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Researchers trial magnetic 'lockjaw' against obesity

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Imagine having such little willpower to just stop eating.

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The willful ignorance and disdain of science is pathetic.

But Mr Kipling is fundamentally correct on the science. No matter how many medical conditions you suffer from or how out of balance your hormones are, you are still bound by the laws of thermodynamics. The only way to gain weight is by consuming and storing more energy than your body burns. If your body starts burning less calories due to a medical condition like hypothyroidism, it also means you should start eating less to match your bodies new reduced energy requirements.

some people have a physical disability that limits mobility

Some people spend decades in a coma without lifting a finger but they don't become obese. As long as your calories and diet are properly matched to your body type and lifestyle, you will not become obese. The problem ultimately boils down to overeating. Medical conditions, addiction and sedentary lifestyles only compound the problem.

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Wow. This is insane.

Here's another crazy idea. Put down the bag of potato chips, stop slurping down the oversized Coke. Eat as much fresh produce as you desire.

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Obese people consume more calories than they need. The "reasons" for this whether they are "emotional" or have mobility problems is irrelevant. They still eat too much. The simple answer is to consume fewer calories. Don't make excuses for them. It doesn't help them in the long run.

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although one woman admitted cheating the liquid diet by melting chocolate to get a sugary hit.

This made me laugh. But at the same time, gets right to the heart of the real issue. Calorie-dense, ultra processed "foods".

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But at the same time, gets right to the heart of the real issue.

They really don't care about their health as much as they like chocolate, ice cream, chips and ..... cake.

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The dental version of the chastity belt!

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The willful ignorance and disdain of science is pathetic.

But Mr Kipling is fundamentally correct on the science.

That's not the ignorance I was calling him out on. I was calling him out on this:

The simple answer is to consume fewer calories. Don't make excuses for them. It doesn't help them in the long run.

It was the disdain the idea that there is more to learn about the situation than just "less calories = lose weight", or that there is any other way to help them than just to just decide not to eat so much.

Simple people think the real world has simple solutions. People with intelligence recognize that the real world is complex, and there are very rarely ever simple solutions. If this was simple to solve, we'd have almost no fat people.

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So it is only a revisit of the "rubber band diet"?

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Mr Kipling:

Obese people consume more calories than they need.

Well then, they should stop eating your cakes.

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M3M3M3.....

Not anymore, in 2021 its never anyone's own fault if they have a problem. Its not THEIR fault they eat a family sixed pizza for a snack. We must feel sorry for them.

Of course we are programed to eat, and to choose high calorie foods. 3,000 years ago it made sense. But today, if you are a couch potato, you need to stop and think before popping that 6th exceedingly delicious cake into your face.

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Always excuses to allow people to continue to self harm. Personally, I say let them eat and get fat, eventually that lifestyle will catch up and help them to the other side.

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Strangerland...

Sometimes the obvious and simple solution is the answer. Sugar coating and looking for others to blame isn't helping either. Denying the obvious is not smart either.

The "reasons" why they eat too much do not make any difference to their weight gain.

I have a friend from my hometown who was nearly 200 kg. His doctor asked him if he knew why there so few pensioners his size. He was told it was because they were all dead. He eventually lost nearly half his weight but now has problems with his knees from carrying all that weight for so long.

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Wow just eat your vegetables. Or drink them. http://www.rebootwithjoe.com/watch-fat-sick-and-nearly-dead/.

Is now free online.

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Imagine going to the dentist and not being able to pay your dental bill!! There the answer LOCKJAW until paid in full. Once the bill is paid the dentist unlocks your jaw LOL

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This looks like horror movie material. O.o

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If you invent something that works like a torture device, some folk will use it for that purpose. Expect this to be used in such places.

Surely this is overkill just to stop people eating too much.

Obesity kills people. It shortens their lives by placing a strain on their bodies and damages their mobility.

Sometimes there is a straight medical reason for weight gain.

Often there is a psychological reason for it, and getting people back to a safer weight requires counselling to help them understand why they eat too much, and how they can stop, combined with a diet, support and sometimes multiple surgeries as their bodies reduce in size. It's tough going.

For most, who might just be increasing in weight and don't like where it is leading, it's a matter of getting a good diet and an exercise routine. Not a puritanical one. You aren't training to be an athlete and there is no need to ban all treats, as long as your core diet is a good one.

Most people eat too much processed/'junk' food, too much salt, fat and sugar, too few vegetables and fibre, drink too little water and too much alcohol and coffee. Reduce your alcohol to a maximum on one (small) glass of wine a day, replace all of your coffees with one or two matcha and water, allow yourself one (small) treat a day and do 30-60 minutes of exercise a day after checking with your doctor. You'll be fine.

If your view of your body differs markedly from your bmi, please speak to a counsellor.

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Ridiculous. The people who would need this gadget would not get in the first place or find ways around it when installed. And installing into people against their will is a road that I doubt NZ wants to go down.

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What about magnetic handcuffs?...

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That's all well and good, but how do the magnets taste?

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I really hope they don't do that to someone against their will, such as a parent to an obese child. It seems like torture, the wrong way to go about it.

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Always excuses to allow people to continue to self harm.

As I said before:

The willful ignorance and disdain of science is pathetic.

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Sometimes the obvious and simple solution is the answer. Sugar coating and looking for others to blame isn't helping either. Denying the obvious is not smart either.

As I said, simple people think there are simple answers.

I have a friend from my hometown who was nearly 200 kg. His doctor asked him if he knew why there so few pensioners his size. He was told it was because they were all dead. He eventually lost nearly half his weight but now has problems with his knees from carrying all that weight for so long.

Neat story bruh.

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My point Mr. Kipling is that they should not be tortured to lose weight by weird gadgets. Also, just blithely saying eat fewer calories is not helpful to someone who has a slow metabolism due to hormone or other imbalances. I am sure most obese persons would rather not be in that position, just like an idiot would probably rather not be stupid.

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What would happen when one of these patients sneezes or has a cough due to snot coming down from nose ??? Do you choke or do your teeth fly out at great speed? By the way, liquid foods include sugar syrup, honey and drinking chocolate. I would expect a more intelligent solution to obesity in the age of DNA mapping and AI computers... This idea makes those researchers look like complete sadistic retards!

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Cake in moderation, can be part of a healthy balanced diet!

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Yes, some people have a physical disability that limits mobility or an emotional issue that causes overeating. Perhaps you understand this well.

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Obese people consume more calories than they need. The "reasons" for this whether they are "emotional" or have mobility problems is irrelevant. They still eat too much. The simple answer is to consume fewer calories. Don't make excuses for them. It doesn't help them in the long run.

Yes because understanding something better never allowed humanity to figure out ways to improve, right?

The willful ignorance and disdain of science is pathetic.

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today, if you are a couch potato, you need to stop and think before popping that 6th exceedingly delicious cake into your face.

As I said, simple people only come up with simple solutions. Not real world solutions.

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Yes, some people have a physical disability that limits mobility or an emotional issue that causes overeating. Perhaps you understand this well.

I've never been above 15% body fat in my life (as far as I know). So I don't know this issue on a personal level.

But I do know the science behind addiction, and it's not willpower.

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Imagine having such little willpower to just stop eating.

Oh, you haven't read the science behind the matter.

Scientifically willpower has little to do with it. But keep speaking rhetoric, it makes you look smart. Really!

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