Pfizer COVID jab declines faster than AstraZeneca: study

Vaccine passports are going to have expiry dates on them.

So they will be unchanged then, if for example you need to show proof of rabies vaccine to travel to some countries you don't get it forever but only for a few years and then you have to get a new vaccination.

Don't worry though, Big Pharma has a solution.

Your mistake is thinking that booster (that are much more simple to develop and test for efficacy and safety) still need to be made by any company, its been decades since even developing countries can make inactivated virus or protein based vaccines (which would be good enough for a booster), without having to pay one cent to any company.

that are much more simple to develop

I read just a few days ago, that Pfizer can develop a booster within 3 months.

That is really fast!

I was surprised.

But that is good to hear, so if people need a booster, it seems there will be no time problems.

If we need a need a booster then so be it - If I need to update my vaccine passport so be it. Anything to return to travel and socialising normally. Anti-Vaxxers please stay home if you don't want the vaccine. The majority of us would rather you stay away from us and away from our daily lives. Thank God for companies like Pfizer.

Ok so just like you get a flu vaccination every year due to waning immunity levels and new flu strains, you will get a Covid vaccination every year. What's the issue or problem?

Let me know when the peer review accepts this study. For now, it is hearsay and should never have been leaked. Oh ... I see. The study is by Oxford and shows that Oxford-AstraZeneca declines slightly less than Pfizer. Definitely no conflict of interest there. No way.

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when looking at a period of several months after full vaccination, although rates remained low for both jabs.

So, both vaccines have low ... something months later. Does that even tie into how well our cells spin up and fight any new infection?

I see no byline, so who wrote the story?

"Two doses of Pfizer-BioNTech have greater initial effectiveness against new COVID-19 infections, but this declines faster compared with two doses of Oxford-AstraZeneca," researchers at Oxford University said.

I would be interested to hear Pfizer's response to that.

In the UK in most cases, the second dose of the Pfizer vaccine was given 12 weeks after the first. I think the recommended gap by Pfizer was three weeks between doses. Could that have any effect on the results?

(12 weeks between doses was the recommendation for the AZ vaccine.)

Although Pfizer has a higher incidence of breakthrough cases than Moderna, it has been reported that the overwhelming majority of those breakthrough cases have not, so far, required hospitalization, and have not resulted in death. So the news is not all bad.

I keep wondering how, and when, this pandemic will end. The pandemic of one hundred years ago lasted through 1918, 1919, and into 1920. Does that mean that the current pandemic will likely end sometime in 2022?

I have said it before, but if I may.......I grew up listening to my Mom tell me the awful stories of what it was like to live through the pandemic of 1918-1920, in an apartment in New York City. I used to think to myself, "Well, as horrifying as that was, at least I will never have to see something like that in my lifetime." I wish I had been right.

People who don want boosters can sit at home.

If sitting at home and getting cutting off from society is your thing, then go ahead and dont take booster shots.

"Two doses of Pfizer-BioNTech have greater initial effectiveness against new COVID-19 infections, but this declines faster compared with two doses of Oxford-AstraZeneca," researchers at Oxford University said.

I would be interested to hear Pfizer's response to that.

Yeah, I also suspect they might be biased against Pfizer... just like their large RCT that concluded that HCQ was ineffective and toxic!

just like their large RCT that concluded that HCQ was ineffective and toxic!

And they were right about that.

Any proof that states otherwise?

People are setting themselves up for endless vaccines. Stupid is as stupid does.

You mean the vaccines make you live forever? nice!

Yeah, I also suspect they might be biased against Pfizer... just like their large RCT that concluded that HCQ was ineffective and toxic!

Which of the dozens that concluded the same thing? I mean, by now everybody knoww the scientific consensus depends on the whole of the literature, not any single report; even if it is huge and well designed and conducted.

just like their large RCT that concluded that HCQ was ineffective and toxic!

And they were right about that.

Yes, they confirmed the obvious, that giving late stage Covid-19 patients doses much higher than the recommended maximum dose... did not produce positive results.

Hundreds of studies by people who actually have experience treating Covid-19 patients showed positive results, because they knew how to use HCQ (low doses given early, not massive doses given late).

So why should anyone believe Oxford U. comparing their vaccine to their competitor's...

Pfizer has also been confirmed to be highly dishonest (multiple convictions) but I would still like to hear their response to Oxford's conclusions...

Now we know why it’s called COVID-19, cuz you’re gonna need 19 boosters.

So why should anyone believe Oxford U. comparing their vaccine to their competitor's...

Putting Oxfords name doesn’t make it true.

Studies have revealed time and time again that HCQ is not effective.