Vaccine doubts spread like disease, must be taken offline: vaccine chief

How about just letting people speak their minds and make their own choices in life.

Because said people are unclean and diseased. They carry sickness. They carry death.

Of course he wants them gone. Profits are crashing as a result of thousands of doctors and scientists speaking out against some vaccines and their ingredients.

And I guess the parents whose children died within hours of large vaccination doses, are just deluded.

As Burning Bush said, let people make up their own minds. Why would a vaccinated person worry about catching a disease from an unvaccinated one?

Global Warming hype with another face. The trend is to trust what your body is telling you, not what social media & others are saying. Without getting political, if people trusted social media and known Hollywood faces and media in general, Trump today wouldn't be president. I trust people's intuition over big biz disinformation for the sake of a profit. How can you uncouple these two?

Vaccinations are important but there are circumstances of real risks to individuals. The lack of information and warnings to people is the problem here. I agree that vaccinations are necessary, but doctors need to advise each patient (or their guardian) about what to do or what not to do immediately after shots are administered.

My son suffered an attack from a virus that left him partially blind in his left eye. He was 15 yrs old at the time and needed one more vaccination before attending school overseas. No-one at the hospitals could find the virus or the cause of the virus until one particular doctor mentioned that he has seen a case or two of viruses attacking babies shortly after a vaccination. Only then we realised what had happened.

Had we have been told that we should look out for anything strange occurring with my son's body over the one week period after the vaccination, we might have been able to cure him of the damage.

The point is, medical organisations need to research ways to prevent such problems in the near future, and provide enough information of the do's and don'ts for parents who are having their children vaccinated. Perhaps then and only then, will more people feel safer about vaccinations.

I do not really understand what some of the comments here are trying to say, but I do know that it is very hard for a parent to make the 'right' yes/no informed choice for their child, knowing that whichever decision they take, it might result in death or injury to that child. "Will I regret this for the rest of my life?"

A freedom of information thingy was dont to find out is Obama's kids had been vaccinated and it turned out they had not....

It might be helpful to list which vaccines are more important. The value of the measles vaccine is different from that of the chickenpox vaccine.

because people don't understand statistics and data

I don't fully buy that. I think most people want to be informed. Simply saying "vaccines are safe" (or "vaccines are dangerous") isn't very convincing. I'd like to know the risk of not having a particular vaccination versus the risk of having it.

It is a shame that it is usually children who have to suffer from the lack of vaccinations, while it is the ignorance of their parents that leads to their suffering.

If you'd actually, rather than hypothetically, like to know, you would already have informed yourself about the risk of each of the diseases being vaccinated against. So if you haven't bothered yet, start there.

Exactly. But where do people start - they just end up down a rabbit hole of conspiracy theories that litter the internet.

I try to (or used to) find out the risks or diseases versus the vaccination. I had my daughter vaccinated against measles when it wasn't part of the regular program. Both my kids received all the recommended vaccines when they were kids. I support vaccination programs. But I get angry at the simplistic pro-vaccine versus anti-vaccine arguments.

All of the vaccine-preventable diseases are potentially fatal, even those that people have convinced themselves are benign, like chickenpox.

And do you know why the chickenpox vaccine is not part of the recommended set, at least not in the UK? One fear is that it may increase the risk of later life chickenpox or shingles, a relatively more serous problem than childhood chicken pox. Notice I used "relatively". All diseases are potentially fatal as are all medicines. We should be more open about this and not try to hide from the data.

I know a woman in her late 50s who is a probable victim of a childhood vaccination. Wheelchair bound and with learning difficulties. I say "probable" because we can't usually know for sure whether someone's condition is a result of vaccination or from other causes. But she fits the pattern. She's basically a human sacrifice, but I suppose her sacrifice is for the greater good. How should she feel about that?

The cases of measles have risen in Western countries because of rampant migration from 3rd-World countries, NOT because of un-vaccinated citizens.

Anyway, remember when getting the measles was normal? You'd get it once and that was it. And your body was stronger for getting it. Too many nosey kidults now that think they have the right to tell you what to put in your and your children's bodies. If you are vaccinated, you shouldn't have to worry about the unvaccinated, right? Mind your own gawddam business!

Anyway, remember when getting the measles was normal? You'd get it once and that was it. And your body was stronger for getting it.

If you don't die first, or hospitalized, or suffer encephalitis and become disabled, or infect pregnant mothers before their babies are immunized

Remember when before vaccines, the mortality rate for measles is 400-500 people die in the US every year:

"Late 19th-Century Maps Show Measles Mortality Before Vaccines"

https://slate.com/human-interest/2015/02/history-of-measles-mortality-maps-from-a-time-before-vaccines.html

between 1953 and 1963, when the measles vaccine became available, “nearly all children got measles by the time they were 15 years of age.” Yearly, “400 to 500 people died, 48,000 were hospitalized, and 4,000 suffered encephalitis (swelling of the brain) from measles.”

While late-19th-century medicine didn’t yet have a vaccine for the disease, doctors knew that it was easily transmissible. “Measles is a very infectious disease,” warned Dr. John Dewar in an 1890 book written for mothers and titled What Ails The Baby? “If a child be only taken into a room for a very short time, where another child is suffering from measles, it is almost certain to take it.” The 1898 map, second below, shows a pattern of measles deaths that is strikingly aligned with the course of the Mississippi River, illustrating how transmission could have been aided by river travel. 

And that's the US - an advanced country relative to others. Imagine the mortality rate in less advanced countries. Play Russian roulette with your loved ones

Unvaccinated people easily become carriers especially for highly transmissible diseases like measles. It doesn't take many to start a widespread

Also, children can still decide to become vaccinated once they turn 18 (or even younger) even if their parents don't approve:

"Teen defies anti-vaccine parents, gets shots"

https://fox8.com/2019/02/11/teen-defies-anti-vaccine-parents-gets-shots/

For many teenagers, turning 18 years old means celebrating at a party but for one Norwalk teen it meant going to get a slew of vaccinations he no longer needed his parents' permission to receive.

[For younger teenagers] Regulations vary from state to state, but in general, some minors can access certain treatments without parental consent. Vaccines are not always specified on this list, but in some states the law is vague enough that a minor could potentially have a legal right to a vaccination.