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Viruses may be 'watching' you – some microbes lie in wait until their hosts give them the signal to start multiplying

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The idea that a virus "Lies in waiting" is not new.

Lots of research has been done on the "stealth" of the Herpes virus ( in all it's incarnations).

The ubiquitous Herpes virus is surely responsible directly or indirectly for many of modern humans various health afflictions.

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People should learn from this. Where does the fake science come from?

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It's as if a whole swath of humanity has had their immune systems compromised in some way.

Some doctors are baffled.

Others... not so much.

Don’t be shy, say what you are thinking.

Or is it one of the those top secret truths that only a select few know and is too dangerous to share?

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This is true, as the WHO, for example, took their eye off the ball on the malaria crisis. 

Which is understandable and desirable, because a bigger more urgent matter had to be dealt with immediately to prevent even worse consequences. That is not an error, it is a negative consequence of the pandemic even if you personally want to consider everything the WHO does as a mistake even if the experts working on the field do not support that personal judgment. Reducing the use of insecticide on houses to be replaced by more effective and less risky interventions (like Insecticide-impregnated bed nets) is not a mistake either.

Obviously this is not a medical or scientific conclusion.

Since you make no argument to demonstrate it so, this is again just something you don't want to accept but you can't disprove either, so you make a baseless appeal to your own authority to decide this, which of course has not validlty.

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....more-effective vaccines.

Huh?

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How is it desirable to have deaths attributed to malaria (600,000) considerably higher than deaths attributed to Covid-19 (less than 200,000)? This not not a scientifically accurate analysis. Global experts don't agree with that "assessment."

Mainly because your information is false, deaths attributed to covid are over 6 million, and that is with emergency measures put forward that limited the number to a fraction of what would have happened if covid was not made a priority.

This not not a scientifically accurate analysis. Global experts don't agree with that "assessment."

Again making an appeal to global experts you can never bring? that is (the same as every time you do this) still an empty excuse you are trying to use to push your personal opinion as if it came from someone with actual authority.

Let's see statistics that back up your claim.

See, there is nothing wrong with recognizing you ignore completely a topic and that is why you make wrong judgments, this is elementary for people actually involved with malaria and is not even something new

https://www.cdc.gov/malaria/malaria_worldwide/reduction/itn.html

China is doing what they have been doing for almost three years. And without the millions of deaths that the West incurred.

But with more deaths than some countries that have never had to destroy the livehood of the people in the site of an oubreak, that never had to let people die because they interrupted access to health services and without completely erasing human rights and abuse their power to harrass people using the policy as an excuse. This means the measures are unnecessary to get even better results than China, and all according to the same sources you brought to mistakenly say the opposite.

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Nope. As noted, Africa experienced more deaths by malaria than Covid 19:

And again, that is not the total number of deaths that happened in the world, it is the WHO, no the AHO. And once again this is the number of deaths produced while life changing measures were put in place, which means that not making covid a priority as it was done would have resulted in much higher deaths.

Nice! Your own source supports my statement about how the WHO mistakenly advised reducing insecticide use!!

No, it did not, that mistake is completely yours, you said it was a mistake to reduce insecticide spraying in houses, but that is no mistake because the use of impregnated nets is a much efficient use which is why the WHO recommends FOR using it instead of spraying, which means you are still wrong on this because you did not understand that spraying is old, inefficient and riskier compared with the use of nets.

So you are still wrong on that, you just did not understand why.

Also, where are the experts that you said disagreed? you brought exactly zero of them, are you accepting they don't actually exist?

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Mainly because your information is false, deaths attributed to covid are over 6 million, and that is with emergency measures put forward that limited the number to a fraction of what would have happened if covid was not made a priority.

Nope. As noted, Africa experienced more deaths by malaria than Covid 19:

Africa recorded over 600,000 malaria deaths in 2021, says WHO

https://newsdigest.ng/africa-recorded-malaria/#:~:text=NEWS%20DIGEST%20–%20The%20World%20Health%20Organization%20%28WHO%29,the%20estimated%20228%20million%20cases%20of%20the%20disease.

See, there is nothing wrong with recognizing you ignore completely a topic and that is why you make wrong judgments, this is elementary for people actually involved with malaria and is not even something new

https://www.cdc.gov/malaria/malaria_worldwide/reduction/itn.html

Nice! Your own source supports my statement about how the WHO mistakenly advised reducing insecticide use!!

Insecticide-treated bed nets (ITNs) are a form of personal protection that has been shown to reduce malaria illness, 

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This is a very interesting field of study and it can be important even for human therapies. For the development of human viral vectors that deliver gene therapy it is very important to get as much of those viruses as possible with the least amount of complications and money, so the therapies using them do not become so expensive nobody can use them.

Classically this meant cultivating the viruses in cells being growth with as much care as possible, so nothing affects the viral replication (made weak on purpose so the vectors are safe for humans). That have changed now that research have demonstrated viruses replicate more when the cells receive some damage as described in the article, so cultivating cells with a different pH, or less nutrients makes them receive a limited amount of damage and this increase the production of the vectors.

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It's as if a whole swath of humanity has had their immune systems compromised in some way.

No, it is not. Efforts to control infectious disease of global important have decreased because of the pandemic, so obviously an increase of cases has been expected without any kind of forced theory to explain it.

The same happens with diseases that depend on congenital malformations, less than healthy life styles or pollution. Nobody wonders why this happens nor the experts are blaming some compromise of the immune system.

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Viruses may be 'watching' you – some microbes lie in wait until their hosts give them the signal to start multiplying

This is common knowledge. The viruses on the small scale look for a healthy environment to invade.

This is true, as the WHO, for example, took their eye off the ball on the malaria crisis. 

Which is understandable and desirable, because a bigger more urgent matter had to be dealt with immediately to prevent even worse consequences. 

How is it desirable to have deaths attributed to malaria (600,000) considerably higher than deaths attributed to Covid-19 (less than 200,000)? This not not a scientifically accurate analysis. Global experts don't agree with that "assessment."

Reducing the use of insecticide on houses to be replaced by more effective and less risky interventions (like Insecticide-impregnated bed nets) is not a mistake either.

Let's see statistics that back up your claim.

Elvis is hereSep. 21  09:13 am JST

The pickle China is now is the their fault as the pandemic might be ending for some, it's only stating for China.

China is doing what they have been doing for almost three years. And without the millions of deaths that the West incurred.

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Phages control bacterial populations in nature, and clinicians are increasingly using them to treat bacterial infections that do not respond to antibiotics.

This is true. And bacteriophages exist wherever bacteria exist. They are estimated to be more than every other organism on Earth. It is important to know that phages do not infect humans,  They are targeted bacterial viruses that have multiple antibacterial effector functions that can reduce multidrug-resistant infections in people.

Efforts to control infectious disease of global important have decreased because of the pandemic, so obviously an increase of cases has been expected without any kind of forced theory to explain it.

This is true, as the WHO, for example, took their eye off the ball on the malaria crisis. Another error the WHO made was to reduce the focus on household insecticide spraying to interrupt malaria transmission.

Nobody wonders why this happens nor the experts are blaming some compromise of the immune system.

Obviously this is not a medical or scientific conclusion.

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