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New treatments for COVID-19 may stave off worst effects of the virus

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Randomized, placebo-controlled trials – in which patients are randomly assigned to receive either the test drug or a placebo – represent medicine’s gold standard.

What about the "opinions" of random wing nuts on the internet? Surely their views are as important as these "so called" experts who have spent years studying medicine.... :)

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Three highly effective vaccines? The second most vaccinated country, Singapore which uses the 3 Big Pharma concoctions, smashed the record for daily infections yesterday. The most vaccinated country, San Marino which doesn't use any Big Pharma concoctions, had zero cases........

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It's all about the vaccines. Never mind about the 3 safe and cheap treatments available but ignored.

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What about the "opinions" of random wing nuts on the internet? Surely their views are as important as these "so called" experts who have spent years studying medicine.... :)

Must have Pfizer and remdesivir stock. remdesivir costs about $3000. per patient.

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IngvarToday  07:55 am JST

Now for the facts.

Few of those vaccinated ended up in hospital, frewer in ICU only one has died and most of those in ICU and the one that died recieved Sinivac which the Singapore Government has now removed those that received Sinovac as being fully vaccinated.

Only those that received Moderna or Pfizer are now considered vaccinated.

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Ironic...if injected with one product and turns out as a failure, you are eventually marked as not vaccinated. The message is clear: "keep experimenting!"

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It's all about the vaccines. Never mind about the 3 safe and cheap treatments available but ignored.

Yes. They only mention those few RCTs that were designed to fail. Whether it's hydroxychloroquine (+ azithromycin), ivermectin, or other repurposed drugs, several studies have shown them to be very effective when given early.

Here is a good presentation on the subject by Dr Steven Hatfill at the recent International Covid Summit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F3uPYiRk7U

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There are hundreds of peer reviewed studies on the treating Covid-19 with HCQ.

And the better designed and controlled ones proved beyon any reasonable doubt that it is completely worthless as a treatment for the disease, no matter at what timing it was used.

Just saying that the studies that proved what you don't want to accept were "designed to fail" has no merit, that is an argument that (if true) could be proved scientifically with specific arguments about the methodology, if you don't have those arguments then the scientific community, that tooks those (and many other) studies as valid triumphs completely against your own uninformed opinion.

The fact is that if HCQ would have been approved for treating Covid-19, the vaccines could not have received EUA and their approval would have required 5-10 years…

Strangely people keep saying that even if it is completely baseless, every time someone ask the people saying this to prove it there is no evidence provided, specially because even in the worst studies HCQ was still not comparable with the protective effect offered by the vaccines.

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Strangely people keep saying that even if it is completely baseless, every time someone ask the people saying this to prove it there is no evidence provided

I and others have already shown you direct quotes from the FDA's website regarding the EUA.

specially because even in the worst studies HCQ was still not comparable with the protective effect offered by the vaccines.

Actually they are better than the vaccines as their effectiveness does not wane with time or with the appearance of variants.

There has never, ever, been any evidence that hydroxychoroquine or ivermectine have prevent Covid. Ever.

... except for the hundreds of peer-reviewed studies and countless testimonials from doctors who have successfully treated patients and ...

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I and others have already shown you direct quotes from the FDA's website regarding the EUA.

Quotes that say that making a commitment for buying doses should be kept? that is completely different from what you said, that is absolutely no proof of the baseless accusation you made.

Actually they are better than the vaccines as their effectiveness does not wane with time or with the appearance of variants.

Nobody has shown even comparable efficacy, much less better, that is just imaginary, specially once elementary controls to eliminate bias are put in order.

except for the hundreds of peer-reviewed studies and countless testimonials from doctors who have successfully treated patients and ..

That is part of what is considered in the actual, properly made metastudies, which demonstrate complete lack of effect. If doctors getting results even after doing something wrong would prove anything then antibiotics would be effective against viral infections, but obviously they are not.

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