WHO members' pandemic accord talks to spill into 2025

The key faultline in the negotiations lies between Western nations with major pharmaceutical industry sectors, and poorer countries who do not want to be sidelined when the next pandemic strikes.

Unsurprisingly the same antiscientific groups that routinely claim to be on the side of the people against the evil big pharma do their best to mislead anybody that listen to reject the accords, putting themselves 100% in the side of the pharmaceutical companies and against the interests of the poor.

This makes it clear that their interest is not really public health but instead to oppose any and all achievement that can be attributed to medical science, even if that means damaging the health of those that would benefit from those achievements, just so they can profit from pseudoscientific things that have been demonstrated to be ineffective or even worse than not using anything. When science can demonstrate that what you want to push is not working the most effective thing you can do is to discredit science in every opportunity you have, even if that leaves poor countries without vaccines and pharmaceutical companies CEOs with extra billions.

Whoever is paying you isn't getting their money's worth with this drivel.

So, no opinion whatsoever about the article, just making up weird accusations to taunt the mods by showing how you break the rules of the site for no reason?

The response to the Covid-19 pandemic was awful. I hope RFKjr will be able to quickly clean things up in the US (others will follow) before any major decision is taken with these accords.

While much of the draft text has been agreed, disputes remain over some key provisions, notably over sharing access to pathogens with pandemic potential -- and then equitably sharing the benefits derived from them, such as vaccines, tests and treatments.

How about agreeing to stop doing gain-of-function research on these pathogens.

The response to the Covid-19 pandemic was awful

The parts where the response was worst is precisely what the accords are meant to correct, safe and effective vaccines and treatments were taken in excess by developed countries leaving developing ones to face the pandemic without these very effective weapons resulting in much higher burden in hospitalizations and deaths that could have been prevented.

 I hope RFKjr will be able to quickly clean things up in the US

Seeing how he did a complete 180 degree turn on environmental issues and how he is completely discredited as a quack in medical issues this is beyond reasonable to expect.

How about agreeing to stop doing gain-of-function research on these pathogens.

So safe and effective interventions are not made available? making up imaginary reasons to criticize research is not an argument against them, without gain of function there is no research possible for pathogens, which of course is the whole point of antiscientific propaganda groups, this way they can push for useless alternatives.

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Unsurprisingly the same antiscientific groups that routinely claim to be on the side of the people against the evil big pharma do their best to mislead anybody that listen to reject the accords, putting themselves 100% in the side of the pharmaceutical companies and against the interests of the poor.

Is that what your experts and world-wide respected institutions are saying now? Can you name a few of those respected experts and institutions that have no links to big pharma? And in what world is granting the unelected WHO control over various countries internal policies in one important area not a political act?

Is that what your experts and world-wide respected institutions are saying now? 

It is an argument, and apparently one that you have no counter-argument against so you are forced to make irrelevant claims again.

And in what world is granting the unelected WHO control over various countries internal policies in one important area not a political act?

You would have to ask the person that made that claim because I have not done it, in fact nobody has. Which is understandable since it is false, the accords are about countries still making their own decisions, just prioritizing benefit for poor countries instead of pharmaceutical companies as is the rule right now.

Unsurprisingly the same antiscientific groups that routinely claim to be on the side of the people against the evil big pharma do their best to mislead anybody that listen to reject the accords, putting themselves 100% in the side of the pharmaceutical companies and against the interests of the poor.

In typical fashion, more nonsense demonizing anyone questioning Big Pharma's motives, sidestepping genuine concerns over transparency, accountability, and medical freedom. Covid "vaccines" were pushed with unprecedented haste, backed by government mandates and shielded from liability - yet those who dare to question are shouted down as "antiscientific."

In reality, people were rightly concerned about potential side effects and the lack of long-term safety data, especially when it comes to experimental technologies. Pharmaceutical companies made record profits during the pandemic, while WE bore the risks and consequences.

NEWS FLASH! Defending people's right to make informed medical choices without coercion isn’t "antiscientific"; it's a fundamental principle of bodily autonomy. When did asking questions and demanding accountability become more offensive than blindly trusting billion-dollar corporations?

How about agreeing to stop doing gain-of-function research on these pathogens.

So safe and effective interventions are not made available?

Ah yes, we need to do gain-of-function research on pathogens in order to make "safe and effective" interventions against the new engineered pathogens. Sure, makes sense....

making up imaginary reasons to criticize research is not an argument against them

Except for the fact that it has become abundantly clear that SARSCoV2 is the result of gain-of-function research. And the interventions produced by this research were not "safe and effective".

Ah yes, we need to do gain-of-function research on pathogens in order to make "safe and effective" interventions against the new engineered pathogens. 

I don't think that's the purpose of gain-of-function research. Is it not to make intervention possible against naturally developing pathogens? Risky perhaps, but I think many would argue it's just as risky not to do it.

Anti-vaxxers: you can't do gain of function research!!!

Also Anti-vaxxers: it's just the flu, bruh!!!

@Jay

Antivaxxers are not normal, normal people don't believe doctors are killing people with vaccines as they do.

And my previous comment is still valid, if you criticize the WHO accord for the pandemic you are on the side of the billionaires, any doctor can tell you that giving vaccines for free to poor countries will be very expensive for companies, but very good for those countries, that is why they are begging for the agreement to pass even if Big Pharma don't want to cooperate.

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Anti-vaxxers: you can't do gain of function research!!!

Also Anti-vaxxers: it's just the flu, bruh!!!

Hamfisted misrepresentation on so many levels. Ever heard of nuances, and defining terms?

Reading through the comments on this thread is utterly depressing. The excuses used to justify not taking precautions during a global pandemic make my heart ache. Millions die unnecessary deaths because stubborn souls refuse to do everything they can do to stop the spread of disease. Yes, some of these things like wearing a mask and keeping your distance from others, not gathering in crowds, etc, are not how anyone wants to live. To me, you do these things, especially wearing a mask and social distance because it helps prevent you from getting someone else sick.

There seems to be a lot of people who cannot see there are things in this world that are larger than their immediate wants and that we have obligations to each other and to our nations to do things we sometimes do not like to prevent more people from dying. It is not about you. It is about all of us and the nations we live in. Too many people lack a sense of obligation, but with rights come some obligations. Wearing a mask, social distance and yes getting vaccinated are obligations we have to each other. To do otherwise is to condemn millions of innocent people to ugly unnecessary deaths.

The excuses used to justify not taking precautions during a global pandemic make my heart ache.

Imagine how the people that fight everyday for the life of their patients must feel, people falling completely on disinformation campaigns that benefit no other than international companies, pretending vaccines are unsafe or that covid was man made when the opposite has been proved, precisely because with knowledge it comes along responsibility people find much more confortable pretending not to know things so they can act as they please.