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Major review backs cervical cancer shots, especially for teens

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Some countries have banned this shot, and I think Japan was going to, after countless reports of post shot nerve dysfunction and disorder.

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In the interests of transparency who funded the study i wonder ?

"She noted that some campaign groups have expressed concern about HPV vaccines, but said this review had found no evidence to support claims of increased risk of harm."

Gee i wonder why the Gardisil HPV vaccine has been banned in Japan, France, India & Spain then ?

I guess those HPV vaccine injured young ladies in Japan and Sth America don't count then. I wonder what they and their parents think of that statement.

@Burning Bush = you are right

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In the interests of transparency who funded the study i wonder?

In the interests of transparency, studies are required to list sources of funding and declare authors' interests.

Reports like this - not from sinister motives, but out of incurable vapidity - never provide such information, or the title of the study. However, it's trivially simple to find it for yourself. It took me about 2 minutes.

Gee i wonder why the Gardisil HPV vaccine has been banned in Japan

Such wondering is futile if you base it on something that is demonstrably untrue. Gardasil isn't banned in Japan.

https://www.skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/japan-bans-gardasil-debunking-myths-hpv-vaccine/

I guess those HPV vaccine injured young ladies in Japan and Sth America don't count then. 

It's entirely possible they don't. In the current climate of public vaccine hysteria, claims of vaccine-caused injury are eminently disputable, and frequently untrue. They certainly shouldn't be taken on trust, especially when they are circulated by people such as yourself who - as above with your Gardasil claim - play fast and loose with the facts.

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/death-gardasil-not-so-fast/

And all you do with that approach is show that you have no interest in the truth; it simply makes everything you say suspect.

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In the interests of transparency who funded the study i wonder ?

Did you read the article, it's not a study they are discussing but a review of all the studies done on the HPV vaccine.

Cochrane reviews are impartial and not funded by any government or business.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cochrane_(organisation)

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@wipeout = am prepared to be proven wrong anytime but the links you gave me are in fact pro vaccine sites are they not ? Wouldn't have an agenda would they ? Funded by ?

I'm not at all an anti Vax My kids have had some but not all Vax. But am very much anti BS and FOR the health of my kids as is every parent.

"It's entirely possible they don't" Huh ?? unless it's your kid of course. Is your real name Madeline Albright ?

@ Luddite ok was wrong in my statement. you are right "it's a review of all the studies done on the HPV vaccine." Who paid for those studies though ?

"Cochrane reviews are impartial and not funded by any government or business"

They get money from someone/somewhere and don't run on fresh air buddy sorry to shatter your ignorant bliss on that score.

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Pure bunk , yes they studied all the studies BUT who funded those studies?

I'm not anti vaccine, my kids have gotten almost every vaccine they can get. But this one I leave for them to decide. I personally think it's a big waste of precious medical dollars.

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"It's entirely possible they don't" Huh ??

It's simple enough. You don't count people as vaccine-injured if they haven't been injured by the vaccine. Therefore, as I said, it's "entirely possible" that these people don't count. It doesn't make what happened to them unimportant or diminish their suffering; it simply insists that claims must be backed by good evidence if they are to be added as conclusive data.

It is not desirable either on the personal, national, or international scale that parents of children who fall seriously ill or die are fed a possibly, probably, or definitely false narrative. And it isn't desirable that parents themselves are automatically believed no matter what claim they make: it is natural that they look for a cause when something terrible happens to their child, but it is not better for society to automatically take their word for it. (Case in point - vaccines causing autism.) Such claims are often highly unreliable.

There are many claimed cases of vaccine injury, and very, veru few that are proven. Most commonly the basis is nothing more than a temporal link. Such links are a statistical certainty, given that people within a population, including young people, do fall gravely ill. But that link could be any arbitrarily chosen event rather than vaccination; it just happens that nowadays anti-vaccine sentiment is high, antivaccine activists exploit every opportunity they can find and are effective at spreading misinformation, and false-balance reporting in mainstream news sources (such as that initially given to Wakefield and his MMR campaign) compounds the effect.

Who paid for those studies though?

Again, I suggest you go and look them up, rather than expecting someone else to take the time and trouble to provide the information for you.

The review tells you which studies were covered, then you can seek out each study that takes your interest and get the information on funding from there. Funding and declaration of interest are required information in studies.

am prepared to be proven wrong anytime

You have been. Gardasil isn't banned in Japan. For that matter, nor is it banned in India, Spain, or France. As I said, it's futile for you to wonder why it's been banned in those countries, when it hasn't.

but the links you gave me are in fact pro vaccine sites are they not ?

Certainly.

Funded by ?

Once again, you can easily find that information for yourself. Here are the home pages of the respective websites.

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/

https://www.skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/

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