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virusrex
Why quote something that you are not going to read? having no specific evidence for covid and mask use means the recommendation can only be based on the previous evidence, which means the advice is justified.
You on the other hand said you had evidence that proved at the time the recommendations were wrong, but then keep replying without providing that evidence, That means you accept your statement is false and there was no such information available then
Where is that evidence you said you have? My whole point is that there was no evidence to modify the recommendations.
virusrex
The one that needs evidence for your claim is you, because for scientific institutions to be wrong not making an advice it absolutely requires that evidence to be available. If no evidence for or against is available, that means they are still right for making those advices based on the evidence available from before the pandemic and that you already referenced.
So by repeatedly replying without bringing that evidence you said you had, even when challenged, it means you are implicitly accepting your assertion is false and that evidence do not exist, thus making the recommendations made completely justified.
painkiller
So you don't have the supposed evidence that you claim concluded it was not medically beneficial for the public to wear masks to reduce Covid infections before March 2020.
Sums that one up.
virusrex
Still trying to misrepresent advice done without scientific evidence as if it was generalized at the beginning of the pandemic? that is still false. And you again produce zero references to prove this evidence existed, which means you can't criticize scientific authorities for not recommending something that is not scientifically based.
Which actually disproves your mistaken opinion, because the recommendation based on that evidence is clearly about using masks for symptomatic patients, and prioritizing its use in hospitals, which is exactly the same advice the WHO gave, you just proved that your criticism is wrong.
Not even once, as sure to prove as you are not doing it here either.
As long as you can't bring that evidence it means you are still wrong, absence of that evidence means you can't validly criticize the experts of the world for not making recommendations that require that evidence.
painkiller
Except the advice to wear masks in Asia was given by medical authorities, and agreed to by US medical authorities, and because of the vast medical evidence gathered over the years such as the SARS outbreak in the early 2000s, and more specifically Japan's influenza readiness plan, the medical authorities in Japan, for example, gave the advice to wear the masks at the beginning of the crisis. There is no denying this fact.
The WHO gave conflicting advice. That is a fact. When Japanese medical authorities beat the WHO to the punch with the correct advice, that makes sense--the WHO is an agency.
Sure have.
Let's see the supposed evidence that you claim concluded it was not medically beneficial for the public to wear masks to reduce Covid infections before March 2020.
Elvis is hereToday 07:25 am JST
Incredibly low numbers. Have to give China credit for its success.
virusrex
The advice from scientific authorities can only be based on scientific evidence, which is why it could not be different when the actual evidence supported the advice of prioritizing mask use for symptomatic patients,
You have never brought the supposed evidence you have that the evidence pointed to efficacy of masks for the general asymptomatic population, you only repeat you have it, but apparently nobody else but you can see it. That means it is you who is mistaken, not the CDC, EMA, WHO, Japanese medical association, etc
painkiller
New infections have been steadily rising since 10 days and the seven-day moving average of daily new cases reached an almost five-weeks high of 24,042 on Thursday.
This has been the trend---rising rates in Europe will be seen in the US 4-6 weeks later, and then the same pattern will occur in Asia. Keep an eye on France's numbers.
Elvis is hereToday 05:11 am JST
That's right--as I have said, the WHO corrected their earlier mistaken advice.
That's a good thing, isn't it? At the same time, lucky for millions of Asians, they listened to the global experts giving the correct advice early on, and as a result millions of lives were saved (throw in the lockdowns China employed).
virusrex
There is better immunity to protect from the risk coming from the infection, which is what you quoted, your obvious misrepresentation only makes it obvious you have nothing to criticize the original argument.
If the risk can be maintained low that has no importance. There is no "claim" made that contradict anything that the experts have said, that is all your wrong assumption.
Again making off topic and false comments to get your comments deleted? what is the point of making them in the first place if you are going to taunt the moderation by repeating the same comments that have been already removed?
painkiller
France's national health body has warned of a resurgence of COVID-19 cases in the country, and urged people to continue to get vaccinated to protect themselves against the virus.
A new wave coming soon. First Europe, then North America, and then Asia.
There is no better immunity from "the infection". And this baseless statement contradicts the article which warns of "a resurgence of COVID-19 cases" . The uptick in cases will happen. There is scientific data providing evidence . So, we have the experts, and then we have your "claim". Which will we go with?
At least the guy in the picture is wearing a mask; contrary to the WHO's advice:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/30/world/coronavirus-who-masks-recommendation-trnd/index.html
Suffer Hiker
Enough with these silly masks, plastic gloves and shower curtains.
virusrex
Because the disease is still much more deadly than other infectious respiratory diseases, it is not harmless and it still represents a much more important risk than for example influenza as anybody can see just by comparing the number of hospitalizations and deaths between both diseases.
CarlosTakanakana
@virusrex I was all for precautions before we had vaccines and the virus was more virulent... I'm wondering why are precautions still necessary? At this stage isn't the virus pretty harmless for most people?
virusrex
The change of season and how people behave will make it easier for covid to spread in the following weeks, so calling for precautions is sensible and well timed. New versions of boosters appear to produce better immunity that will help reducing the risk from the infection and together with other simple and rational precautions this can avoid having a sudden and huge increase of cases, hospitalizations or deaths.