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How dangerous is vaping? The science remains hazy

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By EVA HAMBACH

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The answer depends.

If it competes with Japan Tobacco, then it's extremely dangerous.

If it's sold by Japan Tobacco, then it's completely safe.

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Vaping is better for you than smoking and should only be used by smokers looking to quit. But it's being done by naive young people because they think it's cool.

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SELLING ELECTRICLY HEATED BONGS TO DOPERS LEADS TO PROBLEMS. That the correct headline to all the stories on vaping. Every convenience store and gas station in much of the USA is selling CBD oil made from the same plant as marijuana. Testing has shown that many of these products still have THC in them, mostly because the makers are not good at getting it out of the product. Of course any doper will know which ones are the "best" high, and the health issues seen from vaping are all so far reported from those who are using their units to vape street concoctions. Again, lets sell cheap bongs on every corner, what could go wrong?

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SELLING ELECTRICLY HEATED BONGS TO DOPERS LEADS TO PROBLEMS. That the correct headline to all the stories on vaping.

No it doesn't. The vaping issues have all come from the vapes that use liquid/chemicals. The ones that vape tobacco or cannabis have not cause any problems, and in fact, are healthier than smoking traditionally by burning.

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Vaping is hopelessly uncool. James Dean never would have become an icon if he were pictured vaping instead of smoking.

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So far over 500 people in the US have serious vaping-related illness.

8 people have died from a vaping-related lung disease and counting.

People are returning to smoking.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/19/health/vaping-lung-injury-new-cases-530-bn/index.html

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Rather than vaping in which you may never be able to know or feel if there is something amiss in the vapor, buy some dried tobacco and roll your own cigarettes without all the chemicals and have a few a day. Smoking natural tobacco in moderation shouldn't be a big problem. When I was a kid I recall seeing a family friend rolling his own cigarettes.

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I smell a conspiracy. Why all of a sudden all these articles and scoops about how bad it is for you? The tobacco companies have long tentacles and they smell comepetition.

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Smoking natural tobacco in moderation shouldn't be a big problem. 

Now THAT'S hysterical.

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Now THAT'S hysterical.

Only if you are utterly clueless the crap big tobacco companies are lacing tobacco with. Pure natural tobacco is probably a hell of a lot better than what comes out of those factory smoke stacks over yonder.

So far over 500 people in the US have serious vaping-related illness.

And how many dead over the same period from sky diving, kayaking and swimming? Yeah, I probably should have given myself the user name "Mr. Freedom" but I am getting real tired of all these demands for chains. Let people try it if they want. Its their body, not yours and not the government's (at least it should not be).

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Only if you are utterly clueless the crap big tobacco companies are lacing tobacco with. Pure natural tobacco is probably a hell of a lot better than what comes out of those factory smoke stacks over yonder.

Hmm, I would agree it's better, in that it won't have the additives. That said, I did some Googling and found this:

Not even marginally less harmful

Terms such as “healthier” or “safer” — as in the elusive safer cigarette that the tobacco industry is trying to create — should tell you who is shaping this argument. The proper term is “less harmful,” and even this is highly suspect. You’re still breathing in myriad cancer-causing agents; one or two fewer carcinogens, like one or two fewer bullets from a machine gun, doesn’t matter.

Commercial tobacco does contain a lot of junk. The industry has hundreds of additives in its arsenal to make cigarette smoking a more pleasant and addictive experience. Some of these additives are carcinogenic. But good ol’ natural tobacco, particularly when burned, has upwards of 40 known or probable carcinogens that trump any harm done by additives.

Also, homegrown tobacco still has those same wonderful heart-stopping qualities causing higher blood pressure, higher cholesterol levels, and higher risk of artery clotting and stroke.

Part of the blame for the confusion goes to the anti-smoking movement. Its emphasis on tobacco additives has implied that natural tobacco is somehow healthier.

Link: https://www.livescience.com/7914-warning-homegrown-tobacco-deadly.html

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Oh wow, I should have kept reading:

Maybe worse

While gardening is therapeutic, there’s irony in every puff of organic, homegrown tobacco, because the nicotine you’re absorbing is a deadly pesticide.

First, be careful handling fresh tobacco leaves. Touching wet leaves can cause green tobacco sickness, a type of nicotine poisoning. The sickness frequently affects tobacco harvesters, usually migrant workers lacking adequate protection.

Children exposed to high levels of nicotine from wet leaves often require hospitalization.

Next, should you succeed in growing your own, note that your exposure to the most deadly carcinogens — polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, such as benzene — might be greater than that from a regular cigarette, depending on the type of tobacco, the nature of the rolling, and the probable lack of filter. Thousands of chemicals are created by lighting tobacco, and the quantity of poisons varies based on airflow, temperature and other factors.

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The liquid of these products is heated and becomes a gas and once in the lungs condenses back to a liquid.

Repeated vaping will gum up your lungs and lead to respiratory failure.

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