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How to stay healthy during cold, flu and COVID-19 season

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By CARLA K. JOHNSON

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Drink lots of fluid, like Jim Beam bourbon. You won't care if you do get sick.

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It’s not too late to roll up your sleeve. 

A statement frankly reeking of desperation.

While the EU and much of the rest of the world are pulling back on the drive to be continually vaccinated with the mRNA vaccine, we still have medical outliers like those featured encouraging us to keep on boosting.

The continual fear campaign continues here with weekly reports of either a flu pandemic, or the next Covid variant, or a warning by the WHO that the next pandemic could be worse.

And we wonder why people are getting angrier and angrier? Why their health is suffering? Ask yourself why this propaganda is continuing to be foisted on us, and what is in it for those who are continually pushing this narrative. Is it for your health, or is it because there are billions of dollars at stake?

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Wear a mask. Gargle when returning home. Sanitizer and hand washing. Hot foods like Nabe, soups, casseroles, and stews. We visit a local clinic once a week for nose, ear, and throat cleaning and steam in the nostrils.

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A statement frankly reeking of desperation.

Desperation would be more appropriate to describe people that even now, with all the evidence of the huge benefit resulting from vaccines, still try to manipulate others into rejecting this safe and effective medical intervention using false information.

we still have medical outliers like those featured encouraging us to keep on boosting.

Every medical institution of the world is hardly an "outlier", the consensus is that vaccines reduce the risk for people even if antivaxxer propaganda tries to hide this.

And we wonder why people are getting angrier and angrier? 

No wondering, powerful people profit a lot from misleading people into getting angry, disinformation and false information are a common tool to reach that goal. If you have the best medical professionals on one side and shady politicians and people making billions on supplements on the other then it should be obvious who is right and who is wrong there.

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And we wonder why people are getting angrier and angrier? 

People? Or you? Why don't you just let people decide for themselves?

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Desperation would be more appropriate to describe people that even now, with all the evidence of the huge benefit resulting from vaccines, still try to manipulate others into rejecting this safe and effective medical intervention using false information.

OMG !! No words come to me. Unicorn is one.

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Limit the intake of anything administered by needles.

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Is this some kind of joke? How many people lost their jobs because they didn’t have a choice but take the Covid vaccines?

Exactly. Pfizer admitting that they never even tested for transmission because of "the speed of science and the market" was just the beginning of proving what "Antivaxxers" had claimed all along - that the mRNA vaccine was extremely rushed without proper testing, and safety was being put behind profits.

Then add governmental discrimination, segregation, belittling, insulting and removing basic human rights from those who made an informed medical decision based on "stopping the spread" misinformation.

Those who must be held to account in particular are government and business leaders who enforced the sacking and discrimination of people based on what should have been a PRIVATE medical decision.

Thank goodness Japan was for the most part immune from the medical tyranny that plagued other countries.

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OMG !! No words come to me. Unicorn is one.

Antivaxxer disinformation is real and unfortunately very easy to find.

Is this some kind of joke? How many people lost their jobs because they didn’t have a choice but take the Covid vaccines?

To make an irrational decision that put others at an elevated risk should have consequences, people lose their jobs for refusing to wash their hands as well, or for going to work sick.

Limit the intake of anything administered by needles.

Even if that is objectively worse for the person? are you also against the use of every other medication that is injected even if it can save lives? that is deeply irrational.

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Is this some kind of joke? How many people lost their jobs because they didn’t have a choice but take the Covid vaccines?

Dunno. How many?

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Exactly. Pfizer admitting that they never even tested for transmission because of "the speed of science and the market" was just the beginning of proving what "Antivaxxers" had claimed all along - that the mRNA vaccine was extremely rushed without proper testing, and safety was being put behind profits.

False, the clinical trials for the vaccines were on the same scale of time (and involving much more people) than previously adopted vaccines, and the results from their use in the public simply confirmed the findings without any problems. No safety nor efficacy problems, the vaccines are considered a huge success by the medical community of the world and have saved millions of lives.

Then add governmental discrimination, segregation, belittling, insulting and removing basic human rights from those who made an informed medical decision based on "stopping the spread" misinformation.

Calling effective measures "misinformation" do not make it so, you still have not provided even one institution that says isolation, masks, vaccination, etc. did not prevent enough damage to the public health to be justified, just again claiming things are true even if contradicted by the experts just because you believe it so.

Thank goodness Japan was for the most part immune from the medical tyranny that plagued other countries.

Japan is simply another very good example of the efficacy of the measures, that were in full use during the first years of the pandemic, the difference with other countries is that people followed the recommendations without having to be forced to do it, it is simply much more culturally accepted to do things for the common good and accept the informed opinion of the experts.

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To make an irrational decision that put others at an elevated risk 

When your employer freely admitted that their mRNA vaccines do not stop or even limit transmission, what sort of elevated risk are you referring to?

Sorry, but just because you claim otherwise does not make it true. Especially when these claims are a direct contradiction to every single ethical, unbiased, not-for-profit medical professional and institution in the entire world.

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When your employer freely admitted that their mRNA vaccines do not stop or even limit transmission, what sort of elevated risk are you referring to?

Again making baseless claims about other commenters? who is supposedly now my employer? anything else you would like to imagine about people that can demonstrate your comments are mistaken?

Covid vaccines do reduce transmission, and more importantly (for vaccines that target viruses that directly replicate in the respiratory epithelium) they reduce disease, complications and death.

Sorry, but just because you claim otherwise does not make it true.

This is not something I claim, but what the best experts on the field do, the CDC, WHO, EMA, countless medical universities, hospitals, health services, etc.

You could not get even one "ethical, unbiased, not-for-profit medical" that supports your point, not even one, making an appeal to them can only come after you bring a reference where they support your view.

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When your employer freely admitted that their mRNA vaccines do not stop or even limit transmission, what sort of elevated risk are you referring to?

A very true and evidence supported claim.

5 ( +12 / -7 )

A very true and evidence supported claim.

What evidence? calling imaginary claims "evidence supported" is terribly illogical. And still completely against the rules of the site. What evidence can you provide about my employer?

-9 ( +4 / -13 )

In addition the usual recommendations (vitD, sun light, zinc...) it is also to important to prevent dry air indoors.

I certainly won't be getting any shots....

4 ( +12 / -8 )

I certainly won't be getting any shots....

Which you are free to do, but scientifically has been proved that vaccination importantly reduce the risks for anybody for whom the vaccine is recommended.

-6 ( +5 / -11 )

The COVID-safe strategies Australian scientists are using to protect themselves from the virus - ABC News

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-01-21/covid-safe-strategies-australian-scientists-virus-infection/103335466

-5 ( +2 / -7 )

Drink lots of fluid, like Jim Beam bourbon. You won't care if you do get sick.

In addition to this excellent advice, I take vitamin d, use a humidifier at night to keep mucus membranes healthy and exercise a lot. I will never wear a mask again or take any shot unless my life is at risk.

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 I will never wear a mask again or take any shot unless my life is at risk.

Both measures reduce the risk that you have from covid, but not only that, they reduce the extra risk you represent for others, "never" also means you consider this extra risk for others not something worth of consideration.

Also, immediate death is not the only negative consequence from covid, there are already many long term and even permanent consequences from the disease that become more and more significative according to the number of times you get the disease, from brain atrophy to long lasting immune system dysregulation.

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Can you share any references for this claim that consequences increase with the number of times infected? I don't have any reason to doubt it, but haven't read this before.

Also, immediate death is not the only negative consequence from covid, there are already many long term and even permanent consequences from the disease that become more and more significative according to the number of times you get the disease, from brain atrophy to long lasting immune system dysregulation.

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you consider this extra risk for others not something worth of consideration.

Yes, I have mild asthma and masks cause me to have breathing problems and lead to panic attacks in the worst case. Also, the shots I got recently led to heart problems which are a bigger risk for me and terrifying to experience as opposed to a sore throat. To protect myself and others when sick I will stay home and work from home. I do not think masks do much if you are on a crowded train.

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Can you share any references for this claim that consequences increase with the number of times infected? I don't have any reason to doubt it, but haven't read this before.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-022-02051-3

The evidence shows that reinfection further increases risks of death, hospitalization and sequelae in multiple organ systems in the acute and postacute phase.

To protect myself and others when sick I will stay home and work from home.

As long as there is a medical exception this is understandable, but not many people can have the luxury of working from home, this people end up being dependent on everybody else doing the extra part of masking and vaccinating (and other measures) to be protected.

I do not think masks do much if you are on a crowded train.

As expected this has already been studied and confirmed

https://bmcinfectdis.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12879-022-07664-0

We determine the probable impact of wearing face masks on trains over a seven day simulation horizon, showing substantial and statistically significant reductions in new cases when passenger mask wearing proportions are greater than 80%. The higher the level of mask coverage, the greater the reduction in the number of new infections. 

-10 ( +0 / -10 )

Kanagawa Expat

Today 09:21 am JST

“Why don't you just let people decide for themselves?”

> Is this some kind of joke? How many people lost their jobs because they didn’t have a choice but take the Covid vaccines?

Is this still happening?

Happened a long time ago in the land of the free not here I think

And they did choose not to take the vaccine despite your claim they didn't have a choice but take it

-1 ( +4 / -5 )

Seems there are still some who are afraid of mRNA vaccines, take the non mRNA ones instead

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