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FDA adds warning of rare reaction risk to J&J COVID vaccine

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By MATTHEW PERRONE and MIKE STOBBE

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Being optimistic these kind of news would be enough to prove the conspiracies about pushing vaccines and hiding their side effects are just nonsense, (hopefully it will work this way for rational people that can see how it is clear it is not the case), but unfortunately there will always be people that will not hesitate to contradict themselves to use this as a proof of both, vaccines being unsafe (they are not) and that negative effects are systematically hidden (they are neither).

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My NY brother and his wife had the J&J vaccine in June. Since then he has some neurological problems which ain’t good.

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My NY brother and his wife had the J&J vaccine in June. Since then he has some neurological problems which ain’t good.

Sorry to hear this; hope he’s able to recover with negligible effects.

Being optimistic these kind of news would be enough to prove the conspiracies about pushing vaccines and hiding their side effects are just nonsense, (hopefully it will work this way for rational people that can see how it is clear it is not the case)

Rational people already know the conspiracies about pushing vaccines and hiding the side effects are absolute nonsense. Those who buy into these theories cannot be helped.

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The New York Times in its daily charts reports that 1 in every 408 Californians has, so far, died from Covid. While it is important that vaccines and their side effects be as safe as possible, the J & J vaccine is far safer than the alternative.

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Being optimistic these kind of news would be enough to prove the conspiracies about pushing vaccines and hiding their side effects are just nonsense, (hopefully it will work this way for rational people that can see how it is clear it is not the case), but unfortunately there will always be people that will not hesitate to contradict themselves to use this as a proof of both, vaccines being unsafe (they are not) and that negative effects are systematically hidden (they are neither).

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Rational people already know the conspiracies about pushing vaccines and hiding the side effects are absolute nonsense. Those who buy into these theories cannot be helped.

I thought I read the article. How did I miss the part about conspiracy theories?

you know it’s funny the anti-conspiracy theory folks sure do like to talk about conspiracy theories. Even when it’s not mentioned in the article.

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Whether or not this J&J vaccine causes cross reactions with just certain haplotypes is yet to be determined. If so, there is little to be done except try to find the specific genetic markers and test for them before using the vaccine. Despite being a very small population, the effects upon the individual are devastating. And we might expect to see this anytime we directly address the immune system because we have such a profound lack of understanding for the immune system in general. We may actually know more about our CNS than about the details of immune function and it's a jungle of difficulty in studying it. Even the things we can see, such as malaise (increased vulnerability to predation) and sepsis, we assume to be disease states but, in biological herd reality, are the REAL herd immunity. Just like the body has mechanisms (e.g. apoptosis) to eliminate diseased individual cells, the genepool has mechanisms to eliminate diseased individual animals from the pool before they spread their death to everyone else. And we share this mechanism with almost all other mammals. It's unfortunate that J&J has this effect, however small, but I suspect we will find similar or worse effects associating with any vaccine for some small segment of our genepool. And that may be the point of highly variable subsets of immune protection we see from individual to individual, because the genepool must, in toto, have individuals who, collectively, have resistance to every conformation of antigen. A 'hole' (or cross reaction) in an individual's immune surveillance can kill the individual. A hole in the genepool's collective resistance, no resistance, can kill an entire genepool. Some individuals will react badly to certain 'new' antigens no matter what the effects for the crowd. Ironically, that might be considered a sign of a healthy genepool level immune response rather than pharmaceutical in competence.

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incompetence

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I thought I read the article. How did I miss the part about conspiracy theories?

How do you reach the conclusion that this comes from the article? I think I missed the part where it is written in the comment, can you point it out?

Whether or not this J&J vaccine causes cross reactions with just certain haplotypes is yet to be determined.

By this point with literally millions over millions of doses distributed around the world? realistically impossible. Specially because single protein vaccines have much less targets for the immunity to cause cross reactions, if this was a realistic possibility you would have observed it already for people exposed to many viral proteins, and even to many small variations of the proteins, like the tens of millions that have been infected already.

Your opinion on "genepool" problems make no sense either, you go back and forward between individuals and populations as if they were the same thing, and still adhere to the discarded notion that specific variations that are disadvantageous for an individual must also be so for populations, in humans this is not the case and a big part of the survival "strategy" is based on genetic variance (and in modern times technical advantage to aid the survival of people independently of specific genetic fitness).

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Moderna and Pfizer are still the gold standards.

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My bad! Seems they're releasin it slowly by installment!

What's new for August?

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