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What is it like to take part in a vaccine trial?

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For people that understand how much science has improved the life of all humans being a volunteer for a vaccine trial is not such a big sacrifice, in a way is like donating blood; you get something back, a little bit of money for your inconveniences and a chance of being immunized, but the real purpose is to benefit everybody.

For people that deny science this is unconceivable, their minds are full of conspiracies where all doctors and nurses of the world are willing to kill and maim their patients, friends and family so someone else can get money. So, volunteers are just risking themselves to help hiding that truth, for them no vaccine, no drug is helpful, no evidence will ever be enough to prove they are safe, that is why they try to ridicule and diminish the people that choose to participate and go to regular checks, even when they themselves benefit from the trials.

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It’s like swimming with some sharks , as they look so cuuute... lol

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If the women on the trial are taking birth control, couldn't that affect how the medicine from the vaccine works? Like mixing medicines? Would it work the same on women who aren't taking birth control? I don't know much about medicine, I'm genuinely asking.

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If the women on the trial are taking birth control, couldn't that affect how the medicine from the vaccine works? Like mixing medicines? Would it work the same on women who aren't taking birth control? I don't know much about medicine, I'm genuinely asking.

They would ask participants before the vaccine what drugs they are taking, so as to be able to track if there are any issues with women taking birth control.

But as this is a respiratory illness, and birth control is reproductive, I don't imagine there would be much crossover. That's speculation though.

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If the women on the trial are taking birth control, couldn't that affect how the medicine from the vaccine works?

The vaccine is not directly producing an effect on the virus but only stimulating the body to produce immunity. Birth control is in essence just modifying the normal cycle to skip the ovulation. (Or even less, depending on the kind of birth control used). There is no real possibility that this would interfere with the normal production of immunity, if that were the case it would have been found a long time ago (because women would be too obviously very susceptible to infections while in one part of the cycle).

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"Volunteers are paid $2,400 over the course of the two-year study."

Risk your life/well-being for a mere 2400 $ , a covid hero t-shirt and watch Big Pharma

make billions off it...

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Human trials of a Big Pharma pharmaceutical are not just to determine if a substance actually has any effect on the targeted condition, but even more importantly, to see if the substance looks as though profits from its sale will be greater than the liability judgements paid to its users from heinous, and possibly lifelong, side effects. If the drug looks like it can be marketed successfully and passes the profitability test, regardless of any significant effect on the disease or condition and side effects will be unprovable or minimally expensive in tort proceedings, it has passed Human trials. For example, if you look at the fine print in your drug ad and it says "This concoction is effective when combined with diet and exercise" and you know that diet and exercise are all you really need to do anyway...well, think about it. Taking ANY pharmaceutical is spinning a big 'wheel of fortune' whose only grand prizes are not suffering side effects because of the many individual physiological (and psychological) differences between us Humans that make ALL substances risky for somebody, including milk. The only real difference between Human trials and lab rats is that the Human (probably) won't be dissected at the end (unless an autopsy is necessary). Regarding vaccines for Covid, it appears that in America, at least, we will be getting the vaccine months (April) after we will see max infections (circa January) and the peak has begun to decline on its own. And just America will have 500,000 fatalities by then. Stay safe!

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Moderna is a company that has never produced anything to my knowledge.

Their untested and unproven vaccine causes cells to be ‘programmed’ as a real virus would using mRNA.

Straight from the lab to human trials-what could go wrong?

In another 3-6 months the virus causing the pandemic should be of a mutated form no longer dangerous to humans thus any need for a vaccine will no longer be relevant.

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Human trials of a Big Pharma pharmaceutical are not just to determine if a substance actually has any effect on the targeted condition, but even more importantly, to see if the substance looks as though profits from its sale will be greater than the liability judgements paid to its users from heinous, and possibly lifelong, side effects.

Wild imaginations stated as if they were facts do not make them so. In all developed countries every single lot of vaccine is tested for safety and efficacy, making the whole "profitability above safety" easily proved as false.

There are many health interventions that are not made for profit, and many human trials performed by people that do not benefit economically from them.

The real purpose of testing is not to make sure there is absolutely no risk whatsoever (something impossible) but to demonstrate that not taking the drug/vaccine means more risk, scientifically.

Try reading more about how human trials are performed, your oversimplification is too easy to demonstrate as mistaken because you have no knowledge about it.

Moderna is a company that has never produced anything to my knowledge.

Their untested and unproven vaccine causes cells to be ‘programmed’ as a real virus would using mRNA.

Most companies have never produced a vaccine, it the norm. For all the diseases with easy vaccines there have been one for decades, a new disease means a new chance for any company to make its first vaccine because no extraordinary hurdle is there.

And no, RNA do not "program" the cell, it is not DNA, it never goes inside the nucleus, it cannot even self replicate. It gets translated into a protein using the cells usual, normal programming and gets degraded in a few days at much, leaving enough clues for the immune system to be activated. Before trying to explain how mRNA supposedly works it would be better if you could understand it yourself.

Straight from the lab to human trials-what could go wrong?

Read the requisites for human trials, this is completely false.

In another 3-6 months the virus causing the pandemic should be of a mutated form no longer dangerous to humans thus any need for a vaccine will no longer be relevant.

Magic crystal ball arguments are invalid. The virus has mutated endlessly since the first patient, that is what RNA viruses do, but in a whole year the immunity produced still can neutralize every strain isolated. It is not realistic to say that this process will magically change in just another few months, specially when it is based on absolutely no data.

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