejecting safe and effective options) the argument of "control" can only be used validly against the second group. It is as easy as finding out which one has the support of the scientific experts on the field, be it reproductive rights, climate change, the pandemic, etc.

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But liberals want to overall control the nation

That makes absolutely no sense,

It not make sense it is the truth.

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It not make sense it is the truth.

It does not make sense as the arguments readily proved, arguments against which you could not do anything against, and being nonsensical it is clear it is not true.

In order to say this is not so you would require to argue, specifically how those that want to give options to the people are supposedly trying to control the people by doing so, if you can't then the only logical option is to accept it makes no sense.

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It does not make sense as the arguments readily proved, arguments against which you could not do anything against, and being nonsensical it is clear it is not true.

As you acknowledge your misunderstanding by saying it does not make sense, that proves more for the opposite view.

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It's frankly dystopian that we have come around again to arguing the merits of the birth-control pill. Women are entitled to make decisions about whether they use it, based on ethical and scientific considerations, not religious or conspiracy-laden twaddle, just like they are entitled to make any other decisions about their bodies. Only conservatives, knowing their beliefs are wholly unconvincing - even to themselves - want to force themselves on other people and their families with the vain hope that once everyone believes the same rubbish, they will be vindicated. Then they claim "liberals" are the ones doing the forcing. It would be comical if it were not so perverse.

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As you acknowledge your misunderstanding by saying it does not make sense, that proves more for the opposite view.

The opposite, the one recognizing a misunderstanding would be you that were unable to even argument, my position is clear and valid, giving control is not congruent with the accusation of trying to be in control, therefore the accusation is nonsensical and safe to disregard. No argument against it? that means you are recognizing thinking otherwise is wrong.

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MEGA supporters argue that abortions would not be necessary if women use contraceptives, and now they want to take that option away too. The GOP aims to eliminate women's rights to control their bodies. Many of them are anti-vaxxers and claim "their bodies, their choice" regarding the COVID-19 vaccine. All women should have the right to make decisions about their bodies, and any medical decisions should be made between them and their physicians.

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The opposite, the one recognizing a misunderstanding would be you that were unable to even argument, my position is clear and valid, giving control is not congruent with the accusation of trying to be in control, therefore the accusation is nonsensical and safe to disregard. No argument against it? that means you are recognizing thinking otherwise is wrong.

No, because as you stated, "It does not make sense".

It makes sense to everyone else though.

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No, because as you stated, "It does not make sense".

Not only stated, but demonstrated it with arguments, arguments that you could not even address, much less refute.

It makes sense to everyone else though.

Well, you could not even argue how it could make sense to claim people offering options are supposedly trying to control people, that demonstrate the opposite, it is still a nonsensical claim.

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All women should have the right to make decisions about their bodies

Agreed.....but not someone else's body. An unborn baby is a separate human being with its own DNA and gender.

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Anti-vaxxers are working overtime these days. It is foolish to depend on Tik Tok for news but at the same time the younger generation in their mid 20s and younger may believe everything they hear because they don't want to talk to their friends and family on things that are that personal. But long story short is don't take medical advice from someone who hasn't done 10 years of med school with multiple certifications..

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Concerned Citizen

All women should have the right to make decisions about their bodies

> Agreed.....but not someone else's body. An unborn baby is a separate human being with its own DNA and gender.

It is not separate until it is born and survives using its organs.

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Women have taken the birth pill for more than 50 years. But for many women in many countries, they have no access to them.

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The story is not really about abortion. It's amazing that loons want to muddy the waters about and even restrict the contraceptive pill but then restrict or ban abortions too. This looks like a deliberate attempt at control of women's bodies. The women who have been co-opted into this should be ashamed of themselves.

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Let information be free, regardless if it is true or false. The last thing a free society needs is a ministry of truth.

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wallace

MEGA supporters argue that abortions would not be necessary if women use contraceptives, and now they want to take that option away too. The GOP aims to eliminate women's rights to control their bodies.

That is definitely misinformation. However, I defend your right to spread it.

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Let information be free, regardless if it is true or false. 

Criminals of all types would readily support this, but part of the positive consequences of social progress is that we now understand that letting people fool and mislead others for personal profit is not something worth protecting. The false dichotomy of "everything should be allowed or else nothing would be allowed" is of course obviously invalid, when people choose to lie in order to take advantage of others they should be made responsible for their actions and punished.

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One thing strange about this article and the response is: where are the usually vocal women in defence of their rights and interests? This feels like a sausage-fest.

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This is all part of the same anti-science extreme right nonsense that gave us both anti-vax but also the ending of Roe V Wade. One of the Supreme Court justices, a corrupt religious extremist called Clarence Thomas in his ruling said that he felt that the principle could also apply to contraception and that it was not a personal right but a matter for state law.

But liberals want to overall control the nation on wealth, health, who lives and who dies, babies have no values rights or meaning, no need for rational or logical thinking, pure emotion is enough, I find that very disturbing.

And this response illustrates this point. The immediate response from the MAGA right to contraception misinformation by right-wing conspiracy theorists is "but liberals want...(followed by yet more confused misinformation)".

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But liberals want to overall control ...

Then they're not liberals.

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Mentioned nowhere in the article is that oral contraceptives can increase your chance of getting breast cancer!

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Breast cancer: taking the combined pill slightly increases the risk of breast cancer compared to people who do not take it. Ten years after stopping the pill, a person's risk is no longer increased – as if the pill was never used.

https://www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/causes-of-cancer/hormones-and-cancer/does-the-contraceptive-pill-increase-cancer-risk#:~:text=Breast%20cancer%3A%20taking%20the%20combined,the%20pill%20was%20never%20used.

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Not only stated, but demonstrated it with arguments, arguments that you could not even address, much less refute.

As an outside observer, no, you have not demonstrated anything. Well . . .

And no need to take these toxic pills. Just practice good common sense.

Why take these risks??

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Why take these risks??

I mean by that logic, why take any risk? The answer is the same for all risk - because the reward is worth the risk.

Sex is great. Unless you're a puritan of course, then it's something to feel guilty about.

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Conservative commentator Candace Owens suggested on TikTok that birth control causes infertility problems

Is this a typo? Should it be “fertility problems”?

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"And since a man can't make one

He has no right to tell a woman when and where to create one"

What? Men can’t make babies? Maybe my sex education is a little dated but I’m pretty sure men play an important role when it comes to making babies

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I mean by that logic, why take any risk?

False equivalency.

The answer is the same for all risk - because the reward is worth the risk.

There is no need to take the risks with these toxic drugs, and the rewards can be had without taking those drugs.

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ZaphodMay 17 03:25 pm JST

Let information be free, regardless if it is true or false. The last thing a free society needs is a ministry of truth.

In an age of social media, disinformation also deserves to be color coded and de-emphasized to oblivion to protect the low information reader.

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I mean by that logic, why take any risk?

False equivalency.

Equivalent equivalency. Remember, I also gave the answer to the question I asked:

The answer is the same for all risk - because the reward is worth the risk.

There is no need to take the risks with these toxic drugs.

There's no need to take any risks in life. We choose to because the reward is worth the risk.

the rewards can be had without taking those drugs.

Risking an unwanted child. For the people taking the drugs, the risk of birth control is worth the lowering of the risk of unwanted children.

If women want to take these drugs, that's their choice? Or do you think that you should have the final say over women's bodies?

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gcFd1Today 01:22 am JST

the rewards can be had without taking those drugs.

Oh really, you have your own birth control pills that are safer?

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I don't know but my wife took monthly birth control pills for a few months and realized it was doing no good to hear (and less harmful ones were much pricier).

Then we did it the natural way and condoms with hardly no issue : 3 wished kids exactly when we wanted and no abortion. We are not like rabbits but still good sex over some 15 years.

So my suggestion is to avoid the pill and be respectful of women.

Medication has always side effects, and shall not be considered outside to cure you, not just bring comfort.

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This article is the misinformation. Anything unnatural causes harm to the body. People are not supposed to use pills as a “patch” for lack of self control. Family life, marriage breakdown in society is caused by people thinking that self must reign and that they can do whatever they want without consequences. The dignity of man has been damaged by this birth control mentality and Japan’s aging society is paying for it.

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Medication has always side effects

yes many women use the pill to regulate their menstruation.

Do you feel that your feelings on the pill have more weight than these wormen?

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Jonathan PrinToday 04:46 am JST

Medication has always side effects, and shall not be considered outside to cure you, not just bring comfort.

Sounds like a fine choice for you but others may decide differently.

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Jonathan PrinToday 04:46 am JST

Medication has always side effects, and shall not be considered outside to cure you, not just bring comfort.

Also medications don't always cure you but often only have palliative effects.

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Anything unnatural causes harm to the body. People are not supposed to use pills as a “patch” for lack of self control. 

Only puritans think they need to control themselves from having sex. Don’t expect us to live by your religious extremism. Sex is good and not something to be self controlled.

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CalejToday 05:37 am JST

Anything unnatural causes harm to the body.

I trust you refrain from alcohol and red meat as well.

The dignity of man has been damaged by this birth control mentality and Japan’s aging society is paying for it.

I'm glad you are prepared for a Handmaid's Tale country but the rest of us aren't.

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Only puritans think they need to control themselves from having sex. Don’t expect us to live by your religious extremism. Sex is good and not something to be self controlled.

The puritans are trying to take over. The religious right is a growing force, particularly in the US.

But they won't initially assert their beliefs openly, but instead try to do it through some roundabout way, such as the health impact of the drugs on women. The posts above show this clearly.

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People seeking reliable information about contraception are met with internet personalities overemphasizing the side effects of pills.

There's an overemphasizing of a personal opinion.

Not only stated, but demonstrated it with arguments, arguments that you could not even address, much less refute.

Nice and circular.

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Breast cancer: taking the combined pill slightly increases the risk of breast cancer compared to people who do not take it. Ten years after stopping the pill, a person's risk is no longer increased – as if the pill was never used.

@Wallace A 20-30% increase in risk is not slight!

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If women want to take these drugs, that's their choice? Or do you think that you should have the final say over women's bodies?

Good. This is what conservatives cannot seem to get through to their heads: we make our own choices based on rational choices and our own morality. And why should it be any other way? Along with social conservatism, they are often also capitalist/market fundamentalists who in no way want anyone interfering with their "free choice" about what to produce and buy. And within the Christian context, if we make the wrong choice, god will punish us anyway, so why insist we do what they want. It's our free choice about our punishment. So, back off with your insistence on our conformity to your beliefs, or maybe we will begin to believe you have big doubts about it all yourself.

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mountainpearToday 11:10 am JST

@Wallace A 20-30% increase in risk is not slight!

It's also no reason to ban things. What does menopause do to your risk of breast cancer?

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MEGA supporters argue that abortions would not be necessary if women use contraceptives,

A bit out of context.

and now they want to take that option away too.

BS! No, they don’t, they want the states to decide.

The GOP aims to eliminate women's rights to control their bodies.

That is the worst political leftist lie

Many of them are anti-vaxxers and claim "their bodies, their choice" regarding the COVID-19 vaccine.

Yes, but it’s just me, I’m not carrying a life with me, I’m just helping or hurting myself

All women should have the right to make decisions about their bodies, and any medical decisions should be made between them and their physicians.

Well, to an extent, but once there is another life involved, one that is defenseless then the question should be asked, what about that child’s life?

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Good. This is what conservatives cannot seem to get through to their heads: we make our own choices based on rational choices and our own morality. And why should it be any other way? Along with social conservatism, they are often also capitalist/market fundamentalists who in no way want anyone interfering with their "free choice" about what to produce and buy. And within the Christian context, if we make the wrong choice, god will punish us anyway, so why insist we do what they want. It's our free choice about our punishment. So, back off with your insistence on our conformity to your beliefs, or maybe we will begin to believe you have big doubts about it all yourself.

We get it, but I think if you are just responsible, you don’t have to worry about getting pregnant, as long as both sides are careful and responsible. Then no abortion in that sense would need to be performed.

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The GOP aims to eliminate women's rights to control their bodies.

That is the worst political leftist lie

High level members of the GOP have called for a nationwide ban on abortion.

This is fact. Not leftist spin.

The GOP is has no intention of stopping their War on Women.

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The GOP is has no intention of stopping their War on Women.

That garbage run ad is just ludicrous

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Abortion is the winning issue.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2024/02/29/americans-top-policy-priority-for-2024-strengthening-the-economy/

Not when it comes to the average American and their wallets.

And Biden is ahead by 11 million. 

Where? What data?

stateshttps://www.realclearpolling.com/elections/president/2024/battleground-states

https://news.gallup.com/poll/644750/confidence-biden-economic-stewardship-historically-low.aspx

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@TaiwanIsNotChina I never said anything about banning anything! I just said it wasn't mentioned in the article! Wallace seems to think a 20-30% risk is slight and if you stop taking them the risk disappears! But you don't just take it when you feel like it! That's not how it works! And some women are taking the pill for over 40 years of their life!

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and now they [the GOP] want to take that option [contraception] away too.

> BS! No, they don’t, they want the states to decide.

If the States decide to take away the right to contraception, then they are taking away that right. And we know that the only states that will do this are Republican.

Your post shows that regulating contraception is now rising on the MAGA extremist agenda. It isn't just cranks like Clarence Thomas.

Now that they have the right to abortion eroded, they are going after contraception. In die course, women will be baby factories raising 8 children, because that's what the evangelical right wants to impose on everyone.

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