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Even mild coronavirus illness may confer some immunity: study

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By Tiziana FABI

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This was expected just by looking at the epidemiological data, people that become positive for virus antibodies after having mild or no symptoms do not go and develop the full disease later even if they are in frequent contact with patients, still the laboratory confirmation is a very welcome data.

As mentioned, it is important to see how those levels are kept in the future, but it is also important to understand that even if those antibodies disappear it does not have to mean the person will become sick again, there are other mechanisms of adaptive immunity different from antibodies that can protect, and once produced for the first time antibodies can very quickly increase again if the virus enters the body again and prevent the development of disease.

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Our neighbor was in the hospital for six weeks, and then in a recovery facility, in isolation, for another two weeks.

He was intubated for about a week and a half, and in a coma for four days. He is in his fifties. While he was in the quarantine ICU ward, two people died, both younger than he.

A local librarian and his wife both died. She was tested and came up positive. He was never tested, because tests were hard to come by at that time, so he is not part of the official statistics of the dead.

Just saying, the early lockdown here in California has been effective in reducing the numbers of infected, but those who have gotten sick have been very sick indeed, in many cases.

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Totally fog of war at this point... so many studies, so many different theories, and the CCP has never provided the source information about patient zero.

It seems clear at this point is the best we can do is take extra care of vulnerable groups (obese, diabetic etc) and otherwise let the countries return to normality. This open ended shutdown has to stop.

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and otherwise let the countries return to normality

I agree that we are in a fog at the moment. But shouldn't we start to think whether we need a new kind of normal rather just returning to our old ways? I'm thinking of things such as huge offices packed into large city centers, large supermarkets and shopping centers, and basically the tendency over time of causing us to come into contact with ever larger numbers of other people. No easy task, but perhaps we should try and point things in a better direction.

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Totally fog of war at this point... so many studies, so many different theories, and the CCP has never provided the source information about patient zero.

Most theories are simply about something being considered slightly more important than others, there is no contradictory explanations based on objective data, confusion only comes if you are listening to the people that do not care about preventing cases.

Also, outside of bad disaster movies patient zero have absolutely no importance of how to deal with a pandemic. It would give no useful information at this point and it is never even considered possible to find.

It seems clear at this point is the best we can do is take extra care of vulnerable groups (obese, diabetic etc) and otherwise let the countries return to normality. This open ended shutdown has to stop.

That is the point precisely, there is no realistic way to protect vulnerable groups from contagion if you have a couple of million cases that can transmit the disease to them and appear completely healthy. People that have to take care of vulnerable patients, that deliver their goods, that clean and transport them, etc. etc. It becomes certain they will get the infection at some point and they will not even have place left in the hospitals for them. Because patients not considered vulnerable are going to be dying there.

Keeping social distancing as much as possible means those vulnerable people can get infected only by one of the few hundred asymptomatic carriers going around, that is a much more reasonable thing to prevent.

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