WHO says e-cigarettes 'undoubtedly harmful'

well both are the same there's no different they both are cigarette and have nicotine but maybe e-cigarette have less smell also some flavor

"People who quit tobacco can live longer, healthier and more productive lives," the WHO said.

Until succumbing to a stress related heart attack, getting run over crossing road, or falling under a tram.

Save us all,from the nanny state mentally. If it's enjoyable, it probably harmful. I drink far to much, my doctor tell me so regularly, yet Friday and Saturday I consume Gin and Vodka Martini's without forethought.

So please enjoy your e-cigarette. I have a friend that puffs away on an e pipe, she looks fun, but a tad weird.

While I am not a fan of smoking or smokers. I still respect their freedom to lower their own stresses. But these days, e-cigarettes aside, everything seems to be bad for you and everything seems to cause cancer. Even “healthy” eating.

I think the world has a chemical problem in the air and water.

I was one of those 4%

Took me about 17 times, but have been smoke free for about 12 years or more.

Massive asthma attack took me out...and I was convinced.

I think the worst part is the people who do it think nothing of the cloud they exhale. I was walking in a group of people with one person vaping. As he blew is cloud of gas into us, I called him out and he said 'It's just water vapor' and I pointed out that it was water vapor that was just inside his mouth lungs so why doesn't he just spit in our mouths while he's at it... He walked separately from the group after that.

You want to ruin your lungs, have at it. Just keep your crap from getting in my lungs. There's probably enough stuff in there that shouldn't be that I have no control over.

I pointed out that it was water vapor that was just inside his mouth lungs

Like breathing the same air as other people in a room?

Like breathing the same air as other people in a room?

I don't know about you, but I don't spend time in rooms full of people naturally exhaling fruit flavored clouds of water and chemicals. I guess I'm strange like that.

No, just oxygen that has been in their lungs.

No, just oxygen that has been in their lungs.

Oh, I didn't realize that fruit flavored chemical clouds were just oxygen. Silly me, what on earth is the WHO worried about then? Hey WHO scientist guys, chill out, it's just oxygen!

But really, I'll pass on having to inhale the fruit flavored nicotine infused garbage that just came out of your lungs

Oh, I didn't realize that fruit flavored chemical clouds were just oxygen.

Shifting the goalposts, are we? Let's review your initial complaint:

As he blew is cloud of gas into us, I called him out and he said 'It's just water vapor' and I pointed out that it was water vapor that was just inside his mouth lungs

You clearly stated that your problem was not that it was water vapor, it was that had just been inside his 'mouth lungs'.

I pointed out how being in a room with anyone results in breathing air that has just been inside someone's 'mouth lungs'.

I still get confused about the reasons non-smokers would go out of their way to "bark" at a smoker to smoke somewhere far from them. Yet, I've seen and heard smokers who tell non-smoking complainers to stay away instead - after all, a person's personal space is just that - smoker or non-smoker.

There is a situation in Australia where illegal/party drugs can be injected in a "safe house" paid by the public purse (procuring and selling the stuff of course are illegal, and another matter the Government does not want to discuss much about). Yet, a legalized product - the tobacco, cigarettes, cigars (or the likes apart from marijuana) cannot be bought online from overseas, has a legislation banning smoking in public areas, has an annual increase in tobacco excise/tax of 12.5% up to and including 2020 -- and partially - because WHO says so - 2016 http://www.who.int/tobacco/mpower/raise_taxes/en/ - source Google Scholar. According to WHO the tax (and increasing) deters smokers from carrying on the habit. Yet, the results are just not that in Australia

https://www.tobaccoinaustralia.org.au/chapter-15-smokefree-environment/15-7-legislation

https://www.abf.gov.au/importing-exporting-and-manufacturing/prohibited-goods/categories/tobacco

The Australian Government maximizes on WHO's reports, and a local news feature reported a $12.5 billion tax revenue for the Government in 2017.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/colin-mendelsohn-writes-tobacco-tax-rise-exploits-and-punishes-addicted-smokers/news-story/85537567d4893adf18f47a666df5d33a