Pfizer says COVID-19 vaccine works in kids ages 5 to 11

My son just become 7 years old.

Even I am a pro-vaxxer and he got all his necessary kids vaccinations, so far I do refuse to give him the Covid vaccine.

Maybe in a few months or years, I will change my mind, but currently NO!

This is going to be a hot topic.

Maya said it was exciting to be part of the study even though she was “super scared” about getting jabbed. But “after you get it,

Honestly, whoever talks like this when getting an injection ? " it was exciting " others that I have read, Can't wait to get my first shot - looking forward to my second - best thing I have ever done, Really ?

Insanity. In this age group, the kids face many times more risk from the "cure" than they do from the disease. And, as we know, the vaccine is far from being a cure. The greed of criminal pharmaceutical companies mixed with mass hysteria and fear among the public and coercive rulings from the government. Great profits to be made.

Really? For comparison's sake, what are the numbers behind that?

Ever heard of something called the internet? It's EVERYWHERE.

Pro vax = Anti-choice..Anti-opinion..Anti-thought

Kids will gain natural immunity and create true herd immunity in the future.

Vaccinating children with provisionlly approved vaccines is dangerous and unneccesary as kids AREN'T dying from covid! For the most part they don't vene know they have covid.

Maybe in a few months or years, I will change my mind, but currently NO!

It is early still. After 500K other kids have it and the medical community has found it to be safe and effective beyond the 20K trials, then it would be much more likely to be accepted in the pro-vaccine groups.

Polio, smallpox, Tetanus, etc. Did people forget about those vaccines?

Too many people love to minimize the risks of injection and exaggerate the risks of infection, especially in healthy kids.

The ones dying of covid are the same ones who would be dying from influenza. Influenza vaccination is a choice so should covid be!

wrong flu is about 1/10 as fatal as covid, flu doesnt kill over 4 million a year

Overall, yes. But for kids, the flu is much more deadly.

That is false, if a disease is so much easier to contract that even very strong measures are insufficient to prevent contagions that means it is more deadly.

https://www.khou.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/verify-covid-19-more-pediatric-deaths-than-flu-last-18-months/285-2b3fef00-454b-4b43-a873-573ff6afffe7

What's it called? Ad hominem something or whatsoever???

No, that's not ad hominem.

You do realize you could have googled the definition and figured that out yourself quicker than asking us, right?

Insanity. In this age group, the kids face many times more risk from the "cure" than they do from the disease.

Really? For comparison's sake, what are the numbers behind that?

I'll happily give my kids the vaccine

https://www.news.com.au/national/influenza-still-dwarfs-covid19-deaths/video/ed7adc50f8df7f276eea867c5e9cb574

oh no the sky is falling.

The problem here is anyone with Covid has died FROM covid which is patently false.

over reporting Covid deaths and underreporting Flu deaths.

Provax = antichoice!

No long term side effect data on the provisional vaccines and people are happy to give them to their kids??? who by the way won't die from Covid! They will be the ones who build long term immunity from it though by catching it and recovering from it.

the sky is falling brigade is losing steam and people are waking up to their rhetoric of fear and coercion by promoting this Pro... Anti.. BS

Natural immunity is 10 times better than these vaccines which lose efficacy after 6 months.

The problem here is anyone with Covid has died FROM covid which is patently false.

The "problem" is what is false, it is well recognized that people can die with COVID, what antiscientific propaganda tries to hide is that this is a very important thing to take into account. If a patient have diabetes he can still expect to live a few decades with the disease, but if he gets COVID it becomes much more likely he will die in the following days, even if the death is primarily due to diabetes COVID is obviously a very important contributing factor.

over reporting Covid deaths and underreporting Flu deaths.

Any evidence of this? there is a very obvious explanation for the sudden and important decrease of influenza, that was predicted since before the social distancing measures were fully in place. Imagining that people are getting influenza in secret and giving false negative results in the tests (that are still being done to detect it) is only imaginary.

If your vaccines are so good why are the most vaccinated countries not open and free?

If the vaccines are so bad, how come the vaccinated people are doing much better than non-vaccinated ones?

You are confusing between something being effective and something being absolutely perfect. Antibiotics are very good against infections, but people still die from them. Helmets and seatbelts are in the same situation. If no country has yet reached the levels necessary to acquire herd immunity (for which irrational vaccine hesitancy have a role) why do you expect to see the consequences of reaching it.

Pro vax = Anti-choice..Anti-opinion..Anti-thought

More like Pro-vax = anti irrationality, anti lies and anti self-centered decisions.

Healthy kids aren't dying from covid and natural immunity offers a much better outcome than the after 6 month worthless pfizer!

Healthy kids aren't dying from covid and natural immunity offers a much better outcome than the after 6 month worthless pfizer

This is the anti-vaxxers current iteration of "it's no worse than the flu!" (a year later, millions are dead)

Insanity. In this age group, the kids face many times more risk from the "cure" than they do from the disease. 

Any evidence about this? you know that some children do die from COVID infection, right? and that even asymptomatic minor can get evidence of cardiac problems if examined. One thing is to consider the benefits marginal, another completely different is to lie and say the dangers are higher.

Healthy kids aren't dying from covid and natural immunity offers a much better outcome than the after 6 month worthless pfizer!

Since the outcome means exposing anybody to the full risks of the infection this is obviously not true.

Too much people love to minimize the risks of infection and exaggerate the risks of vaccines, they also keep forgetting that not all children are "perfectly healthy" nor they are surrounded only by healthy people. Testing a vaccine and proving it is safe and effective is a huge thing that will help countless families protecting children that have increased risk of even dying from the disease or that could transmit it to other members that may not be able to be vaccinated or that get only incomplete protection.

These are great news for those families, even if the antivaxxers consider them not worth being considered.

wrong flu is about 1/10 as fatal as covid, flu doesnt kill over 4 million a year

Overall, yes. But for kids, the flu is much more deadly.

And did any of those vaccines not work like the covid one? Because the covid one doesn't.

Someone who doesn't understand the concept of advances in medicine apparently.

How about presenting real news articles from real doctors in the field, experts in viruses research, nurses who work in ICU's, funeral directors and testimonies from families that have lost loved ones from the "so called " vaccines. Also, look at the statistics from the CDC, FDA, Vaers reports and European statistics on deaths and injuries related to these so called vaccines. It is known that these reports are under reported but it gives you a good idea of what is going on.

So when the best available evidence, controlled and adjusted to reduce bias and noise, say something you don't like your solution is to go down to worse kinds of evidence? what if that don't support your views? will you ask people to go even lower and listen to hearsay and rumors? Your appeal makes no sense, we know personal accounts are more likely to be mistaken, specially if you ask people to search for only one side of those accounts and ignore the much more numerous contrary testimonies.

Also the statistics you mention are the ones that support the safety of vaccines, directly contradicting your point.

I really recommend listening to the latest FDA video on the vaccines

Antivaxxers find difficult to spend 3 seconds to read even a headline, but you expect them to listen to 8 hours of data and analysis that prove vaccines are safe and effective?

Too many people love to minimize the risks of injection and exaggerate the risks of infection, especially in healthy kids.

When people fail to produce any evidence of those risks from "injection" it becomes easy to ignore them, after all failing to produce that evidence is precisely the point. And nobody needs to exaggerate the risks of infection, they are there to be seen clearly even in the article. Can you prove 460 minors dying from the vaccine? else how can you prove the risks are higher for them from the vaccine?

Really? For comparison's sake, what are the numbers behind that?

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Anyone want to bet on whether the person who downvoted that bases their opinion on data or rhetoric?

And they’ve also created a vaccine against a virus as well as countless other drugs that have benefitted humanity.

Who woulda thunk that the real world would be nuanced and not black and white?