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For now, wary U.S. treads water with transformed COVID-19

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By CARLA K JOHNSON

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So, a cautious optimism that the worst already passed and that the end of the pandemic may be at sight. Vigilance still important, so any change for the worse can be quickly identified and measures against the threat used opportunely.

Unvaccinated people have a six times higher risk of dying from COVID-19 compared with people with at least a primary series of shots, the CDC estimated based on available data from April.

A crystal clear benefit from the vaccines that many still want to believe are "useless".

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and here is just one country that shows vaccines are working, saving people from long covid and death,

no vaccines are not meant to make you immune to catching covid, they do help your body produce proteins to block the virus from attaching to cells, if the body can quickly recognise the virus it can fight it faster .

basically what vaccines have been doing for the last 100yrs.

here come the anti vaxxers with their anti science delusions and excuses 3 2 1

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COVID-19 is still killing hundreds of Americans each day, but is not nearly as dangerous as it was last fall and winter.

Sounds pretty safe to me.

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no vaccines are not meant to make you immune to catching covid, they do help your body produce proteins to block the virus from attaching to cells, if the body can quickly recognise the virus it can fight it faster .

basically what vaccines have been doing for the last 100yrs.

Hahahahaha you're saying all vaccines are as ineffective as the covid ones? Interesting, interesting.

The original IFR was 0.15. The hysteria made it more of a panicdemic than a real 'pandemic' and a return to business as usual is long overdue. It's telling that it was an even more incredibly mild form of the virus made the charade hard to maintain when the so called vaccines did nothing like what was promised.

'Treads water' in the headline is such a preposterous exaggeration I can't even begin to fathom what goes through people's heads

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Hahahahaha you're saying all vaccines are as ineffective as the covid ones? Interesting, interesting.

That would be the opposite instead of the huge misrepresentation antivaxxer groups have tried to make with the covid vaccines, they are comparably as effective as the previous vaccines.

The original IFR was 0.15.

How does this disprove the fact that a vaccinated person is 6 times less likely to die from covid than someone that has not been vaccinated? there is no hysteria in the response from the health care professionals that helped prevent countless deaths but still could not do that for literally millions of people that died because of the disease. Those millions may be

It's telling that it was an even more incredibly mild form of the virus made the charade hard to maintain when the so called vaccines did nothing like what was promised.

How does this work in your mind? people vaccinated only get a milder form of the virus and that is why they die 6 times less? because how else would the variant have any importance then in the difference? people are protected very effectively by the vaccines, the opposite of what antivaxxer groups endlessly said would happen.

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WobotToday  10:28 am JST

Hahahahaha you're saying all vaccines are as ineffective as the covid ones? Interesting, interesting.

Confusion reigns.

The original IFR was 0.15.

Exactly.

Experts went from believing there was a vaccine that protects people from becoming infected, but in reality, to their dismay, it doesn't.

The hysteria made it more of a panicdemic than a real 'pandemic' and a return to business as usual is long overdue. It's telling that it was an even more incredibly mild form of the virus made the charade hard to maintain when the so called vaccines did nothing like what was promised.

True. It is obvious to see the motives behind the scenes.

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Experts went from believing there was a vaccine that protects people from becoming infected, but in reality, to their dismay, it doesn't.

What dismay? most vaccines do not prevent infection, there is a reason these are not a SARS-CoV-2 vaccine, is a COVID vaccine. These vaccines being the same as the general situation for previous vaccines is not a cause of dismay, if anything it was the most likely result. Specially since variants were predicted to appear since before the vaccines were even developed and the real reason for dismay was that escape mutants would render immunity to previous variants (both in vaccinated or infected people) completely irrelevant. That didn't happen.

True. It is obvious to see the motives behind the scenes.

People systematically rejecting all and any scientific knowledge that do not fit with what they want to believe try very hard to misrepresent both the efficacy of the vaccine and the dangers of covid. their motives are obvious. It does not make any of those misrepresentations less false.

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What IS the motivation for all this anti-vaccine hysteria, misrepresentation, and dogged perversion of scientific evidence? It’s nothing to do with the pursuit of truth or human well-being, that’s for sure. Self-centredness? Fear? Paranoia? Susceptibility to conspiracy theories? Just being plain anti-social? A feeling that they possess the truth where lesser creatures don’t? Answer - all of the above, and more, and all of it negative.

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The original IFR was 0.15

Is this supposed to mean that it was not a big problem? 15% fatality rate?

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the CDC estimated based on available data from April.

An estimate?

I prefer the real data.

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An estimate?

I prefer the real data.

The scientific estimate is a valid conclusion from the data, not just a wild guess but something that requires a methodology to do, with intervals of confidence that support the validity of those estimates for example.

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