Killer T cells boost immunity to coronavirus variants: study

I've been listening to some interviews of Geert Vanden Bossche.

Hope his ideas are sounder than the people who convinced you this virus had burned itself out last year.

This is of course hardly surprising, since the first few months it was known that antibody levels dropped relatively fast, specially on less symptomatic infections, but the people were still protected against reinfections (and continue to be after a year) which made the experts think that cellular immunity was the responsible for this protection.

Since cellular mediated protection is much more elaborate viruses have a much harder time avoiding it, the person can still be technically "re-infected" if the antibodies fail to neutralize the variants immediately, but as long as the T-cells can recognize the virus the symptoms can be reduced or avoided completely.

The problem is that evaluating the activity of the T-cells is a much more complicated and expensive process, which is why until now tests for immunity are based on antibodies. This is what makes it difficult to see how well protected people are.

He explains that Killer T cells are indeed very important and that they get better with regular exposure to pathogens and weaker if not exposed (social distancing/constant mask wearing).

He also explains how taking the covid vaccines can adversely affect the Killer T cells' ability to fight infections.

Again, the problem with these kind of explanations is that they lack even the minimum amount of evidence to back them up, wild imaginations that fail to explain what actually happens in reality are the worst kind of references you can find.

Of course big pharma does not like his comments, so if you google his name you will get countless sites attacking or "debunking" him

Nope, "Big pharma" would love for him to be right, so instead of dirt cheap vaccines they could keep profiting from people spending thousands over thousands of dollars on hospitalizations and treatment for long COVID. The one that do not like his comments is the scientific community, that validly consider him a quack that likes to misrepresent evidence and jump to invalid conclusions while trying to pretend to be scientific about it, he is not.

https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-critical-thinking-pseudoscience/doomsday-prophecy-dr-geert-vanden-bossche

He's a vaccine expert and is clearly not an anti-vaxxer, see his background here:

Again with the invalid appeal to authority, the actually important part is not what he is but what he needs to prove his personal opinions as right, and this is evidence. His qualifications only make it worse for him to be mistaken because he should know better than conclude things in abscense of evidence, or even in spite of evidence that proves the contrary.

On a related note, the news so far is that the three vaccines that have been approved by the CDC have all been shown to be effective against the variants. That is very good news.

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He explains that Killer T cells are indeed very important and that they get better with regular exposure to pathogens and weaker if not exposed (social distancing/constant mask wearing).

He also explains how taking the covid vaccines can adversely affect the Killer T cells' ability to fight infections.

Again, the problem with these kind of explanations is that they lack even the minimum amount of evidence to back them up, wild imaginations that fail to explain what actually happens in reality are the worst kind of references you can find.

Of course big pharma does not like his comments, so if you google his name you will get countless sites attacking or "debunking" him

Nope, "Big pharma" would love for him to be right, so instead of dirt cheap vaccines they could keep profiting from people spending thousands over thousands of dollars on hospitalizations and treatment for long COVID. The one that do not like his comments is the scientific community, that validly consider him a quack that likes to misrepresent evidence and jump to invalid conclusions while trying to pretend to be scientific about it, he is not.

https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-critical-thinking-pseudoscience/doomsday-prophecy-dr-geert-vanden-bossche

He's a vaccine expert and is clearly not an anti-vaxxer, see his background here:

Again with the invalid appeal to authority, the actually important part is not what he is but what he needs to prove his personal opinions as right, and this is evidence. His qualifications only make it worse for him to be mistaken because he should know better than conclude things in abscense of evidence, or even in spite of evidence that proves the contrary.

He is clearly knows a lot about vaccines and immunology

Unfortunately he appears not to know enough to sustain his opinions with evidence, which would make his motives suspicious. It is not believable that a professional "fortets" to do the first thing that is taught to students, that usually indicates the conclusions he likes are not valid so he is reduced to do an invalid appeal to authority.

An elementary student with evidence wins over a Nobel prize without it, conspiracy fans always fail to understand how science works and think a title can replace evidence, that is false.

Personally, I don’t see a dramatic gain or advantage. Assumed, someone is strongly infected with a massive corona virus load and the viruses are affecting multiple organs, not only the lung, then those T-cells would attack plenty of own cells or whole regions, leading to an even faster death, then caused by own T-cells and not so very much by the corona virus itself.

I've been listening to some interviews of Geert Vanden Bossche.

He explains that Killer T cells are indeed very important and that they get better with regular exposure to pathogens and weaker if not exposed (social distancing/constant mask wearing).

He also explains how taking the covid vaccines can adversely affect the Killer T cells' ability to fight infections.

Of course big pharma does not like his comments, so if you google his name you will get countless sites attacking or "debunking" him, but I do recommend everyone at least give his videos a listen.

He's a vaccine expert and is clearly not an anti-vaxxer, see his background here:

https://be.linkedin.com/in/geertvandenbossche?src=aff-lilpar&veh=aff_src.aff-lilpar_c.partners_pkw.123201_plc.adgoal%20GmbH_pcrid.449670_learning&trk=aff_src.aff-lilpar_c.partners_pkw.123201_plc.adgoal%20GmbH_pcrid.449670_learning&clickid=1tnXCo14KxyJRSO0ElylqXhuUkEXZ62X1wBkzE0&irgwc=1

Bossche's website is also quite good, he has a number of reports with plenty of references: https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/

He is clearly knows a lot about vaccines and immunology.

Clearly more convincing than something written by a guy with a Masters at the Office of Science and Society, written in the usual deceptive hit-piece style. Not the first time virusrex uses that as a source.

@Gooch, you pasted virusrex's entire post, but it seems you forgot to add any comment. I'd love to know your thoughts on it.