Most kids with serious inflammatory illness had mild COVID

Hopefully the clinical trials of COVID vaccines done on children will have the same degree of safety as in adults, so this kind of complications can be prevented.

Hopefully this and the large scale study in Lancet showing that 30% of those that had covid-19 in all age groups and even mild cases, are now dealing with neurological problems will silence the " most people recover from covid-19" crowd.

Now we are starting to see the long term effects that covid-19 has, something the experts have been warning about since the start.

So the "most people don't die" used by covid deniers, anti vaxxers and anti maskers should now be a moot point as 30% having neurological problems and children having serious inflammatory illness, will hopefully silence most of them.

Not needed for kids. My kids will never get these vaccines.

Not needed for kids. My kids will never get these vaccines.

Anti vaxxers logic 101 ignore facts and science.

Not needed for kids. My kids will never get these vaccines.

The article describe a perfectly valid need for kids.

Many kids do not receive safe and effective health measures only because of irrational beliefs of the parents, from food and vitamins to blood. That does not make this a rational choice.

virusrexToday  11:03 am JST

Not needed for kids. My kids will never get these vaccines.

The article describe a perfectly valid need for kids.

Many kids do not receive safe and effective health measures only because of irrational beliefs of the parents, from food and vitamins to blood. That does not make this a rational choice.

Not giving vaccinations to children is neglect and abuse. CoVid-19 is everybody's onus.

Okay, so as tiny fraction of kids get infected with covid and an even smaller proportion get this thing which is treatable with basic medicines.

So good news, it's rare and treatable

Now add in the Lancet study on neurological problems ( not yet treatable) surfacing in 30% of those that had covid-19 even mild cases and in all age categories.

And we have not good news and mounting problems.

We wouldn't even get into the variants showing even more complications.

So good news, it's rare and treatable

Even better news, it is preventable, in the worst case scenario by vaccinating everybody else so transmission of the pathogen is stopped, in the best directly vaccinating the kids so the risk is reduced even more

Not needed for kids. My kids will never get these vaccines.

Anti vaxxers logic 101 ignore facts and science.

In Japan, nobody below 20 has died from covid. With this kind of stat, why would anyone give an unapproved vaccine to their kid. That would be abuse. Who knows what kind of long term adverse effects they will get.

Now add in the Lancet study on neurological problems ( not yet treatable) surfacing in 30% of those that had covid-19 even mild cases and in all age categories.

Is that the study that was reported on JT where they questioned people who had been hospitalized for covid19 and a certain fraction had reported things like fatigue....

Is that the study that was reported on JT where they questioned people who had been hospitalized for covid19 and a certain fraction had reported things like fatigue.

If you actually did any proper checking of real medical information you would know The Lancet.

Look it up. It is a world renowned medical publication that publishes full medical papers one of the top publications along with JAMA, The BMJ and New England journal of medicine.

No not something you would have read on JT.

Yes, I am familiar with the Lancet.

If you actually read the JapanToday articles, you would know that they often report on published studies.

In Japan, nobody below 20 has died from covid. With this kind of stat, why would anyone give an unapproved vaccine to their kid. That would be abuse. Who knows what kind of long term adverse effects they will get.

Nobody has been confirmed to die from COVID, that is different. Also death is not the only negative consequence from the disease.

A safe and effective vaccine is not abuse, if it can be proved there is no significative risk then the opposite is the abuse. Do you know what kind of long term adverse effects will come from COVID infection? the article explains a very serious one that comes even after mild disease, it is perfectly valid that others will be identified in the future.

On the opposite side, a vaccine with a millionth or so of the antigen, without any of the immune-system hacking non-structural proteins and without any replication done inside the cells has every chance of being much safer.

... and it turns out on March 28, on JT there was indeed an article entitled "1 in 3 COVID survivors suffer long-term health issues: review"

It's no longer available but I suspect it's about the Lancet paper. From what I remember it was only among hospitalized people and the long term effects were things like fatigue, depression,...

In Japan, nobody below 20 has died from covid. With this kind of stat, why would anyone give an unapproved vaccine to their kid. That would be abuse. Who knows what kind of long term adverse effects they will get.

Nobody has been confirmed to die from COVID, that is different. Also death is not the only negative consequence from the disease.

... and there were no serious cases below 20 years of age (according to https://toyokeizai.net/sp/visual/tko/covid19/en.html)

A safe and effective vaccine is not abuse, if it can be proved there is no significative risk then the opposite is the abuse.

Indeed, if they are proven to be safe, but these vaccines are not. These are unapproved vaccines that have only been authorized for emergency use. And their long term effects remain unknown, no matter how often you say they are safe.

It's no longer available but I suspect it's about the Lancet paper. 

Why not stop guessing or suspecting and go look up information before.

No it was not Lancet nor was the study published in March.

Nor did it only involve people that were hospitalised.

See what happens when not informed and jumping to conclusions.

The study involved mild to severe cases including those not cared in hospital and all aga groups.

The rest you should go look up yourself instead of guessing or using snippets from articles that also use snippets.

... and there were no serious cases below 20 years of age (according to https://toyokeizai.net/sp/visual/tko/covid19/en.html)

Again, not confirmed serious cases the situation in Japan has always has to take in account a very limited identification of cases because of governmental decisions.

Indeed, if they are proven to be safe, but these vaccines are not. These are unapproved vaccines that have only been authorized for emergency use. And their long term effects remain unknown, no matter how often you say they are safe.

Your personal feelings about the vaccines are irrelevant. If the experts running the human trials conclude they are safe then your personal disagreement amounts to zero.

Again, you cant guarantee the virus will not have even more long term risk associated with the infection, so your personal fears about something that has demonstrated to be much safer than the infection in every possible way do not change the fact that it is less risky than COVID-19, specially when talking about long term risks, because for the vaccines there is none identified yet, while for the virus several are already confirmed and more are expected.

It's no longer available but I suspect it's about the Lancet paper. From what I remember it was only among hospitalized people and the long term effects were things like fatigue, depression,...

These are serious problems so your efforts to minimize them as if they had not importance are not valid. If a vaccine had the same problems would you be fine saying that it is something that could be safely disregarded? Obviously not, since you are rejecting the vaccines even without any of those problems.

Now we are finding out more and more that these COVID19 vaccines DO NOTHING to protect you and your children from getting COVID. Statistically, significantly children (99.97% survival and asymptomatic non-spreaders) are NOT in danger of nor do they spread COVID BUT Pharma wants to vaccinate them: 6 months to 12 years old so they can make it a requirement in September 2021 for school. They are NOT spreaders of SARS-COV2.

Risk you take if you vaccinate:

DOES NOT PREVENT COVID - "Breakthrough COVID Cases" are showing up in FULLY VACCINATED individuals months after shot 1 and 2:

3/30/21 - Florida: 38 “fully vaccinated” people test positive for COVID-19 (months later after 2nd shot)

https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2021/03/29/dozens-in-central-florida-contract-covid-19-after-being-fully-vaccinated/

Now we are finding out more and more that these COVID19 vaccines DO NOTHING to protect you and your children from getting COVID. Statistically, significantly children (99.97% survival and asymptomatic non-spreaders) are NOT in danger of nor do they spread COVID BUT Pharma wants to vaccinate them: 6 months to 12 years old so they can make it a requirement in September 2021 for school. They are NOT spreaders of SARS-COV2.

You managed to put only false information in your comment. everyting you wrote has been demonstrated multiple times as false, which is why you cannot prove anything with valid scientific information.

Vaccines protect against developing symptomatic disease, complications or dying from COVID, they also help preventing transmission.

Some children do die from COVID, and as the article proves they can also develop serious complications even if they survive, you may consider this acceptable, but their families don't and if a vaccine can lower these risk the only valid option is to immunize even if your personal opinion is against it.

DOES NOT PREVENT COVID - "Breakthrough COVID Cases" are showing up in FULLY VACCINATED individuals months after shot 1 and 2

Try to search what is the reported efficacy of the vaccine, big hint it is not 100%, some cases are expected, that is what happens in medicine with any health intervention.

What is next, are you going to mention how people can still die of bacterial infections while in treatment with antibiotics to "prove" antibiotics don't kill bacteria? or How some people die of blood loss even after being transfused as "evidence" that transfusions are useless?

Obviously not, because you cannot defend the misleading information you commented.

Why not stop guessing or suspecting and go look up information before.

Yeah, I say "suspect" when I don't absolutely know or remember something perfectly. I am not the kind of person that pretends to know everything or pretend to know what is right or wrong or what the scientific consensus is...

The study involved mild to severe cases including those not cared in hospital and all aga groups.

The rest you should go look up yourself instead of guessing or using snippets from articles that also use snippets.

OK, so why don't you just provide a link to the Lancet article since you seem to know so much about it. Just saying Lancet is pretty broad.

Your personal feelings about the vaccines are irrelevant. If the experts running the human trials conclude they are safe then your personal disagreement amounts to zero.

In the US, these vaccines only received and EUA. And in the official document it says "Under an EUA, FDA may allow the use of unapproved medical products..." These are absolute facts, not my personal feelings.

The vaccines are unapproved. They never got FDA approval. Your personal disagreement with this amounts to zero.

In the US, these vaccines only received and EUA. And in the official document it says "Under an EUA, FDA may allow the use of unapproved medical products..." These are absolute facts, not my personal feelings.

Nothing in your comment contradict that the experts consider the vaccines safe enough to use in the general population, they do not become less safe with an EUA, nor they magically become safer under a full approval. In other words you have not proved they are unsafe, only that you want to believe so.

OK, so why don't you just provide a link to the Lancet article since you seem to know so much about it. Just saying Lancet is pretty broad.

And there we have it, not capable of finding something so simple needs others to do it!

No wonder you are so ill informed on the issue.

Dr. Sean O’Leary: The best way to prevent it is to prevent COVID-19 infections, ‘’which vaccines are very good at doing,’’ he said. COVID-19 vaccine studies in children are underway.

Hmmm....MORE "Breakthrough COVID Cases" are showing up in FULLY VACCINATED individuals months after shot 1 and 2. At least some outlets are reporting these "Breakthrough cases" cause Pharma can no longer say that they did not have their 2nd shot OR it takes 2 additional weeks for the immune response to be effective (these vaxxes are not working to prevent disease):

https://www.kare11.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/vaccinated-minnesota-nurse-stuck-in-mexico-after-testing-positive-for-covid/89-0b170675-00cc-413d-a7d3-eb365a201f36

In the US, these vaccines only received and EUA. And in the official document it says "Under an EUA, FDA may allow the use of unapproved medical products..." These are absolute facts, not my personal feelings.

Nothing in your comment contradict that the experts consider the vaccines safe enough to use in the general population, ...

... for emergency use. Just like AEDs have been approved for treating cardiac arrest, but it doesn't mean that they are completely safe and that should be used to wake someone up in the morning.

they do not become less safe with an EUA, nor they magically become safer under a full approval.

Right, but if they are truly safe, they will eventually be approved.

In other words you have not proved they are unsafe, only that you want to believe so.

All I am saying is that nobody has proven they are safe, only that you want to believe so. In fact, you believed they were perfectly fine even before the trials had started!

Hmmm....MORE "Breakthrough COVID Cases" are showing up in FULLY VACCINATED individuals months after shot 1 and 2. At least some outlets are reporting these "Breakthrough cases" cause Pharma can no longer say that they did not have their 2nd shot OR it takes 2 additional weeks for the immune response to be effective (these vaxxes are not working to prevent disease):

Nope, you are still getting all surprised that the vaccines are not 100% effective, exactly as everybody said from the beginning. A small amount of people can still get the disease, this is something completely expected, and let me tell you another secret that everybody knows, the vaccines are meant to prevent efficiently the development of symptomatic cases, but no vaccine ever produced guarantees that the person will not get an asymptomatic infection. The whole point is to INTERRUPT the infection before it is dangerous, not before it can be detected.

for emergency use. Just like AEDs have been approved for treating cardiac arrest, but it doesn't mean that they are completely safe and that should be used to wake someone up in the morning.

There are a lot of things that can be used on emergency cases, that does not mean they are not safe, specially if they are expected to get a full approval later since the data being collected points out to an even higher degree of safety and efficacy than expected. You still have not proven the vaccines are unsafe, you need data that demonstrate the vaccinated people are at a higher risk than the non-vaccinated population, you don't have that, therefore your personal feelings are incorrect.

Also, the vaccines are NOT intended to be absolutely, perfectly, infinitely, eternally (or whatever superlative you put) safe. They are intended to be simply much safer than not vaccinating, and that is already demonstrated even now. This is easy because COVID increases many kinds of risks, while the vaccines have not been found to increase any (above what a non-vaccinated person would have).

All I am saying is that nobody has proven they are safe, only that you want to believe so. In fact, you believed they were perfectly fine even before the trials had started!

They have been proved to be safe enough to be used in the general population, and more importantly to be hugely safer than not being vaccinated.

Now quote exactly where did I wrote that they were "perfectly" safe before the trials, you are the one that always try to make strawman's with the superlatives. One thing is to say "it is perfectly possible the vaccines will be safe" another completely different to say "the vaccines will be perfectly safe". You really need to understand how words are used in the sentences.

COVID Cases" are showing up in FULLY VACCINATED individuals months after shot 1 and 2. 

wow the ill informed!

Don't even understand that a vaccine is never 100% no Vaccine ever had been.

But go ahead spread whatever false or Ill informed view you have.

Smart people read it and quickly realise that you cannot grasp the simplest of things

@virusrex

You are doing a commendable effort in presenting the facts... unfortunately antivaxxers only accept facts that support their narrative.

Most kids who had COVID-19 don’t develop the post-infection illness. Almost 3.5 million U.S. children and teens have tested positive for COVID-19, according to data compiled by the American Academy of Pediatrics and the Children’s Hospital Association.

COVID VACCINES DO NOT PREVENT DISEASE - What? Isn't prevention of disease the reason why people are looking forward to injecting in the first place? Pharma: Well....vaccines aren't perfect you know but they do reduce cough and headache while risking some negative adverse events (see below). Pro Pharma Lovers want to inject? No one is stopping you. You have the freedom of choice to do so for you and your family.

AGAIN YOUR BODY YOUR CHOICE BUT MAY CAUSE DEATH - 6000% jump in deaths (36 vaccine related deaths reported 2020 over 1st quarter VS 2,249 deaths (added COVID vaxxes to VAERS)!!! as of 3/26/2021 listed on VAERS - Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting system - about 0.8%-1.2% actually reported so multiply that by 99x for a more realistic number). The difference? And they will still say it's not the vaccine and blame it on COVID even if you're fully vaccinated. VAERS DATA (FDA / CDC government data) COMPILED and MOST RECENT UPDATE: 3/26/21 https://medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?TABLE=ON&GROUP1=CAT&EVENTS=ON&VAX=COVID19

COVID VACCINES DO NOT PREVENT DISEASE -

This is false misinformation, sorry but it has already been demonstrated vaccines DO prevent disease, repeating the same lie multiple times do not make it more true, the scientific community have already proved the antivaxxer propaganda is completely false.

You know what makes it so clear? that you are unable to do anything but repeat the same false information over and over again without ever being able to defend it.

After being corrected multiple times over your wrong use of VAERS you keep trying to hide that for all important problems are presented in the same rates no matter if the person is or not vaccinated. It is almost as if you knew the data proved your comment completely false and that is why you feel afraid of making that clear.

....almost.

You are doing a commendable effort in presenting the facts... unfortunately antivaxxers only accept facts that support their narrative.

Correcting false information has value, the intention is never to convince people that put too much of their self value in conspiracies because they take pride in not listening to reason or logic, but to make it clear for anybody else that may read the mistakes so they can realize how wrong all is.

In Japan, nobody below 20 has died from covid. 

still dont get it, kids can still get covid, while dying from it is rare, it does increase the risk of serious respiratory problems later in life by not being vaccinated catching covid compared to being vaccinated