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Lupus and other autoimmune diseases strike far more women than men

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By LAURAN NEERGAARD

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More than 24 million Americans, by some estimates up to 50 million, have an autoimmune disorder — diseases such as lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, multiple sclerosis and dozens more. About 4 of every 5 patients are women, a mystery that has baffled scientists for decades

50 million Americans have an unnatural immune disorder.

If experts are "baffled", forgive me for hesitating to take their advice when they assure me that a product they recommend doesn't cause autoimmune disorders.

I'll pass and stick with a natural immune system thanks.

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Interesting. Looking forward to learn more.

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50 million Americans have an unnatural immune disorder.

What is "unnatural" about it? this claim is yours, not what the experts say about it.

If experts are "baffled", forgive me for hesitating to take their advice when they assure me that a product they recommend doesn't cause autoimmune disorders.

The origins and complete characterization of the mechanisms is what is difficult to study and explain, in comparison making an epidemiological comparison between two populations (one using a product and one not) and seeing how the incidence rates are the same is a terribly simple thing to do.

I'll pass and stick with a natural immune system thanks.

You mean the natural system that produce 50 million Americans with autoimmune disorders? why not instead treat the disease so a much healthier and longer life can be expected? that makes no sense.

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So many people have gotten rid of their autoimmune issues by simply following a carnivore diet. But because we can't go there, scientists will remain baffled...

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So many people have gotten rid of their autoimmune issues by simply following a carnivore diet.

No actual reference for this claim, this is not a recommendation that immunologist support.

But because we can't go there, scientists will remain baffled...

Making up magical cures that actually do not improve a disease is not useful, nor it helps understanding the disease.

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It is my wish they invent cure for autoimmune deseases.

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It is my wish they invent cure for autoimmune deseases.

Scientific and technological progress means this is something that could be achieved soon, focusing on evidence and scientific methods allow for endless possibilities of benefit.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-00169-7

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A study (survey) carried out at Harvard on 2029 people following the carnivore diet, they found that out of those who had autoimmune issues, 89% reported an improvement (36% resolved).

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34934897/

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 study (survey) carried out at Harvard

A study where the participants self selected (and self eliminated) means a huge bias since those for whom there is no benefit would likely not choose to participate. The benefits were also only self reported as well (instead of being confirmed by objective data) which means anybody trying to justify their diet (even to themselves) would be much more likely to inflate the benefits even if not real.

Not to mention there is no comparison group, so it is perfectly possible that 100% of a group in a vegetarian diet reported an improvement with 70% resolved (making the carnivore diet a much worse option).

So no, the reference is nowhere near enough to support the claim being made.

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