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Miracle cures: Online conspiracy theories creating new age of unproven medical treatments

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The Food and Drug Administration maintains an online database of unproven or harmful treatments that it has identified

Here is a link to the FDA's site: https://www.fda.gov/consumers/health-fraud-scams/health-fraud-product-database .

Odd, that the site says that the list is current only up to 11/14/2023. Also odd that there are only 42 entries for all of CY 2023. Still, it may be a starting point reference for consumers.

A topic that comes up frequently in oncology, and those who suffer advanced stage disease seeking cures, is what is called stem cell tourism. More specifically, those seeking treatments that lie outside of regulatory frameworks in the US, Europe or Australia. On the subject of unproven on unregulated therapies - cell and gene-based therapies - the European Consortium for Communicating Gene and Cell Therapy Information (EuroGCT) has some useful information in English located at:

https://www.eurogct.org/what-are-unproven-therapies

https://www.eurostemcell.org/regulation-unproven-stem-cell-therapies-medicinal-product-or-medical-procedure

And the International Society for Cell & Gene Therapy has an interesting recent paper over all of this, at:

https://www.isct-cytotherapy.org/article/S1465-3249(23)00064-6/fulltext

If this applies to your situation, I wish you all the best.

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 Others have died after ingesting other unproven COVID-19 cures such as chloroquine phosphate and hydroxychloroquine, which was promoted by Trump as president.

According to studies this is much more important than what the people that pushed for its use want to recognize, an estimate of 17,000 extra deaths thanks to its use (and that includes only patients where it was prescribed and followed by doctors).

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S075333222301853X?via%3Dihub

It is all about taking advantage of the desperation of patients that distrust medical products even when they are tested very strictly but end up using things that are sold without even basic safety controls (and belong to industries that also move billions every year).

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Health care fraud is big business

And regular US “health care” isn't?

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The FDA and AMA really need to crack down hard on medical fraud. Both the quacks and the corporations.

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We saw something similar to this a few years ago.

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My fiends mum got caught up with these evil people. She had terminal cancer and was fleeced for thousands believing she had found a cure.

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We saw something similar to this a few years ago.

This is constantly present, the only difference is what kind of unproved (or debunked) treatment is being used to deceive the people.

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Snake oils.

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The FDA and AMA really need to crack down hard on medical fraud. Both the quacks and the corporations.

They should also crack down hard on the FDA and AMA.

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People don’t trust the medical industrial complex? I can’t believe it.

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Ha

the only truth here is just how stupid the MSM look when they post stories talking about conspiracies

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They should also crack down hard on the FDA and AMA.

Compared with the frauds being done by people peddling disproved treatments like in the article the FDA and AMA are simply in a much better category, recommendations are at least based on a minimum of scientific evidence, and more importantly, they are changed when new evidence come to contradict what was know before.

the only truth here is just how stupid the MSM look when they post stories talking about conspiracies

What is stupid about the article? it is a very clear example of a real problem with severe consequences. Having even a token amount of empathy with those that fall prey of medical scams would let anybody understand the importance of these warnings.

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the only truth here is just how stupid the MSM look when they post stories talking about conspiracies

Yeah, they have a habit of only bringing up the weirdest ones, while ignoring or greatly distorting the legit ones.

Others have died after ingesting other unproven COVID-19 cures such as chloroquine phosphate and hydroxychloroquine, which was promoted by Trump as president.

There was a case that became big news, where they presented it as a Trump fan that accidentally killed her husband by given him HCQ. Turns out she gave him a pond cleaner, with chloroquine as one of its ingredients, she was not a Trump fan, and it looks like she intentionally murdered her husband.

Also, studies concluding that HCQ is ineffective and dangerous have been clearly debunked by Raoult's group. Many studies confirmed its effectiveness when administered correctly (dose, timing, and combination with other products). Those few studies that said otherwise were incorrectly done (wrong dose, given alone and much too late) and were overwhelmingly shown to be linked to pharma.

Conspiracy theories about COVID-19 and immunization have also spurred opposition to the lifesaving vaccine.

Yeah, those "wacky conspiracy theorists" who brought up natural immunity were proven to be correct....

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Yeah, they have a habit of only bringing up the weirdest ones, while ignoring or greatly distorting the legit ones

Because the whole point is that people still think these kind of impossible conspiracies are possible? there are people that still think Ivermecting or HCQ help against covid for example, and that has been disproved beyond any reasonable doubt.

Also, studies concluding that HCQ is ineffective and dangerous have been clearly debunked by Raoult's group

That is still false, Raoult was unable to defend his own original paper on its use and had to correct it to point out how it was useless, and that was even before he was found to conduct unethical human experimentation, fraud, fabrication of data, etc.

The reference provided (and the studies that support the conclusions) is still perfectly valid and has not been "debunked" There is simply no "correct" dose nor timing where the repurposed drug helps in any way, and instead it became the cause of thousands of extra deaths.

Yeah, those "wacky conspiracy theorists" who brought up natural immunity were proven to be correct.

On the opposite, they were proved to be criminally irresponsible and even now vaccines are the much better way to get immunity without the full risks of the infection (risks that keep growing).

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On the opposite, they were proved to be criminally irresponsible and even now vaccines are the much better way to get immunity without the full risks of the infection (risks that keep growing).

...but with the much greater risk of serious vaccine adverse effects. Plus, you still risk infection and its effects....

Most people have realized this by now...

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...but with the much greater risk of serious vaccine adverse effects. Plus, you still risk infection and its effects....

That is still false, (the same as the claim Raoult disproved the damage from HCQ) there is no such greater risk from vaccines, in reality (and a conclusion supported by the medical consensus) is that the infection is a much greater risk and vaccines are a much safer option being continously recommended for people even now.

Most people have realized this by now

The opposite, the antivaxxer propaganda is failing, with people being informed how repeated infections lead to higher degrees of problems from covid, including permanent ones like immune discontrol, rapid progression of senility, heart problems etc. "Natural immunity" is for all purposes the worst option.

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