More women in their 40s dating younger men

This is probably true but nah - give me an older, more experienced, more interesting man any day. And not all men in their 40s suddenly morph into "ojisan". The vast majority I know are funny, interesting, attractive, experienced, kind, wise and great company.

Which is more than I can say for a young 20-something guy with no career, no real prospects and no ambition in life beyond being a kept man.

That might be why many middle-aged guys in Japan look abroad to find a younger wife...

I think Japanese women 'keep' very well too, so there are a lot of very attractive women in that age bracket who would be able to work the younger field quite comfortably.

Men marry younger women all the time, why wouldn't women marry younger men? Besides, women live longer than men and older men start compalining about aches and pains once they are over 40. Who wants to listen to that every day?

Many Japanese middle age women are tired of men in the 40's and 50's that are mostly bunch of alcoholics and smokers that talk about the same thing. These impotent middle age Japanese men are so uninteresting and self centered that they carry too much baggage. No wonder Japanese middle age Japanese women are making better choices with stamina.

Older women are less likely to play games.

The younger ones always have more than 2 boyfriends in a single period. In their free time, they are on the Internet cultivating other options.

Better to go with an older woman who has a career. When you give them the attention they need they show their appreication.

In short, older women show your manhood respect. You, as a man, provide much needed attention. The older women consider this invaluable and will treat you very kindly.

Younger Japanese girls have such big egos that they honestly believe they are doing you a favor and not the other way around. This is factually wrong as science has proved that copulation is more beneficial to the woman than the male.

Older women are more aware of how essential it is to have physical intimacy and therefore are willing to perform more. Younger women use this same intimacy as a reward for a date.

Just my two cents.

the older the berry the sweeter the juice

An older woman has become accustomed to nice things. Great clothes, good food, movies and traveling are all aspects of an older lifestyle. A man does not need to be wealthy to achieve a date. First impressions are important as well as the first date. An individual needs to be aware that older women are more inclined to want an exclusive relationship. They are ready to settle down and have children before their clock expires. Not all older women want this, however the majority does. If the younger man is not interested in this at this stage of their life, they need to come clean up front. They may have much more emotional baggage than younger women.

Japanese women are at their best around 40, gotta be the best in the world, still have great figures nice faces and great skin and so sexy with it, they also know what they want and often arn't going to pressure you for a baby, a car or a house as usually they already have all those things anyway.

Dont have to be a young guy either to get them, not all older guys are oyaji impotent stinky boring dorks.

They will be much better off with a real gentleman with worldly experience, style and money than a 20 year old fem j-boy who is more girly than the girls.

God I love japan and its women.

Older women have $$$$, younger men don't need Viagra, yes, a match made in heaven!

Which is more than I can say for a young 20-something guy with no career, no real prospects and no ambition in life beyond being a kept man.

Maybe the women just want the younger men for sex. Nothing wrong with that - older men have been doing that with young brides for years. I see nothing exciting about an ojisan.

Older women and younger men are often just a fling - they soon tire of each other. Keyword = often, it's not written in stone.

Older men and younger women usually work out better, but's that my experience. Not written in stone either. But the younger woman will look nice for a longer time, and she get's maturity and security.

As for me, I like different age groups but 40ish is best. Knows how to look her best, usually settled down and good for conversation. And they're smoking hot.

I haven't seen any J women in their 40s with nice skin, but fashionable clothings and branded items, yes. Also J women in 40s date younger men despite being already married to some rich men.

So I doubt many J women want to marry the less money young men. Probably it's just for now, to pass the time, until the rich and suitable ones come along. Remember, J women are so practical!

Gotta agree, Japanese women in their 40's still look magnificent. My wife is in her very early 40's and still sometimes gets asked for ID when buying alcohol (liquor store policy is to ask for ID if you look under 25). More often than not she is older then the person asking. Makes her day I can tell you.

Reversal of Gender roles I should say...faminization of males and masculinazation of women.

One of the more attractive points about being with an older woman is that, and especially in their 40s, they usually know by then what they want, and don't play around. I don't buy into the whole "older-sister wife with herbivore husband" crap, because if that's the nature of the relationship it is simply control, and that won't last very long. And no, not all men are 'ojisan' in their 40s; only those that let themselves be.

If I was an older hot Japanese 40 something cougar, would I want some old fart with $$$ or would I want a younger man who would do me right and make my pretty little head spin in circles and make me see stars after hours and hours of passionate, hot, lusty SEX, my guess WOULD WANT BOTH, have the old fart with $$$ as a husband and then have 20 young guys taking turns to makes this cougar purr??

Haha Elbuda you always has such a way with words .

Oh Elbuda, why can't all women be like you! lol!

WeaselJUN. 26, 2012 - 11:10AM JST

Call it what it is, cougar patrolling. 'Nuff said.

and what would you call the opposite when older men go after young girls? Pedos? Pervs?

Get real, when it comes to love and relationships..who cares about age? As long as you are not trying to pick up a minor, you'll be fine. Older men with younger women and Older women with younger men. Good for them! Live and let live.

reason why older women go for younger men?

b/c japanese ojisan and ossan = kareishuu + dome dome

Maybe the women just want the younger men for sex.

Yes, quite possibly, but to be honest, those younger men dont have a clue what they are doing and I cant be bothered witb teaching them. Been there done that. Give me someone who knows what he is doing.

They are cute to look at yes, maybe even fun to hang out with for an evening for a bit of an ego boost, but when it comes to an actual relationship, I dont want to be trailing a man cub around on a leash. Give me a partner - an equal. And maybe as some have pointed out there is the problem here - many J men in the 40s and 50s are smoking drinking selfish, bitter smelly losers. (ouch! I generalise!)

Which is where you gaijin guys step in! On your marks, gentlemen!

Now I think about it, all the male friends in their 40s I was talking about above ARE gaijin! (except one who is just a total hottie, a rare diamond in the rough!)

@seesaw1

I haven't seen any J women in their 40s with nice skin

Um, Suzuki Kyoka? Pretty when she was younger, stunning in her 40s.

@Franchesca

and what would you call the opposite when older men go after young girls? Pedos? Pervs?

Probably. Hardly fair is it?

when it comes to love and relationships..who cares about age?

Couple around the corner, about 20 years difference, great couple. My best friend recently married in his late 30s, she's in her mid-20s, great couple also. My woman is 44, am I a dirty old man because I'm 48?

More women in their 40s dating younger men

Now i understand why Japan's population is shrinking.

@ReformedBasher

Couple around the corner, about 20 years difference, great couple. My best friend recently married in his late 30s, she's in her mid-20s, great couple also. My woman is 44, am I a dirty old man because I'm 48?

Good for you, buddy... I'm sure she is a sweetheart, we are 9 years of difference as well. Peaches and Cream. My point is if a man can find a young woman and be happy, why can't an old woman find a young man?

It is DESPICABLE to read comments here condemning such women as "cougars" etc. LOL!!! I guess those "men" are downright jealous of a woman in her 40's or 50's can find such a young fox and not someone like them. Who cares about age, no one will dictate people who they are allowed to date or marry. It will never happen.

@ReformedBasher

My woman is 44, am I a dirty old man because I'm 48?

Forgot to tell you... I like 'em old...very very old. My spouse' biggest fear is that I might fall for someone older, but nah, ain't never gonna happen. I treasure our family like a diamond. Cherish yours as well. Real love do last forever. ;-)

plenty of mamas sons out there who need older women as a mother replacement.

i wonder what the men do when women goes into menopause mid 40s..... only inmature guys with no selfconfidence would take a much older women. period.

iam 44 and my japanese girl is 24. just perfect .

thkannerJUN. 26, 2012 - 01:17PM JST

i wonder what the men do when women goes into menopause mid 40s..... only inmature guys with no selfconfidence would take a much older women. period.

Don't hate the player, hate the game! ROFL

LOL Marcelito

I was wondering what he's gonna do once his 24 year old "japanese girl" hits menopause? Dump her and find another young one? Imagine what his mother would say? Looking down on women because of something as natural and insignificant as menopause and age? Most women don't even go into menopause in their 40's. Where did this guy go to school? I thought you judge people based on character and personality, way of thinking, family values, etc. So by his own definition, women should pick men based on their virility, zero erectileimpotence problems, zero prostate problems, etc. LOL I thought I have read and seen it all. God almighty!

Yeah.... in about 15 years those young men will be looking for young women.... and the funny thing is... compared to their spouse, a woman their own age will be young.

Net Ninja usually i disagree with wot u write but that was bang on!! exact same experience

NetNinjaJUN. 26, 2012 - 09:09AM JST

Older women are less likely to play games.

The younger ones always have more than 2 boyfriends in a single period. In their free time, they are on the Internet cultivating other options.

Better to go with an older woman who has a career. When you give them the attention they need they show their appreication.

In short, older women show your manhood respect. You, as a man, provide much needed attention. The older women consider this invaluable and will treat you very kindly.

Younger Japanese girls have such big egos that they honestly believe they are doing you a favor and not the other way around. This is factually wrong as science has proved that copulation is more beneficial to the woman than the male.

Older women are more aware of how essential it is to have physical intimacy and therefore are willing to perform more. Younger women use this same intimacy as a reward for a date.

Just my two cents.

I see NetNinja owned this thread. Kudos!

Older women cashing in on the "mother-con" phenomenon... Good on them!

some of the comments on here are a bit weird.

The younger ones always have more than 2 boyfriends in a single period. In their free time, they are on the Internet cultivating other options. sounds like you are a bit insecure, young man,

Younger Japanese girls have such big egos that they honestly believe they are doing you a favor and not the other way around. This is factually wrong as science has proved that copulation is more beneficial to the woman than the male. WTF? Do you really think like this?

Older women are more aware of how essential it is to have physical intimacy and therefore are willing to perform more. Younger women use this same intimacy as a reward for a date. As above, you must be joking.

An older woman has become accustomed to nice things. Great clothes, good food, movies and traveling are all aspects of an older lifestyle. A man does not need to be wealthy to achieve a date. Really? even older women who are not so well off travel and eat out and so on?

‘As long as she’s good-looking, it doesn’t matter how old she is.’”

Yeah more like as long as she is giving up strings free sex AND "acceptable" looking.....it doesnt matter how old she is. Whats going on with this idea of women that in her 40s she is still "young" but same age 40 year old guys are ojisans? I think not! Women need to be brought back to reality. If you are in your 40s and your bf is in his 20s, that is ok but dont get the wrong idea about what is reallllly going on in his head. You "ARE" old compared to him and that guy is just doing you a favor cause you got something he wants to get in addition to what he already has.

Astonishing! It is simply exploitation of male biology at early age. At this age male may be physically matured but mentally immature. The hormone level is at peak at around 20 years of age. This may be imbalance marriage life. Marriage life can be more successful if both wheels of life have equal sharing. I understand why suicide rates are increasing in Japan.

Of course, because the ideal match is an old dry man in his 90's with a 18 or 19 year old fresh young girl. Match made in heaven alright. Let's make this state law for the benefit of the JT gaijin hordes. ;-)

@Franchesca Miyara YangJun.

Forgot to tell you... I like 'em old...very very old. My spouse' biggest fear is that I might fall for someone older, but nah, ain't never gonna happen.

Better be sure of that....many of those old, old guys are looking for someone to help change their senior diapers.

@akkk1

Better be sure of that....many of those old, old guys are looking for someone to help change their senior diapers.

Sorry bud, I'm not American, I wasn't raised by the media. I don't pick people based on physical attributes. Character, personality, moral and family values are way more important for me. If I pick a partner based on what the JT armchair experts have laid off in this thread, I'd end up alone for the rest of life. So thanks but No.

By the way, what makes you think I was talking about "males"? ;-)

The herbivores are just soft and are easily bullied by those older women into doing whatever. Look at it this way: they probably have no chance at the hot young things out there so, why not?

@marcelito

Common guys, take it easy...I think in most of these relationships both the J-ladies and the younger guys know what the game really is about...let them enjoy it if they want .

There is no doubt some of these relationships are based on certain "interests"of course ;-). Yet I have known a few couples where the husband was a few years younger than the wife and they have been married for like 40+ years? bunch of kids and all that. Same with the opposite, My neighbors for example. The husband is about 17 years older than his wife. Great marriage with 3 kids. There's the good and the bad, the sweet and the sour. Both ways have my support. Just be sure that is what you really want. I wouldn't mind seeing myself with someone much older, as long as I'm happy. The sea is full of fish, buddy.

Whoa, whoa, whoa! Most people are supporting this? Did I miss the boat or something?

I've dated a woman much older than me and she wanted to get married really, really fast. She also was expecting children immediately after. Never again! An older woman's biological clock will be ticking super loudly in her late thirties, and menopause is waiting just around the corner. Not to mention that the risks with having a child after 35 increase dramatically.

Unfortunately, there is a lot more than just love that plays into this...

Cougars rock.....

No strings, little if no inhibitions...

A win-win for any young man :D

@Kakarot9

Point taken. Imagine the expectations of a young ripe 20 year old girl dating a guy in his 40's, 50's or even 60's.. The horror of erectile dysfunctions, poor unproductive sperm, higher risk of prostate cancer, imminent impotence at some point and the ultimate embarrassment of having to go to the drug store to get either adult diapers or viagra! The harsh reality goes both ways as ugly as it may be sometimes....

OMGhontoni:

The vast majority I know are funny, interesting, attractive, experienced, kind, wise and great company.

You forgot 'good in bed'.

@Franchesca

I didn't at all imply that a significantly older man dating a younger woman was any better. I just said that an older woman dating a younger man is not a good idea. Point missed, I think.

The two Japanese women I have had relationships with were both in their 40s (as am I) and the only problems I encountered were that they never had the time to make it work... one because her job was more important than us, and the other because her teenage son took up all of her time. I was pushed aside like an old pair of slippers. Luckily I'm still friends with the latter.

I also agree with the guys who say Japanese women in their 40s are passionate and experienced... I can vouch for that!

The vast majority I know are funny, interesting, attractive, experienced, kind, wise and great company.

You forgot 'good in bed'

Sorry! Cant vouch for that! But if you say so! ;)

An older woman's biological clock will be ticking super loudly in her late thirties, and menopause is waiting just around the corner

Huh? Really? My Mom menopaused at 58 - twenty years around your corner.

You forgot 'good in bed'

Sorry! Cant vouch for that! But if you say so! ;)

Actually, yes I can! My husband turned 40 a couple of months ago! So far so goooooooood.....!

the older the berry the sweeter the juice

Man, it's the blacker the berry, the sweeter the juice.

Good Friday ref BTW. ;-)

My wife is much younger than I am so I can totally identify with these women in their 40s. To be honest, there're the occasional "WTF?! moments" when we talk about movies or music, but since we'd rather live in the present and look forward to our future together, that really isn't any problem. I'm in my mid-forties but certainly not an "ojisan" LOL My wife wouldn't let me (become one)! I guess it's the same for couples where the women is (much) older. True, they were born earlier than their partner/spouse, but that's all in the past... What's important between couples is how they are together now and from now.

@Kakarot9

No I know what you meant, don't worry about that.. Let's say that in a "perfect world", everyone would date someone their own age. I just don't see that happening any time soon. I'll keep my older gal though. ;-)

When I grow up, I wanna be a cougar.

Honestly speaking... WHO has the right to tell someone whom are they allowed to date or marry? Nobody. Regardless of what kind of relationship you are looking for, only you can make the decision. I have met countless couples of all age brackets and their happiness is what really counts. Love has no age..or sex for that matter! ;-)

**Yes, quite possibly, but to be honest, those younger men dont have a clue what they are doing and I cant be bothered witb teaching them. Been there done that. Give me someone who knows what he is doing.

They are cute to look at yes, maybe even fun to hang out with for an evening for a bit of an ego boost, but when it comes to an actual relationship, I dont want to be trailing a man cub around on a leash. Give me a partner - an equal. And maybe as some have pointed out there is the problem here - many J men in the 40s and 50s are smoking drinking selfish, bitter smelly losers. (ouch! I generalise!)

Which is where you gaijin guys step in! On your marks, gentlemen!

Now I think about it, all the male friends in their 40s I was talking about above ARE gaijin! (except one who is just a total hottie, a rare diamond in the rough!)**

Why are you so negative about this? You're making some pretty nasty and baseless comments. Not all men don't have a clue and plenty older guys have none. perhaps you see it as an ego boost but perhaps other women are already confident and don't need that boost? Man cub? Yikes.

Who cares who dates whom and what age they are? If people are happy, everything is legal, let them enjoy it.

" That might be why many middle-aged guys in Japan look abroad to find a younger wife... "........................................................

no, that's why they become fan of AKB48

SimondB- if you are referring to me I am female, but I am also not really seeing why my statements are "unusual" for a woman?

Why are you so negative about this? You're making some pretty nasty and baseless comments. Not all men don't have a clue and plenty older guys have none. perhaps you see it as an ego boost but perhaps other women are already confident and don't need that boost? Man cub? Yikes.

Jeez tmarie, lighten up! Nasty and baseless??! For Gods sake, did you not see the bit where I wrote "Ouch! I generalise!" Save your venom for the nasty comments made by men writing off any woman over 35.

@OMGhontoni

Guess they are expecting you to use flowers and hearts emoticons and type words like "sweetie, honey" LOL!!

Oh, my mistake! Thanks for the tip Francesca!

@OMGhontoni

Oh, my mistake! Thanks for the tip Francesca!

You're most welcome hun :-)

OMG, perhaps you could lighten up? Look at your comments about the topic.

"more experienced, more interesting man" with regards to those being older.

"Which is more than I can say for a young 20-something guy with no career, no real prospects and no ambition in life beyond being a kept man."

Ouch. Yep. Plenty of generalizations there. Rather unfair ones too. I call the guys on their BS. Just because I'm female doesn't mean I shouldn't call you on yours.

Who cares what age people are as long as they're happy - and legal?

I dont care what anyone else does as long as they are happy and legal. I just said not for me, I prefer older men for a relationship. Thats all. So go ahead and call out someone else and stop wasting your time with me.

For what its worth, I think women are gorgeous, wonderful creatures, they all have their own unique ways, qualities and virtues. They have my profound love, respect and admiration. :-)

They show data for one year, and declare a trend? And most everyone replies with extreme generalizations as if they bought this tripe? Well that is the worst of it, but there is still more.

So 23.6 percent of the time the wife was older? Like, uh, okay. How much older? If one year older or less, what's the difference? I have no doubt that accounts for something like 50 percent of the number right there.

One has to wonder if this whole article is not cooked up to try end age discrimination against women in relationships, or at least served to us in that hope. It might work on some, for a time.

But let us remember there is just as much age discrimination against men in relationships. Young men have a hell of a time getting any attention as the older guys have snapped up all the young women worth dating. We have it real bad when young. Women have it easy, well at least from the point the law gets out of their way and they can date freely. So I don't have an ounce of sympathy. We suffered, and now women, its your turn.

Pretty much when an significantly older woman and younger man get together, its mutual desperation. It isn't all Ralph Fiennes dating the still lovely but much older Francesca Annis. Still, two desperate people helping each other is still a beautiful thing. I got nothing against it.

I dated some older women myself, but even when they still look hot, there is just no physical comparison to younger women. Its just the way it is. And for all the mental pluses, there is one giant elephant of minus, and that is the fact that being older, they cannot adjust to a new man's needs very well. They are great if they match already, but if you expect new tricks, pretty much you can forget it. Of course nothing is written in stone. In other words, my generalizations are admittedly generalizations. But they come from lots of experience and not guesswork or dreams.

Love has no age..or sex for that matter! ;-)

Cheers Franchesca! Some lame people harp on this stuff just to try and give their lame selves a sense of superiority. The instant everyone cops on and stops pandering to them, they will lamely grope for something else to point fingers over, and we will have a new class of citizen who was fine yesterday, but an underclass today. Look how they tore into Doug Hutchison and his wife Courtney, as if their situation has some grand effect on the world!

In america we call them cougars!

In america we call them cougars!

In circles with class, we call that a degrading label, not worthy of civilized discourse and not fair to anybody. Is there any sort of relationship/ sexual preference without some sort of insulting label? Can't we all just get along and play nice?

@Opinionhated

In america we call them cougars!

In circles with class, we call that a degrading label, not worthy of civilized discourse and not fair to anybody. Is there any sort of relationship/ sexual preference without some sort of insulting label? Can't we all just get along and play nice?

Now we're talking about. Outstanding post. Hats off to you, Sir.

@Opinionhated

I started posting on this thread with nothing but pure neutrality with my statement that if a older man can be happy with a young woman, why can't a older woman be happy with a younger man? It's common sense and logical. Now, I can't really say I'm an expert in Male-Female relationships. Hope you get the hint..(wink wink) ;-)

Opps, My bad for the typo, I meant: an older man, an older woman

In circles with class, we call that a degrading label, not worthy of civilized discourse and not fair to anybody. Is there any sort of relationship/ sexual preference without some sort of insulting label? Can't we all just get along and play nice?>

lol i never said it was something degrading imho cougars are awesome! They know what they want and how to get it, but i wouldnt want to stay with one forever its more of a fad kind of thing

I was once married to a woman 3 yrs older, and the sex was abysmal.

Around 40ish, some women may be intent on making the best of their disappearing youth, and may make great bed-mates for a while. For anybody tempted (or persuaded) to take things further, just remember child-bearing can be a big problem, and that menopause is just around the corner. "Cougar" or not, the menopause years will be very, very different.

No surprise here. Women in their 40's are still on the make for trouser snake, but guys their age are having trouble getting the snake to appear. So the cougars are stalking the younger generation when they go on a snake hunt. Nothing wrong with it, but if they try and make it a permanent situation (via marriage) they'll find the differences in age will matter once the cougar's hunting days are over.

Women, snakes and cougars - oh my!

@Guza!

lol i never said it was something degrading imho cougars are awesome! They know what they want and how to get it, but i wouldnt want to stay with one forever its more of a fad kind of thing

I think I read somewhere about the similar thinking of certain young women marrying wealthy old men. They stick around waiting for the right time to inherit everything. Then, once they have all your money, they will marry a guy their own age. The old, now poor man is left alone with nothing. Both young beautiful woman and all the money gone like the wind. This scenario is far from fantasy, it has happened a lot.

My point is that not every young woman would be interested in a man that's too old for her. Every single woman is different. Same with the men, I think. Someone will be interested, but another will not. Don't generalize. I don't discriminate based on age, color, race, creed, etc. I'm more into "real" values, character, personality.. not breast size, bum, etc. Physical attributes will fade with age. Love, respect and morals will not, hopefully.

@Bazza

I was once married to a woman 3 yrs older, and the sex was abysmal.

Around 40ish, some women may be intent on making the best of their disappearing youth, and may make great bed-mates for a while. For anybody tempted (or persuaded) to take things further, just remember child-bearing can be a big problem, and that menopause is just around the corner. "Cougar" or not, the menopause years will be very, very different.

Sorry, but what would you say to a woman married to you once you hit that dreaded point (somewhere between late 40's and early 60's) when you can't get an erection anymore? What about the so called male-menopause when sperm is no longer healthy and lacks motility? And your prostate? Those awful and painful infections that won't let you leave the restroom all night. Child-bearing is not an issue when you are decided to not have kids, a mature person will respect that decision. No one can force anyone to have children. Now if you thought that only women become useless and worth discarding because "menopause is around the corner" excuse me but I think such statement is not only disrespectful but extremely inhumane towards the ladies in this forum and everywhere. If you don't want a woman because of the fear of menopause, perhaps you can find more compatibility with the same gender? I sure did. ;-) The truth of the matter is that both men and women will age no matter what they do. It's inevitable. It's what life is all about. Let's not get carried away looking down on a certain gender, please. Cheers~

Desesperate Housewives.. Japan Edition.. for the other side here in Mexico we have a phrase "The older the hen, the better the broth"... some young men could be allowing himselves to take a relationship like this before knowing someone from his age or younger.. some experience, less pregnancy risk and sometimes the economical fact... anyway is weeeeird...

I'm 40. My Japanese girlfriend is 20. She's smarter and more mature than all the women that I've dated older than her... and she can kick my ass (2 blackbelts in 2 different forms of karate).

Women my age have WAY too many issues. I've dated women in Japan aged 16 to early 40's. (Yes, it's legal to DATE 16-year-olds) High school / university girls are more mature than women closing in on 30. Japanese women may not lose a lot in looks when the get older, but they lose a lot in spirit, general joy in life and tend to revert back to bratty, selfish 6-year-olds, if they're cute, or just mother figures for guys that need a tit to suck on, which brings me to my next point....

Young guys just want older women because they want an OL to pay their bills while their boinking someone their own age.

So they can feel young under the wrinkles, makeup and to hide their age to pretend to act young.. living in denial with a tom boy lol

living in denial with a tom boy lol

Well, a "tom boy" is a girl who prefers doing things normally associated with boys, so I'm not sure how that would apply here.

High school / university girls are more mature than women closing in on 30.

This was great for a laugh. Thanks.

This was great for a laugh. Thanks.

I depends on what is meant by maturity. Its not like it has a clear definition. And yes, maturity can be lost. But we probably also have confirmation bias coming into play. The high school/ university women in his circles may be more mature than the 30ish women in his circles, which still means the statement is true, at least for him.

Also, a high school/university woman may at least appear more mature for not doing anything and not having certain and high expectations. But a 30ish or older woman may appear very immature for doing things foolishly, like trying to trick a man into marriage, and also having much too high of expectations and demands, even as the dating has just begun, such as expecting marriage potential upfront, a certain level income, etc.

I believe my own maturity level dropped in my 20s. But it had to for my own sanity.

lol i never said it was something degrading imho cougars are awesome!

Find me an older woman happy to be called cougar to her face in mixed company.

@Opinionhated

Good Points. Generally speaking, some young women/men might be mature for their age while others might be a nightmare to be around with. Same with older women/men. Some are way mature and stable, while others act as if they where teenagers looking for a thrill. It's very diverse. Every single person is unique. I've been with women my age and 2 or 3 years younger and there were some noticeable and somewhat conflicting differences. Can't say they were bad. We just didn't grew fond of each other. Perhaps in another situation, we would have. Depending on the person. Again, every person is different. Perhaps my choices at the time, were not the best. Now my spouse is almost 9 years older than I am but from the first moment we met, I knew she was the one. We're happy and stable. Age doesn't play an important part, but her way of thinking, morals and values does. I'd still be with her if she was 20 or 60. I can't judge someone based solely on their age. It's a two way street. You will never know until you try. All I can say, for some reason, I'm thankful I'm with my own kind. I don't need to put up with either ugly and despicable extremist feminism or chauvinism for that matter. I don't need to conform to others or do what society expects from my gender. I will do and act as I see fit without fear of repercussions or retaliation. As long as it is legal under law and moral in your heart, I see nothing wrong with being with someone regardless of their age, young or old.

@INFOWARSJAPAN

I'm 40. My Japanese girlfriend is 20. She's smarter and more mature than all the women that I've dated older than her... and she can kick my ass (2 blackbelts in 2 different forms of karate). Have you ever asked yourself what a young ripe 20 year old want with an old 40 year old man? True Love you think?

Women my age have WAY too many issues. I've dated women in Japan aged 16 to early 40's. (Yes, it's legal to DATE 16-year-olds)

Legal for you, completely immoral and tasteless for the average person. We are NOT talking about someone 18 or 19 years old but 16. A teenager. What are you doing hanging around with a teenager? (they are still developing physically and sometimes mentally!) Ugh Would you like a man on his 40's or 50's preying on your daughters? Preying on a 16 or 17 year old is a whole different game that shouldn't even be considered in this day and age. Legally they are still minors. Morally, normal healthy men or women don't go after teens. The ones that do usually end up arrested and labeled as Pedophiles for the rest of their lives. I'd stay away from them if I was you. By dating you may not be having sex with her, but seeing her as such is ugly trouble enough IMHO. Recipe for disaster.

High school / university girls are more mature than women closing in on 30. Japanese women may not lose a lot in looks when the get older, but they lose a lot in spirit, general joy in life and tend to revert back to bratty, selfish 6-year-olds, if they're cute, or just mother figures for guys that need a tit to suck on, which brings me to my next point....

And what makes you think you have the authority to tell those young men who they can date or not? If they want to date old women, let them. It is not up to you, isn't it? Your gross generalizations are outstanding. Have you date the whole 30's~40's Japanese women in the whole world to know this for a fact? Feel free to tell us if you have, please. :-)

Young guys just want older women because they want an OL to pay their bills while their boinking someone their own age.

Again, who are you to tell them all this? Is it because you fear your 20 year old girlfriend may be using you the same way? Letting you pay all her expenses now while secretly dating some fresh young fox on the side? I mean seriously, you are NO match for someone her young age if she so decides to leave you for a better looking younger man. Let's face it. The ugly truth goes both ways. There are NO guarantees that she won't leave you for someone younger, much younger and fresher than you are. So please, do not tell others what they need to expect from such relationships. I think you are in the exact same place as they are. Like working your butt off to keep her with you perhaps? ;-) Let's be fair and considerate and stop the generalizations and stereotypes as they are despicable and completely UNFAIR to those involved.

Like Japanese women around 40 are actually interested in sex. Right! If they are still unmarried by that point, they are looking to get married quick, and I mean quick (or never at all). I am sure there are some J women around that age that are still interested but as a general trend, no way. They are taking trips to temples, onsens and abroad with their friends.

Men marry younger women all the time, why wouldn't women marry younger men? Besides, women live longer than men and older men start compalining about aches and pains once they are over 40. Who wants to listen to that every day?

Thats a terribly dogmatic statement to make Foxie. Im well into my 40s, reasonably fit and no one hears me complaining about aches and pains, and I`m reasonably confident in thinking most men are the same.

Anyway, good luck to these people, I wish them the best. But I think that once these women hit their 50s and are looking at 60, theyll be wondering about their husbands fidelity. I think once these guys grow up and get a bit more of real-life experience they`ll be after something a bit younger.

No no no . Japanese young men does not go with Older woman in 40s,( Basan asobi ) its like with there Mamas , I agree , except some few sick manias do.. These Isolated older woman sect , easily finds foreign guys. who are even very New to Japan . especially...from Korean males, I see this trend always.

I know woman in their 40 's thumb go down, Sorry for this truth.

@Franchesca

Don't know who is giving you thumbs down on your posts but it is not me. You are wrting some good stuff, as are some of the other ladies here. Good on you. Everyone's different but they all have the same right to "have a good time".

@Onniyama

Like Japanese women around 40 are actually interested in sex. Right! Are you for real? Either you are a troll or completely clueless. Or were you turned down perhaps? Don't worry, you'll get lucky if you keep trying. (no offense ladies, I write this with complete respect for the female gender)

@ReformedBasher

No worries there, my friend. People thumbing down are just afraid to debate me in a civil way. Besides, the gross and unfounded generalizations are going through the roof already. What's wrong with some people in this thread that feel so intimidated and perhaps ego-hurt for them to look down on young men dating older women. They are NOT insulting older women, they are insulting the young men that date them. Nothing like being bruised and scorned to spew some generalizations and garbage in a thread. Live and let live.

By the way, it's good seeing you here RB..hopefully I'll see you around the FORUM sometime soon. Cheers~

I don't blame third of Japanese men for not being interested in sex. Japanese women are so obnoxious and want everything to be done for them. This brings to mind -- what kind of man will these youngsters grow up to be? Already, with no interest in sex, they exhibit a psychotic break. Add to that what seems to be a lack of desire for human companionship... To me, future Japan is really scary.

woman in their 40 become more sexual than in their 20s..? Huh... who claims this.

the woman who are Not successive in their young age.. due to work..money .. stress..beauty....or some sick behavior... Could not find and marry in right age . or late their marriage... finally becomes victims of self Isolated ... rejected.. metal sexual sickness,

this is something recently become natural , widely accepted in society. but they never used the word sick. but it is .

Both young men and woman should be responsible for their unnatural gap related relations. due to various mental sickness which are not publicly spoken.

guess i missed the boat :/

Japanese women are so obnoxious and want everything to be done for them.

Not true... I've known plenty of Japanese women of all ages and they are perfectly kind and decent. Like women everywhere they know their own minds and are individuals... Of course like everywhere else you get bad apples, but you can't chuck a slur like that around with gay abandon.

@Fadamor Opps typo * Toy Boy not tom boy..

woman in their 40 become more sexual than in their 20s..? Huh... who claims this.

Science for one....

This is a nice survey, but it says little aside form the fact that if single 40 year-old woman hasn't dated a man younger than her, she's abnormal.

Duh, she's still single at 40. This is like announcing most vegans have tried tofu hot dogs. It means very little.

Science for one....

Show us the link to this "science". I suspect its going to be about as scientific as this article!

In fact, its a myth, perpetuated for several reasons. Its often called the "sexual peak". Well its complete bull. Older women do start to lose their inhibitions, some because they are sick of being pent up, others because they can hear their biological clock ticking like a time bomb. Well, if being willing to do it more easily is the definition of sexual peak, that might be true.

But as for genuine horniness, I bet that is at its peak much younger. Being pumped full of inhibition and fear may keep them having sex less, but its not for not wanting it.

But thinking women peak in their 40s just makes absolutely no biological sense. Society and its bullcrap might make trends, but it varies with the society. Its not a natural thing.

Japanese women are so obnoxious and want everything to be done for them.

Am I reading this right? That might describe many women from my fair old homeland, but I certainly don't think it is a fair and reasonable assessment of a Japanese woman at all. The one I'm married to is absolutely sensational, and I doubt it's a chance occurrance.

Personally, I was never attracted to an older woman except when I was 15 year old who got his cherry broke by a 17 year old in High school. What about pro-creation? An older man and younger girl couple has a much better chance of conceiving a healthy baby than the other way around (in most cases).

http://www.womanknows.com/relationships/news/330/

http://www.drozfans.com/ask-dr-oz/dr-oz-mens-sexual-peak-is-18-womens-40/

In fact, its a myth, perpetuated for several reasons. Its often called the "sexual peak". Well its complete bull. Older women do start to lose their inhibitions, some because they are sick of being pent up, others because they can hear their biological clock ticking like a time bomb. Well, if being willing to do it more easily is the definition of sexual peak, that might be true.

So you argue with me, ask for links and then in the end, agree with me...

An older man and younger girl couple has a much better chance of conceiving a healthy baby than the other way around (in most cases).

So sex is all about procreation? Guess you must be catholic.

So you argue with me, ask for links and then in the end, agree with me...

The contention was that women become more sexual. The links you gave me stated that women orgasm more. Its...not...the...same. Reasons stated for orgasming more? Being in a marriage and being more comfortable with their bodies. The first is certainly social and I contend the second one is also the result of society, and I pretty much already stated those.

I brought up the point of sexual peak because it was slightly more objective. But more orgasms indicates sexual peak/ desire about as well as more burps indicates peak digestion.

I think its also worth mentioning that women who never orgasmed won't suddenly start in the their 30s and 40s. Its only women who are already having orgasms who will or can start having more. And that blows the whole contention up 8 ways from Sunday. If there was some natural component, women who never orgasmed would suddenly start. But they don't. But hey, basing all this on orgasms was childish logic anyway, and that is what you are referring to as science?

A large part of the misuse of that research is to try and convince women they should wait for sex, and to convince men to go for older women. Its a big mind screw. The most dastardly and unforgiveable point to the whole thing is is though, that as a result so many women have not orgasmed, and now never will because they waited too long. Its a crime against women IMHO. If a woman is going to orgasm, she must start young, and 25 is getting old, biologically speaking.

So sex is all about procreation? Guess you must be catholic.

The statement was based on evolutionary thought. And I would say that despite so much of it being grossly oversimplified, what maitai62 said is firm reasoning. Those men naturally attracted to younger women carried on their genes much better than those attracted to older. And so now there are naturally more men attracted to younger women, because those genes pushing us to that tendency were handed down.

And some people don't like the fact, and that is part of the reason we get whalloped with mind screws like this article, as forced attempt to alter the status quo.

So what is exactly your definition of "sexual peak" if you don't think it means women are more open to sex, have more confidence to ask for what they want, have more orgasms...

Perhaps if guys didn't label women sluts, whores... when they were in their 20s for wanting sex and having it "like guys" women in their 20s would be more open with it all??

And no, I didn't simply anything. The poster was talking about having sex for the purpose of women getting pregnant. THEY brought up pro-creation. I don't know anyone personally who only has sex for that purpose. I also don't know any people, male or female, that rule dating someone out because of their age and ability to make a baby. But that's just me. Perhaps those people exist but I'd rather not hang out with them.

Perhaps if guys didn't label women sluts, whores... when they were in their 20s for wanting sex and having it "like guys" women in their 20s would be more open with it all??

Maybe if those younger women didn't waste their time on men and boys their age?

I say this because a guy in his 20s generally doesn't know what he's doing, nor the confidence, nor has the breadth of experience required to have a normal, sexual, functioning, adult relationship, without the drama. In addition they're not really in financial in control of their lives.... AND they're unwilling to settle down at that age.

If women in their 20s aimed at a man in his 30s and 40s, she'd have a better shot at getting that serious relationship happening, rather than waste her time in her 20s with men her age, and get absolutely nowhere until her 30s. At that point, men her age are aiming at her juniors.

Having orgasms and being plain horny are two different things. I`ve had more than my fair share of both but I would love for 'science' to be right about my impending peak! Though I'd much rather be popping a more mature vintage than something freshly bottled. Half a mans age plus ten is my equation of choice.

Perhaps if guys didn't label women sluts, whores... when they were in their 20s for wanting sex and having it "like guys" women in their 20s would be more open with it all??

Guys labeling women sluts, and whores? Heh, that's funny.

The only thing worse than Guys labeling women sluts and whores are Women labeling women sluts and whores.

If women in their 20s aimed at a man in his 30s and 40s, she'd have a better shot at getting that serious relationship happening, rather than waste her time in her 20s with men her age, and get absolutely nowhere until her 30s. At that point, men her age are aiming at her juniors.

Isn't it funny how men seem to assume that all women want relationships, babies, to settle down, have someone make more money than they do and look after them...

Have any of you ever thought that perhaps those 40 year old women who are getting off with 20 something guys aren't interested in all of this? Most probably have their own careers, their own money and don't "need" an older guy to "look after" them? Why the assumptions that these women are wanting marriage, kids...?

Little miss, glad you found it "funny". Have been out with a bunch of guys when they start talking about certain females? Indeed, women can be very, very nasty but when it comes to be IN bed, many women don't ask for what they like because they don't want the guys to wonder about their experience, let alone chat to the guys about it all. And yep, girls DO talk as well but trying to suggest that guys don't, don't label women... would be wrong.

Also not sure whats up with what your equation means. Take a guy who is 50, half it to 25 plus 10 means you wish that guy was 35?

The only thing worse than Guys labeling women sluts and whores are Women labeling women sluts and whores.

You forgot the male sluts and whores. Seriously... the worst!

Isn't it funny how men seem to assume that all women want relationships, babies, to settle down, have someone make more money than they do and look after them...

Most do. But its a fair point that they are not all like that. Maybe 70/30 to 80/20? Most women I know want a relationship at any age rather than a one night stand. Pretty much the further up you move from one night stand, the more women are interested.

My girlfriend is middle aged the same as me, but has no interest in settling down, so yeah, I am familiar with the type.

So what is exactly your definition of "sexual peak"

To me the meaning is when someone is physiologically the most desirous and responsive to sex, not just when they are doing it more or even when they "decide" to do it more for reasons not directly tied to the desire. In other words, doing it to land a man does not count. More orgasms is an indicator at best, but not proof. The trouble with my definition is that it would need to be tested in a lab, and that's not possible. And that is why sexologists are constantly fooling with questionnaires, surveys and other stuff and constantly getting things wrong.

The poster was talking about having sex for the purpose of women getting pregnant.

My bad. You might be right about that. Its hard to tell why they used the word pro-creation, but probably, you got it right.

don't know any people, male or female, that rule dating someone out because of their age and ability to make a baby.

Some people do think that far ahead, and its not a bad a thing. If one's goal in life is to make children, falling in love with a sterile person is going be a serious damper on their life. Love is great, but one must consider what is left when one fall out of love.

woman in their 40 become more sexual than in their 20s..? Huh... who claims this.

Guys peak sexually just about the time they peak physically - at around age 21 or so. Gals peak sexually around age 40. I can't tell you WHY women peak so much later than men, maybe it's a psychological thing with the approach of menopause, but it HAS been documented.

The only thing worse than Guys labeling women sluts and whores are Women labeling women sluts and whores.

Yep! And they`re everywhere.

You forgot the male sluts and whores. Seriously... the worst!

As long as they aren`t labeling other males as sluts and whores they can proceed as they like.

physiologically the most desirous and responsive to sex, not just when they are doing it more or even when they "decide" to do it more for reasons not directly tied to the desire. In other words, doing it to land a man does not count. More orgasms is an indicator at best, but not proof. The trouble with my definition is that it would need to be tested in a lab, and that's not possible. And that is why sexologists are constantly fooling with questionnaires, surveys and other stuff and constantly getting things wrong.

But women are more responsive when they are older as they are more comfortable with their body, what they like, who they are... I would also suggest that many 20 something women are doing it to "land a man" which would then again go with the older women being in their prime. How many 40 year old women do you think sit around going on about how they slept with him because they thought he liked her compared to how many 20 something do? I agree in many ways it doesn't make "sense" because it seems they'd be "past their prime" but I don't think the peak for sex has anything to do with "breeding" per say.

And yep, many women "want" to settle down but I have to wonder if that isn't a "taught" behaviour. The more independent women become, the less kids they have, the later they get married, the more likely of cheating/divorce... I think you'll see the numbers drop of women who "need" to have a man to make them feel complete or whole. Same goes for having kids. Look at Japan with regards to the issue here with that.

Like I said ages ago, I don't care who does what with whom as long as it is legal and everyone is okay with it all. Older guys can have their younger girls and no one bats an eye. This gets posted and all kinds of nasty things are being said about 20 something guys. Seems like a double standard to me. Rather unfair.

Also, marrying someone younger doesn't mean they won't be sterile. I feel for the couples who want to have kids but can't and can't imagine their pain. Could imagine the pain of being dumped for not being able to reproduce. More so when there are so many options out there these days.

tmarie Jun. 27, 2012 - 10:14PM JST Isn't it funny how men seem to assume that all women want relationships, babies, to settle down, have someone make more money than they do and look after them... Most probably have their own careers, their own money and don't "need" an older guy to "look after" them? Why the assumptions that these women are wanting marriage, kids...?

As Japanese women get into the 40's, and if they are single, most are insecure with their life, especially if they do not have partner. They want sense of security and protection. Women know what they are looking for and they re looking for a man who is confident in themselve but most the problem is most Japanese men have very little confidence. Women want a man who makes her feel like she's the only one but they also want men with a bit of "bad boy" qualities of not being predictable. Also, few Japanese men have good sense of humor to make her laugh and is a good listener.Women want to know you will be faithful. The key to faithfulness comes from your own inner character. Be a man of character and you will have a better relationship built upon trust. You gain respect through consistent committed action.

Meh. I think it's great but the most important factor is that the women are stopping around the 20s. Personally, if two people of legal age want to bump uglies, go for it. Having said that, at least the women are not diving into school boy territory. Some men treat women in their forties as expired milk as they take fantasize about much younger girls. This seems to be the next step in gender equality. If the married 40yos are doing it, why cant the unmarried ones do it as well.

But women are more responsive when they are older as they are more comfortable with their body, what they like, who they are..

The research is probably more relevant in the societies in which it was made. I would contend that it does not work the same for Japan.

I would also suggest that many 20 something women are doing it to "land a man" which would then again go with the older women being in their prime.

I only think it proves that females are more complicated.

I don't think the peak for sex has anything to do with "breeding" per say.

Well, we do have to be careful to not think it accounts for everything, but it does account for a lot.

Like I said ages ago, I don't care who does what with whom as long as it is legal

Odd that you should base your opinion on the law, which is the opinion of others. May as well just stop questioning things right now.

Older guys can have their younger girls and no one bats an eye.

If only that were true. I have heard older men dubbed pedos for dating college age girls about as much as I have heard middle age women defended for dating underage high school boys. It cuts both ways.

40 year old women should not let their guard down in thinking that boyfriends/husbands 10 years their junior aren't juggling them with a younger 'pichi pichi' girl.

Being in my early 30s, I remember a time in my late twenties when older women seemed more attractive than the girls of the same age. It really depends on the individual male and female's values and how they were raised of course, but if anything, the japanese media is what portrays "Japanese" men as feminine and is trying to convince Japanese women that young men (usually Korean) are hunks. This is undeniably an agenda of the press, but I won't get into that. Those here who REALLY believe that "Japanese" men are impotent are brainwashed by television and media news that wants you to think that way and maybe they just want to believe that to give themselves a false sense of confidence.

I happen to know many girly men and manly women and vice versa. I know 40+ year olds who can run a marathon much less kick the crap out of a 20 year old kid. The spectrum of types of people are so vast it comes down to what is right for you. When I reached 30 I did suddenly think that a 36 year old woman was too old for me, particularly because I was thinking about the health of a woman's eggs and viability for childbirth as they reached 40. While many men don't speak about this concern openly, there is a biological mechanism which determines fitness that is at work in the sub-conscience. The same goes for women, who find young men's biological fitness an 'important' factor, but the 40 year old 'cougars' are not likely thinking for the sake of offspring and more so for sexual needs and 'trophy' bf/husbands (same with the sugar daddy men, it goes both ways). The opposite can be said about young women who date older men, like Ueto Aya for instance, who (for some reason or another) find older men more stable, loyal, and settled down and often times go for the ones with money who can provide for their offspring. The key in that situation is finding a 'fit' older man. Younger women can come off as far less mature and have their priorities in the "wrong" place, but essentially what matters is finding the right mate who are spiritually/physiologically at the same stage in their lives with the same goals ( to start a family for instance ).

I don't see a problem in older women marrying younger men, but to characterize older men in their 40s as impotent and feminine is simply a rant by unsatisfied or undesirable women who end up being sugar-mommies to their bfs. There is also the flip-side where married men feel their wives don't desire them anymore because they begin to call them PAPA instead of ANATA.

My advice is to follow your heart, not an age gauge. I married my wife of the same age whom I've known since I was 7 years old, grew up with, parted ways with and was re-united with after college. I will never consider her old because she is the same age as me, as I never consider myself 'old'. While she does call me 'PAPA' sometimes now that we have a baby girl, she still also calls me by my name followed with -chan, a form of adoration that is both genuine and innocent like when we were children. And while there are times I am saddened by the notion that my wife will likely live to attend my funeral, it comforts me to know that she can be comforted by our children and grandchildren that leaves progeny behind that confirms that we had existed and loved each other (aside from providing for just my wife and child, I feel it is my duty to help raise my children to the point when they have their own). She also makes me eat healthy to help prolong my life too. It especially comforts my wife that she has known me for 25+ years, what I looked like as a kid and how I was as a young boy growing up that shaped me into the man I am today. There is no mystery about me to her, no hidden past that she needs to dig out or doesn't want to know. Through my experience, I've found happiness knowing my wife has been a part of my journey of Life ever since childhood, and that beauty and passionate love is not for just a fleeting moment like the sakura. The problem with many older people looking for young love is that they are trying to kid themselves and do things that make them feel young, when it should really be that they seek someone to grow old together with.

As Japanese women get into the 40's, and if they are single, most are insecure with their life, especially if they do not have partner. They want sense of security and protection. Women know what they are looking for and they re looking for a man who is confident in themselve but most the problem is most Japanese men have very little confidence. Women want a man who makes her feel like she's the only one but they also want men with a bit of "bad boy" qualities of not being predictable. Also, few Japanese men have good sense of humor to make her laugh and is a good listener.Women want to know you will be faithful. The key to faithfulness comes from your own inner character. Be a man of character and you will have a better relationship built upon trust. You gain respect through consistent committed action.

Wow. you've managed to insult not only Japanese women but Japanese men in this comment as well. Lots of genersalizations in here that i won't even bother asking you to provide sources and proof for because I know you can't.

Opinion, the "legal" thing is so people don't get into trouble with the law. I have met some very mature 16 years old and some pathetically immature 30 year olds in this country. The thing is, the law has to have a line and well, sometimes people fall on either side of that.

Indeed, some people make snide comments about old guys dating much younger women and vice versa but let's be honest, an old guy dating a young woman is socially more accepted than the other way around. Look at the replies here and the nasty comments made towards the young men. I don't see the same for the women. Gold digger or daddy issues is about it. The guys are called lazy, useless, gold diggers, mother issues... Probably the only time that men get blasted more than women with regards to one issue.

"Japanese" men as feminine and is trying to convince Japanese women that young men (usually Korean) are hunks. This is undeniably an agenda of the press,

Sorry, what? Can you explain why on earth you think the media is pushing women to want to like "Korean " hunks when there are millions of Japanese boy bands whom couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag. The media certainly isn't trying to turn anyone J females onto Koreans and to suggest so.... If anything, wouldn't it be the media turning men onto Korean women? I also don't agree with that. It is all marketing and money making but I think the old guys at the top of the networks would croak if they thought anyone suggested they are trying to turn anyone onto anything Korean. These guys are popular because they aren't your average johnny's boy band. People have different preferences and if these guys fill it for some, great but pushing an agenda? Only a money making one.

Ladies, I am available and in Sasebo!

aitsu wa, aitsu wa kawaii

toshi shita no otoko no ko!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chTGlsWkaa0

And Tmarie must be over 40? Any kids? Ouch!

Survey from goo Ranking looked at what are the good things about having a younger boyfriend.

1 He makes me feel young too 100 2 He’s cute 97.5 3 He’s surprisingly reliable 76.2 4 He expresses his feelings upfront 74.2 5 His innocent smile is healing 64.8 6 He’s surprisingly thoughtful 51.6 7 He wants to be spoiled 51.2 8 Because he’s so lively it’s fun to be together 51.2 9 He sometimes shows me his grown-up side 51.2 10 He tries with all his might to please me 49.2 11 I become upfront too 42.2 12 His passionate behaviour is easy to understand 36.1 13 I don’t need to aim too high 34.8 14 He obediently takes in people’s advice 29.5 15 I can enjoy teaching him various things 28.3 16 He listens to me with loving care 28.3 17 His elegance 27.5 18 It’s easy to mold him into the kind of guy I like 25.4 19 He doesn’t really get angry when slighted 24.2 20 He accepts my selfishness 23.8

Survey from goo Ranking looked at what are the good things about having a younger boyfriend.

1 He makes me feel young too 100 2 He’s cute 97.5 3 He’s surprisingly reliable 76.2 4 He expresses his feelings upfront 74.2 5 His innocent smile is healing 64.8 6 He’s surprisingly thoughtful 51.6 7 He wants to be spoiled 51.2 8 Because he’s so lively it’s fun to be together 51.2 9 He sometimes shows me his grown-up side 51.2 10 He tries with all his might to please me 49.2 11 I become upfront too 42.2 12 His passionate behaviour is easy to understand 36.1 13 I don’t need to aim too high 34.8 14 He obediently takes in people’s advice 29.5 15 I can enjoy teaching him various things 28.3 16 He listens to me with loving care 28.3 17 His elegance 27.5 18 It’s easy to mold him into the kind of guy I like 25.4 19 He doesn’t really get angry when slighted 24.2 20 He accepts my selfishness 23.8

My wife is 12years older than me. We've been together for 12 years, married for 10. We have two beautiful children and can't be move in love. Sex is great, and communication is open. To me, age is just a number.

And Tmarie must be over 40? Any kids? Ouch!

40? Nope. Not even close.

Kids? Oh yes, of course, I must want to have them or have them as I am a women, right? Ever thought that some women can't have kids? You man enough to apologize for the snide comment you know nothing about? I figure you must be a man based on your comments...

I heard somewhere (forgot whence), that the ideal age ratio of male to female is as follows: Woman's age = half the mans age, plus 7 years. Example: With a 40 y.o. man, take half his age, 20, add 7, and this equal 27. Thus according to this formula, a 40 y.o. man is ideally matched with a 27 y.o. woman. Of course, this does not mean that as people age that they continually change partners, but rather, this serves as a guide for a man that is single, or has become single, in selecting a new partner.

This formula is rational at all age levels, because in the younger range, the resulting difference is rather close, example: 26 y.o. man with 20 y.o. woman. At older ages, it serves the social needs of women in acquiring the assets of old men. For example, this formula would put an 80 y.o. man with a 47 y.o. woman. This is not an entirely unreasonable proposition for the woman, as a 47 y.o. women would be a real desirable mate to an 80 y.o. man, and she will soon be rewarded with his assets upon his imminent passing while she is still young enough to enjoy them, and she can repeat the process.

Of course upon hearing this formula, women ask if can apply to them as the older party. Yes, certainly it can, as this article seems to indicate.

Sounds very good for women in 40's but not good for boys in the long run. Hope their marrigelast for ever but afarid it may not due to obvious reasons like women shall be grabbed by wrinkles and lover instincts and bearing children etc.

"Nowadays women in their 40's are still young"...Is that supposed to be news??? LOL

Watch out for Diarrhoea! I hear that if a man/boy does sex with a woman twice his age or more, you will develop incurable diarrhoea until specialist doctors intervene!

Older women younger men. The menage has been around for quite a while. And it has nothing to do with guys wanting mothers or older sisters. Part of ill-spent youth was spent in the arms of older women. Not one could I remotely call motherly or older sisterly. What brings older women and younger men together is adventure. Young men are on the make and older women, having left the insecurities of youth behind them, are on the make to be made. When permanent unions result I am not sure what happens in the end. I suspect that in the best of unions the partners never grow old in each others eyes, as the Louis Armstrong song says. You know why older men and younger women get on? Older men, having had their flings, want security, which is what younger women want. It all works out in the end--or doesn't.

Go to Roppongi on Wednesday's and Thursday's. Less Hood Rats !!!! Less immature women and more of THE REAL WOMEN OF TOKYO.

If your into simple, childish, immature, mentally challenged, quickie,vd infested, & confused women go there on Saturday's.

tmarie Jun. 28, 2012 - 09:24AM JST Wow. you've managed to insult not only Japanese women but Japanese men in this comment as well. Lots of genersalizations in here that i won't even bother asking you to provide sources and proof for because I know you can't.

When I mentioned about a partner, I meant boyfriends or girlfriends that they can trust and possibly live with or being a close friends that they don't live with, and not referring to marriage or husbands. More education has contributed to the decline of marriage, because Japanese women with the most education have always been the most reluctant to wed and there are now many more highly educated women.

Everyone has the right to love, don't they? Good for the "cougars" to do their job, after all us men do the same thing when we get to that age (I'm not old but it is understandable, its an age thing).

Foreigners wanting to bring their "cougar" terms and culture into a country that doesn't really give a rat's ass about age. It is not a rarity about a young man marrying a woman doubling his age, same with a woman marrying a man doubling her age, The Japanese don't care and pay no attention to something as insignificant as someone's age. Generally speaking that's how they are. I've been here forever, I have been witness to the broad differences between here and there. In America, Canada and perhaps other western nations to be a 80 year old man and marry the 20 year old girl seems completely acceptable and cheered on but for some men..the 45 year old "Cougar" to date a 30 year old man is an abomination so to speak. God forbid a woman dares to date someone younger than her. That must be a freak and sick person..or so they say. It shows the sort of society you are living in. Some of these men labeling these women "Cougars" must be really ego bruised and deeply hurt inside. They feel intimidated and highly threatened that other men dare to be with whoever they feel like regardless of age. Admit to your own failure to accept others. Admit that you are jealous and hurt. If you didn't envy them, you wouldn't have anything negative to say here. It's despicable for people to come to this country with their own generalizations and unfounded stereotypes. Looking down on Japanese men as well. I know a lot of wonderful amazing people, men and women in this country. Can't really use terms like "Japanese this, Japanese that, all Japanese blah blah" when I refer to them. I like the term "some" when I talk about something. I don't like dumping everyone in the same category. It's insulting and disrespectful to act as if everybody was the same when they are not. I have zero problems with an old man dating/marrying a young woman, same with an old woman dating/marrying a young man. Same gender couples as well. If they are happy, good for them. If they are solely looking for a thrill, good for them. You come here and insult these women you call cougars by tell telling them that their young guys must having someone young on the side. That they are just being played and lied to. LOL Did ever occurred to you how many young girls are in the same situation with a man doubling their age? Some of these young women who are with these old men just because they are in love with their money, not them. They feel repulse to have such old guy touching them, they feel ick. But the money is worth waiting for. Patience and tolerance. Ugly cases like this happen both ways. Get off your high-horse and stop denigrating these people. They are free to date and marry whoever they want, regardless of age!! You will not come here and dictate your own biased personal views. Your country is not the world example nor is your society. Don't bring your own foreign morals and values in here because it doesn't work like that. If Japanese people are ok with them, good for them, if not..good for them as well. I am nobody to criticize both groups. Old men with young women, Old women with young men. I'm happy for both and wish them the best regardless of their real intentions and goals. Every single man and woman is different...everybody is unique. Generalizations are despicable and make this thread nauseating. Enough with it. Don't hate the player, hate the game. Live and let live! Cheers~

@chris-kun

Everyone has the right to love, don't they? Good for the "cougars" to do their job, after all us men do the same thing when we get to that age (I'm not old but it is understandable, its an age thing).

So according to your generalization: "In your own country ALL men get to a certain age when they have to look for a young thing, and if they are married, that would mean they will cheat in order to get the young thing". This is exactly what you just told us by posting a gross generalization on your comment. The "us men" is only inside your head. It's only YOU, don't drag all men into your own convictions. It's like someone saying "All men are smelly and they leave the toilet seat dirty" You see now? It's very unfair for them. Have a good one.

@Franchesca

It is not a rarity about a young man marrying a woman doubling his age, same with a woman marrying a man doubling her age

Well it is actually. Unless you've found some obscure, hitherto ignored definition of "rarity".

@lucabrasi

Well it is actually. Unless you've found some obscure, hitherto ignored definition of "rarity".

Not it is not. If an older woman marrying a younger man was a rarity, it would way often on the news and magazines, like the National Enquirer? Where does it says that a person, actually a woman, must date/marry someone older than her ONLY? Is there a new law I don't know anything about? Hmm. Just let it go. Not you, not me, not any one will tell another person with who they need to be with. If you care about another fellow man going to bed with a women older than he is, then YOU have a serious, serious problem. :-) Cheers~

@lucabrasi

Well it is actually. Unless you've found some obscure, hitherto ignored definition of "rarity".

Not it is not. If an older woman marrying a younger man was a rarity, it would way often on the news and magazines, like the National Enquirer? Where does it says that a person, actually a woman, must date/marry someone older than her ONLY? Is there a new law I don't know anything about? Hmm. Just let it go. Not you, not me, not any one will tell another person with who they need to be with. If you care about another fellow man going to bed with a women older than he is, then YOU have a serious, serious problem. :-) Cheers~

@Franchesca

If an older woman marrying a younger man was a rarity, it would way often on the news and magazines, like the National Enquirer?

I agree completely with what you're saying here, but it's very different from your previous post which used the word "double". I stand by what I said: a person marrying somebody double their age is a rarity.

As for morals, I agree with you completely as it happens. If two partners in a relationship are both safe and content together then age, race, religion and sexuality are utterly irrelevant. None of our business. :)

@lubracasi

Whooops! I know exactly what you mean now.. The "doubling her/her age" part. What I really meant was about the normal average...few years, sometimes some more. But couples like she's 60 and he's 30 or he's 50 and she's 25 its not extremely common. It's like you say..pretty rare. Sorry for my mistake. It is a lot more common people 5~7 years of difference especially between Older woman Younger man. Thank you for pointing that out, you are right. My Apologies. :)

Franchesca, you make a very good point. Older women/younger men is much more socially accepted here than "home". No negative comments/nicknames from the locals in my experience.

Older men, having had their flings, want security, which is what younger women want. It all works out in the end--or doesn't.

Does it? Seems to me that some of these young women get sick of older guys and when they hit 40 they date younger guys. Sort of leaves the old guys out in the cold, no?

Um, Suzuki Kyoka? Pretty when she was younger, stunning in her 40s.

ReformedBasher,, Suzuki Kyoka is a gei-no-jin....it goes without saying. I'm talking about ordinary obasans in their 40s...

A man who is usually older thinks-believes he can do as he pleases because he has the money, ego, power. the woman thinks she has to give her body each time the man gives her money or gifts in return for sex. she also thinks she is expected to do what her mother did. both conform to what society expects or they are not normal. there is no friendship, no romance, no love, no respect. the man can't show it, and the woman dreams of it. tradition and reality is so different. people live in one both want to live in the other and if they want to live diffrently, do not know how to do it. one has to be strong and brave if they wish do as they please and not worry what society dictates and expects. age, its really not that important if you love someone, and if there is anything more important than love than you have a problem...

she also thinks she is expected to do what her mother did. both conform to what society expects or they are not normal.

This is clearly changing. If it wasn't, Japan wouldn't be having issues with the birth rate right now. The marrying age wouldn't be moving up and well, Japanese women wouldn't be dating so many younger guys.

Thank god it IS changing!

マザーコン。。。

First they were replaced with white poodles, now with younger men. Perhaps it is about women not wanting to grow up at all and face someone their own age.

"Nowadays women in their 40's are still young"...Is that supposed to be news???

No. It's wishful thinking.

Now, what Pangloss could have downrated my post? "Young" means being in the first or early stage of life or growth; youthful; not old:

Humans live 80 years or so. Humans reach puberty around the age of 12.

40 is not "young."

40 is not "young."

have to agree. funny how articles like this never touch on what a huge industry the hair-dye biz is.

40 is not "young."

Enough of young or old. The issue is those 40s Obas prefer young men. Period. In 5-10 years those young men are going to move on to younger Obas..anyway...:)

Saffire The Uppity Blues Women sang it loudest and best:

Well I was looking round and checking out my very best friends

Seems that they'd all taken up with the young young men...

Seems that when you reach around middle age

You don't want a final chapter, you want to write another page...

I need a young man, to drive away my middle-age blues

Well seems like men my age are all married, boring or tired

You got to find a young man if you want to feel desired...

Now some of my friends is worried 'bout what people may say,

I say age ain't nothin' but a number the good lord made it that way...

I need a young man, to drive away my middle-age blues

You know he can get it up and he can get on down

He'll help you do the dishes, take you out on the town...

He'll let you navigate cause he ain't worried 'bout seniority

You can tell him where to put it, keeping you happy is his priority

I need a young, young man, to drive away my middle-age blues

Well i'll forget about my arthritis, my backache, my lumbago

That young man makes me tango at the horizontal disco

I'm cleaning out my closet, I'm no longer sentimental

Forget about experience, I'd rather have potential

A young man to drive away my middle age blues

An old woman don't yell

An old woman don't tell

An old woman don't swell

An she's grateful as hell

I need a young, young man, to drive away my middle-age blues

Age ain't nothin but a number And like a rare wine, you don't get older, you just get better...

@Maria:

Saffire The Uppity Blues Women sang it loudest and best:

That's very funny Maria.

On the bright side, this might just lead more younger women to look to older men for companionship. It's a lot easier for a older guy to get it up for a 25 year than for a 45 year old.

It works for me. I'm 47 and most men my age are dating or marrying younger which results in a large availability of middle aged women for the younger men. We are at the prime of our lives because by this age you don't think of sexual pleasure as a means of procreating as we were thought by very religious parents. Now we do it for pleasures sake just like men had discovered centuries ago. Also at this age we aren't looking to be taken care of. Most of us have careers, money and our apartment or homes. We are also not looking necessarily for marriage, but companionship. The younger men that appreciate the older woman may be the smartest men of all because its usually a win win situation.

49 plus females finding love, and or companionship with younger men, why not? There does not seem to be so much of a taboo with older men and younger females.Go for it you women who meet the guy of your dreams and to !!!! with the begrudgers. I guess I have lived long enough to learn not to be critical of other peoples choices.

i can see why, i wouldnt date a woman my age either, they're usually boring after five minutes, lacking life and into shiht i dont give a shiht about (pls dont deny posts based on american language or i will turn to speaking dutch and replace fcuck with neuk) thanks

Christina O'NeillJul. 02, 2012 - 10:05AM JST 49 plus females finding love, and or companionship with younger men, why not? There does not seem to be so much of a taboo with older men and younger females.

What to do if you fall in love with the men in the 20's and he want to start a family and want you to get pregnant now. Men are capable of fathering a child in his 60's but women after 45 is almost impossible. The biggest downside for women putting off pregnancy until your 40s is significant. It's harder to get pregnant the longer you wait. Pregnancy complications are another concern. About half of women over 40 have fertility problems and miscarriage rates begin to skyrocket in your 40s as well.

Fun while it lasts...

sfip330, It is not my place or business to be judgemental concerning other peoples romantic choices. If both persons are over the age of consent, why should I tell them who to date. If a woman wants to be a mother, it is up to her to achieve this during her fertile years. If a man wishes to have children then he will in all probability find a partner with simular wishes.I have no other thoughts on the subject, other then, live and let live.

Just a thought, very early in the morning SJT, that is Standing Japan Time, how many guys here, men, would be cougars, if they were not guys? Say all of us dudes here on JT, presto magico, turned into WOMEN, kind of a scary thought, but I guess if you just wanted sex, bit of romance, excitement most dudes here on JT would be more than cougars, not too sure what that world would be??? Fun?? Crazy?? Thank god no Taliban here in Japan!

This one is for Yuko Minaguchi, the voice of Nene Anegasaki, where menopause is getting much more acute than ever

Older Japanese women and younger Japanese men have both learnt to accept a lot less. Less money less responsibility less morals less social justice. So they are a perfect match. Again so sad again for the great Japan. Oh how the mighty have fallen.

Ugh no thank you to this

I don't want Japanese women becoming like American women. Brain washed by Sex and the City and Desperate housewives, which tries to tell women that 40 is the new 20...LOL please.

40 is past the expiration date for most women to find Rich Successful confident men to have serious relationships with. So what choice do they have but to give it up to the younger guys who aren't established yet? Or maybe date a younger guy who isn't as confident and is easy to control

Hey this is great to all you young guys out there, cause these 40 year old women are great bench warmers. They will be there to give you what you need, until you can hone your skill and make that $$$, then upgrade to a nice tight 20 year old

Don't get me wrong, there are hot 40 year old women out there, but I sure as hell wouldn't marry any of them. 40 year old hot women are like a Used Mercedes. Still nice cars, and great to drive, until you can afford to own that brand new 2012 model

I lived in Japan for two and a half years and I dated a fair number of older women. The relationships in general were much better than those of girls my own age. The zeitgeist of the times is changing, and as you can tell from the responses to this opinion: http://opscotch.com/opinion/detail/its-ok-for-guys-to-date-women-10-years-older-than-them , most people today don't think it's a bad thing for an older girl to date a younger man.

This is so making me angry currently. I am sry I don't think japanese woman look younger than others. & I think when they date younger they are just disgusting and have issues. I was in Japan for a long and I not saw one which looked really better or younger than her age. When I look around in the country I live I see a lot better looking and younger looking woman than there. & no they are not slimmer, their heads are just bigger. Look at photos were a japanese and a western woman are at, you will see her head is just bigger. Thats why their bodies usually look thinner, but aren't. & sry, woman who take younger ones have absolutely no pride to me. They definitly have just issues to me. Seems like they want to be mens nothing else. I saw enough how such woman made young man suffer coz they play dominant and can't take a real man then. They are not charming and also not like mother anymore, they simply dont care anything. Just disgusting selfish brats. They are just cocky and superficial and the worst is when they even grab on the western younger man, just to make their image better, coz they think it is so cool being with a foreigner. But those woman give a damn about what their bfs desire or need. Such woman just make the world to a worse place and make society bad. & no this is not only against japanese older woman. I know in other countries they are also this kind of woman. They are nearly all the same disgusting. & they are really only a few who really fall in love with someone. The most just can't handle their age or whatever issues they have.

Wow, somebody woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning!