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Countries with lower-than-expected vaccination rates show unusually negative attitudes to vaccines

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In most developed countries – including the U.S. – many individuals are refusing vaccines even though vaccines are plentiful and easy to access.

Maybe because even those who receive the vaccination still become infected with Covid, and suffer considerably.

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Places with low vaccination rates for some bizarre reason also have a negative opinion about vaccines?

Wow, I never would have guessed that!. This is major ground-breaking research!

I mean, the discovery of this correlation between two concepts that are otherwise completely un-related utterly blows my mind!

Certainly deserves a Nobel Prize.

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Maybe because even those who receive the vaccination still become infected with Covid, and suffer considerably.

Since the rates of disease, hospitalization, complications and deaths are greatly reduced in vaccinated people this is still an illogical reason. People also die in traffic accidents even when wearing seatbelts, this of course is a terribly poor reason to think negatively about them.

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Those successful mass vaccinations and those leading to herd immunity (which was still theoretically possible in the first phase), that was of course an illusion right from the beginning. Now the ideology and propaganda has quickly switched to ‘living with the viruses’ and happily suffering one wave after the next for saving all those involved in that pandemic mismanagement their a*es.

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Since the rates of disease, hospitalization, complications and deaths are greatly reduced in vaccinated people this is still an illogical reason. People also die in traffic accidents even when wearing seatbelts, this of course is a terribly poor reason to think negatively about them.

It doesn't matter if it is illogical or not--it could be a reason why those people refuse vaccines.

Besides, your analogy doesn't make sense.

People who refuse the vaccine might never get Covid and therefore never get hospitalized because of it, and not have complications, and not die from it because ,again, they never got the disease.

Your "analogy" though requires people to wear seatbelts in the first place. But if they never got into a car then they would decide whether or not to wear the seatbelt, and they not die in a car accident.

But back to the original point--it is a fact that 40% of people in the US who caught Omicron were vaccinated. And hospitalization, complications and deaths from Omicron are much lower than from Delta, for example, so it makes sense if someone decides not to get a vaccine when there is no guarantee the vaccine protects them. They can focus on not catching the disease in the first place.

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The article focuses on mentions, emotions, and misinformation on social media, as if those who have a negative opinion of the current vaccines are wrong. They're not wrong; there are plenty of valid reasons to have a negative opinion of these vaccines. Social media also has top medical experts discussing real data on the lack of vaccine effectiveness and their side effects.

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Its mostly right wing bible belt communities in the US that have led the way in pushing the conspiracy theories against vaccination and the 'alternative therapies' Obviously with such a large amount of people from said communities living outside the USA and the fact that all the social media sites emanate from the US, its hardly surprising that the US not only leads the way in vaccine refusal but has suffered greatly for it.

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It doesn't matter if it is illogical or not--it could be a reason why those people refuse vaccines.

That is my point it is an illogical reason. If you could not understand an analogy you can always ask, it should be simple,

People not wearing seatbelts may never have accidents nor die because if it, so the analogy keeps being applicable.

And hospitalization, complications and deaths from Omicron are much lower than from Delta,

That does nothing to refute the fact that vaccinated people have lower rates than vaccinated people, no matter which variant is prevalent. Not getting a vaccine because there is no guarantee of 100% protection makes as much sense as refusing to wear seatbelts for the same reason, or refute any and all medical treatments, there is no such thing as 100% guarantee in medicine.

The article focuses on mentions, emotions, and misinformation on social media, as if those who have a negative opinion of the current vaccines are wrong.

If the reasons they use to refuse are illogical or can be demonstrated as false then they are wrong, it is their right to be wrong but that would not change the fact they are.

Social media also has top medical experts discussing real data on the lack of vaccine effectiveness and their side effects.

If you have to reduce yourself to use social media because the actual primary sources (scientific reports) do not support what you believe that is a clear sign that you understand the evidence proves the opposite of what you believe.

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Someone's tax money at work here

Universities are welfare programs for 'clever sillies' who can't do anything useful

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Universities are welfare programs for 'clever sillies' who can't do anything useful

lol. that figures

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They can focus on not catching the disease in the first place

Magic. You think of that all by yourself?

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Countries with highet-than-expected vaccination rates show unusually positive attitudes to vaccines

This is the other paper the good professor worked on with one of his other PhD students

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This conclusion is revealing:

Why it matters

Research shows that the more information about COVID-19 people are exposed to via social media, the less accurate their knowledge about COVID-19.

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Are there negative side effects, in any small amount, from simply wearing a seat belt when no accident occurs?

Are there any from the vaccine?

The analogy doesn’t hold.

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@Elvis is here: Ah. Interesting. That will be why I'm not on Twitter, Instagram or Facebook - I also don't watch YouTube unless its for an instructional video. I hadn't even heard of 'bitchute' for example or the word 'alt news' until I started coming across comments from anti-vaxxers.

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Oh - @Raw Beer. I don't believe that 'top medical experts' would have to resort to the quagmire of YouTube to get their message out. There are plenty of reputable medical publications which publish the correct information about the vaccines.

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After the second and third Pfizer shots, I had to use an inhaler to control asthma. Still, I would take the shots over again, if I had to. Four people on our block died from Covid, three of them my age. A brief bout of asthma is nothing compared to what those four people went through.

For the fourth shot I decided to go with Moderna. I had read that it is a good idea to mix up the shots. However, one day after the Modern shot I came down with severe symptoms of fatigue and joint pain. A covid test was negative. More than a month later, and I still have the severe symptoms. In the case of the fourth shot, if I could go back and do things over again, I would turn down the second booster shot.

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Someone's tax money at work here

Universities are welfare programs for 'clever sillies' who can't do anything useful

I find it odd that some people think ‘educated’ is a sick burn. Says a lot about them I suppose.

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it is a fact that 40% of people in the US who caught Omicron were vaccinated. And hospitalization, complications and deaths from Omicron are much lower than from Delta,

I don't that information alone is enough to form an opinion.

Regarding the 40% figure, what percentage of people in the US were vaccinated at the time? For example, if 80% were vaccinated, then from my quick calculation, the unvaccinated were six times more likely to catch Omicron. Regarding complications and deaths, while serious cases may be lower with Omicron, what is the difference in serious cases between the vaccinated and unvaccinated?

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