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Flu season worsens as 44 U.S. states report high activity

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Flu shots ! COVID shots !!

Roll up ! Roll up ! Get your shots!!

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Flu shots are recommended for nearly all Americans who are at least 6 months old or older.

Being vaccinated can be the difference between having a couple of miserable days or requiring hospitalization (or worse). Depending on the location the prevalent variant can be quite dangerous.

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The terrible effects of draconian lockdowns which caused even more obesity and lower fitness levels. The social distancing and mask wearing ensured people did not given catch colds, now their immune systems have been weakened and we see the ghastly results.

what is the solution according to the ‘experts”? More vaccines of course, even for babies. No mention of weight loss, diet or exercise or even vitamin D during winter months especially for the darker skinned people

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The terrible effects of draconian lockdowns which caused even more obesity and lower fitness levels.

Lockdowns had never required for people to become obese or lower their fitness, that is all in the way people choose to use the lockdowns as an excuse to let themselves go.

The social distancing and mask wearing ensured people did not given catch colds, now their immune systems have been weakened and we see the ghastly results.

As long as you can't prove the benefits from the distancing measures your criticism is invalid. People were able to survive thanks to those measures, so the increase of risk is still a cost that do not surpass the benefit.

what is the solution according to the ‘experts”? More vaccines of course, even for babies.

And what is the solution according to you? let people get hospitalized, complicated or die? Vaccines are an excellent way to reduce the risk of infectious diseases, letting people protect themselves and be much more likely to survive.

No mention of weight loss, diet or exercise or even vitamin D during winter months especially for the darker skinned people

All those things (and others) are well promoted measures that people are endlessly recommended to practice even without the risk of influenza, vaccines are just the pinpoint specific measure that applies for influenza in particular. The best thing? that vaccination can be done with all the other general recommendations without any problem.

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As long as you can't prove the benefits from the distancing measures your criticism is invalid. People were able to survive thanks to those measures, so the increase of risk is still a cost that do not surpass the benefit.

Especially the distancing measures, which were evident in the lockdowns in China, Taiwan, Vietnam, Australia, NZ, the UK---all which produced a lower infection rate than every other country. But when Australia and NZ lifted those measure the rates zoomed skyward.

While China had the lowest levels in the world according to global experts, which are easy to find through basic research (including those here not in the science or medical professions).

Health officials said Friday that 7.5% of outpatient medical visits last week were due to flu-like illnesses. That's as high as the peak of the 2017-18 flu season and higher than any season since.

Another reason flu is being detected in high numbers is because people are recognizing the Covid vaccines did not provide for a dead end to transmission as Dr. Fauci promised, and so they are going to health facilities to get checked for their symptoms.

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Especially the distancing measures, which were evident in the lockdowns in China, Taiwan, Vietnam, Australia, NZ, the UK---all which produced a lower infection rate than every other country. 

Until they were demonstrated unnecessary and inneficient after the variants made prevention of the risk after infection a much better approach.

ll which produced a lower infection rate than every other country. But when Australia and NZ lifted those measure the rates zoomed skyward.

You have made this claim before and it is still demonstrated as false, not only because the increase came many months after the measures were lifted, but also because it also happened in China, that kept them. Demonstrating that the actual reason for the increase is the appearance of the Omicron variant.

While China had the lowest levels in the world according to global experts

The experts you always make an appeal but can never bring any references? by this point is is clear they do not exist.

Another reason flu is being detected in high numbers is because people are recognizing the Covid vaccines did not provide for a dead end to transmission as Dr. Fauci promised

What reference do you have for Fauci promising vaccines would be a dead end for transmission for all variants that could ever appear? this is a well known misrepresentation that is used by antivaxxer groups even when this was obviously never said. In fact the opposite (the effect of the expected genetic drift would have on all immunity) is what was warned even before the vaccines were produced.

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Until they were demonstrated unnecessary and inneficient after the variants made prevention of the risk after infection a much better approach.

Demonstrated unnecessary doesn't mean the statistics showed they were more effective,. The governments made the choice to let people get infected and die at a higher rate, according to the governments themselves.

You have made this claim before and it is still demonstrated as false, not only because the increase came many months after the measures were lifted, but also because it also happened in China, that kept them. Demonstrating that the actual reason for the increase is the appearance of the Omicron variant.

According to Australia and New Zealand government websites, the infection rates were highest fter the lockdown strategy was lifted. Are the governments lying?

The experts you always make an appeal but can never bring any references? by this point is is clear they do not exist.

The experts I referenced but you refused to accept because they countered your narrative. People inn the medical and science industry though are aware of such basic information.

What reference do you have for Fauci promising vaccines would be a dead end for transmission for all variants that could ever appear? 

The reference where Dr. Fauci said that vaccinated people become essentially dead ends for the virus to spread.

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Demonstrated unnecessary doesn't mean the statistics showed they were more effective

Why misrepresent the text you are quoting, the measures are demonstrated as inefficient, cutting your arm to prevent injuring that arm is also very effective, but terribly inefficient, which is what the zero covid policy is.

 The governments made the choice to let people get infected and die at a higher rate, according to the governments themselves.

Countries have lower death rates than China, even without using the lockdows you agree are unnecessary and counter productive, the only "trick" necessary to have more than a dozen examples better than China is to report only the patients that died without any comorbidity to blame for the death, which is what China does.

According to Australia and New Zealand government websites, the infection rates were highest fter the lockdown strategy was lifted. Are the governments lying?

Again, many months after the lockdowns were lifted, and at approximately the same time China had the same huge elevation, this clearly shows the claim you make is false.

The experts I referenced but you refused to accept because they countered your narrative.

You have presented none, it is not possible to refuse to accept something you have never provided in the first place.

The reference where Dr. Fauci said that vaccinated people become essentially dead ends for the virus to spread.

And you try to apply it for the variants, which is a very transparent attempt to misrepresent the quote, so are you accepting nobody said that vaccines would make people dead ends for infection with variants?

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Why misrepresent the text you are quoting, the measures are demonstrated as inefficient, cutting your arm to prevent injuring that arm is also very effective, but terribly inefficient, which is what the zero covid policy is.

Again, your not liking the government statistics doesn't change them.

Countries have lower death rates than China, even without using the lockdows you agree are unnecessary and counter productive, 

Why misrepresent Antarctica, when it is not a country?

Again, many months after the lockdowns were lifted, and at approximately the same time China had the same huge elevation, this clearly shows the claim you make is false.

Wrong.

In New Zealand the cases skyrocketed right after lockdowns were lifted.

https://news.yahoo.com/zealand-eases-covid-19-lockdowns-145900350.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

In early 2022, the total number of recorded cases rose exponentially; rising from 16,416 cases on 31 January to 100,821 on 28 February.

https://www.health.govt.nz/covid-19-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-data-and-statistics/covid-19-current-cases

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Again, your not liking the government statistics doesn't change them.

The argument was never that I did not like the government statistics, but that you failed to adress the argument that is the lack of efficiency (wasting resources and human lives) is what makes the zero covid policy a failure. Are you going to address that argument or will you concede it disproves your point by failing to disprove it?

Why misrepresent Antarctica, when it is not a country?

Nonsensical comments are not argument either, it just means you recognize you have no argument so you make up things in the hope that your comment is deleted.

In New Zealand the cases skyrocketed right after lockdowns were lifted.

Still months after that, at the same time as the cases skyrocketed in China, both things happening after the introduction of Omicron, which is the real reason.

Unless you are now making up the argument that China also abandoned the lockdowns this fact still disproves your (not any authority) claim that the increase was due to the change of policy.

At least you now recognize you have no expert's opinions to support your personal one, and that nobody said that vaccines would be completely effective against variants as you mistakenly claimed in your previous comments.

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The argument was never that I did not like the government statistics, but that you failed to adress the argument that is the lack of efficiency (wasting resources and human lives) is what makes the zero covid policy a failure. Are you going to address that argument or will you concede it disproves your point by failing to disprove it?

So you concede you reject the government statistics and prefer to use whatever fits your narrative. That doesn't work in the real world.

Nonsensical comments are not argument either, it just means you recognize you have no argument so you make up things in the hope that your comment is deleted.

At least you recognize you are making up things and can't accept actual government data.

Still months after that, at the same time as the cases skyrocketed in China, both things happening after the introduction of Omicron, which is the real reason.

Maybe you are not aware, but omicron is still Covid.

At least you admit you have non evidence, no "experts" opinion, and no data supporting your wilting argument that is based on nothing more than unscientific delusions,

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So you concede you reject the government statistics and prefer to use whatever fits your narrative. That doesn't work in the real world.

That is wrong, the Chinese government systematically underreports the deaths according to even Chinese experts, and do not report at all deaths caused by the lockdowns, there is nothing to reject just to recognize as it is openly reported.

At least you recognize you are making up things and can't accept actual government data.

You are the one making up nonsense to avoid addressing the arguments you can't disprove

Maybe you are not aware, but omicron is still Covid.

And Omicron is the actual cause that made the cases increase including in China, which completely disproves your claim, This is widely reported, and you have argued nothing against it, so you remain disproved.

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