Will a summer vacationer bring back Ebola to Japan?

Frungy.

Pls, do us a favour and read up on Ebola and how it is spread. You are the one giving out wrong information.

There is no medicine to cure in any countries because they have not made medicine against Ebola.

This means that public toilets are a risk vector, as are any area where large numbers of people collect... like the Tokyo subway... a few sneezes and... BOOM!

Do you go around licking public toilet seats? Because if you do, then worry. If you don't, you're fine. Viruses use liquid/mucous to get into the body through the nose/throat etc. Sitting down to curl on out in a public toilet will not get you infected. Unless you have open sores on your ass or something.

Let's stop fear-mongering and deal in factual information. From the WHO website: "Ebola then spreads in the community through human-to-human transmission, with infection resulting from direct contact (through broken skin or mucous membranes) with the blood, secretions, organs or other bodily fluids of infected people, and indirect contact with environments contaminated with such fluids. Burial ceremonies in which mourners have direct contact with the body of the deceased person can also play a role in the transmission of Ebola. Men who have recovered from the disease can still transmit the virus through their semen for up to 7 weeks after recovery from illness." Sound hard to get from someone on the subway.

Frungy.

I have read your posts here for years and know the futility of trying to correct you. Gave you my source and zilch from you ....

I think there are more concerns about China. Millions of Chinese workers go to all over Africa for their companies. If someone is infected with Ebola and come back home, then contagion would come to Japan sooner or later, just like bird virus.

How many Japanese are likely to be vacationing in west Africa, especially with this going on? Sheesh - I know of Japanese who cancelled their holiday in Hawaii whe the Iraq thing was going on. I dont see any Japanese holidaying in Liberia of all places!

So you are a specialist, higher trained and more knowledgeable than the WHO.

Can I visit your clinic? I said read up about Ebola and how it is spread.

So give me one source only, pls, I don't trust the US CDC.

Done here.

I read the while article and read a lot of 'believed to', 'not verified', ' not understood', etc. In short it said we don't know and understand it.

Maybe I read English different from you.

I have medical sources to back up everything I claimed

.You've been reading too many Tom Clancy novels, and what's worse you believe it!

From your source:

PREPARED BY: Pathogen Regulation Directorate, Public Health Agency of Canada.

Although the information, opinions and recommendations contained in this Pathogen Safety Data Sheet are compiled from sources believed to be reliable, we accept no responsibility for the accuracy, sufficiency, or reliability or for any loss or injury resulting from the use of the information. Newly discovered hazards are frequent and this information may not be completely up to date.

We could hold a debate which us worse CDC or WHO.

I only deny what has been debunked by the CDC, WHO, IATA, IACO, etc.

http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/study-confirms-ebola-not-transmitted-through-air

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/07/31/travel/ebola-planes-air-travel/index.html?iid=article_sidebar

I think there are more concerns about China.

I am more concerned about China bringing something to Africa. The conditions in China for many people are pretty bad. They have already quarantined a town for the Bubonic plagued.

http://www.vox.com/2014/8/10/5980553/ebola-outbreak-virus-aerosol-airborne-pigs-monkeys/in/5712456

Yes I believe Ebola will be brought back from West Africa by a vacationing Japanese tourist. Hey... they asked!

@ Illyas

This is a major historical fallacy. From wikipedia:

Guatemalans were intentionally infected with STDs.....

African Americans were intentionally infected........(Tuskegee experiment)

Jews were intentionally infected with various viruses and bacteria..........

You want to try again? Do your research before you post something from Wikipedia!

Instead of going into a pandemic panic mode, be prepared to settle down if Ebola lands close to your homeland wherever that maybe. Prepare by getting plenty of food, water, first aid supplies, face masks, and something to keep you occupied in the event you are confined to your quarters. Be prepared to physically isolate yourself especially from large crowds, avoid commercial travel, and head out to your bug-out-location if you have one. If you work outside the home, plan to telecommute if you can and if not, take some vacation time. Above all use common sense and keep a level head about you.

Seasonal flu kills between 250,000 to 500,000 people worldwide yearly. (WHO) I don't see anyone panicking.

Can Japanese tourists bring back Ebola virus? Sure if they visit W. Africa and get infected.

This really needs to be contained by the UN with troops in NBC suits to prevent infected people spreading it out of the contamination zone. May not be PC, but unless a drug is supplied to kill this off drastic action may be needed to protect the rest of the world.... sorry, that was "Outbreak"...

Seriously though, why haven't the boffins been working night and day to produce a vaccine? In this day and age, why are we scared of something akin to the Black Death?

I went overseas a few weeks ago and they already have the fever screening detectors up at the airport. It reminds me of when they did it for the pig flu and SARS before that. There are a good number of Nigerians in Japan and bet they will get an extra look if they come into Japan in the near future.

What are the chances that a Japanese summer vacationer visits Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone? - Exploitation of fear at its worst.

What a stimulating debate. I am now fully enlightened and plan to take the following precautionary measures. Avoid roppongi no kissing or shaking hands. Avoid anyone who has been to Africa. also be wary around Chinese tourists. don't go to Africa myself. Wear mask and surgical gloves at all times.

Any other suggestions about how to stay safe.

Wipeout.

Give up, safe your time.

News and Health Organisations have been saying all the same for some time already.

I think sooner or later Ebola will crop up in other continents, and places like Japan. It's not like they're close to eradicating it in the mother countries. Still getting transmitted via bushmeat consumption. Is there any effort at all to eradicate it from the source?

@It's ME @Frungy

This downplays the risk from Ebola patients, due to protection measures. What about Ebola patients BEFORE they become patients?

http://www.vox.com/2014/8/10/5980553/ebola-outbreak-virus-aerosol-airborne-pigs-monkeys/in/5712456

Of course, it's entirely possible that a big spit droplet from a human Ebola patient could fly a few feet through the air and land on someone else. But current Ebola protection measures seem to guard against this. Health-care workers are told to cover their faces and bodies with protective gear, for example, and patients are generally separated from the general population by a buffer zone of plastic fencing.

@Illyas

Guatemalans were intentionally infected with STDs.....

African Americans were intentionally infected........(Tuskegee experiment)

Jews were intentionally infected with various viruses and bacteria..........

You want to try again? Do your research before you post something from Wikipedia!

Don't forget the Japanese also infected the Chinese for experiments. Iraq and Syria was also condemned for biological warfare!

It is not too far fetch to believe a nation would start an international crisis at the expense of another country for their own gain. It's been going on for the past 600 years at least with West.

I would say Illyas is way off!

@Illyas

This is a historical fallacy.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_biological_warfare

There are two documented instances of biological warfare by the British against North American Indians during Pontiac's Rebellion (1763–66). In the first, during a parley at Fort Pitt on June 24, 1763, Captain Simeon Ecuyer gave representatives of the besieging Delawares two blankets and a handkerchief that had been exposed to smallpox, hoping to spread the disease to the Natives in order to end the siege.[14] William Trent, the militia commander, left records that clearly indicated that the purpose of giving the blankets was "to Convey the Smallpox to the Indians."[15]

British commander Lord Jeffrey Amherst and Swiss-British officer Colonel Henry Bouquet discussed the topic separately in the course of the same conflict; there exists correspondence referencing the idea of giving smallpox-infected blankets to enemy Indians. It cited four letters from June 29, July 13, 16 and 26th, 1763. Excerpts: Amherst wrote on July 16, 1763, "P.S. You will Do well to try to Inocculate the Indians by means of Blankets, as well as to try Every other method that can serve to Extirpate this Execrable Race. I should be very glad your Scheme for Hunting them Down by Dogs could take Effect,..." Bouquet replied on July 26, 1763, "I received yesterday your Excellency's letters of 16th with their Inclosures. The signal for Indian Messengers, and all your directions will be observed." Smallpox is highly infectious and does not require contaminated blankets to spread uncontrollably, and — together with measles, influenza, chicken pox, and so on — had been doing so since the arrival of Europeans and their animals. Trade and combat also provided ample opportunity for transmission of the disease. See also: Small pox during Pontiac's Rebellion. It is unclear if the blanket attempt succeeded. It is estimated that between 400,000-500,000 Native American Indians during and after the war died from smallpox.[13][16][17]

@kurisupisu: How many Japanese go to Africa?

A better question is how many Japanese (or people traveling to Japan) make a connection via an airport or airplane that was used by a traveler who was sick with Ebola but was still asymptomatic. Most countries are not screening flyers for fevers or signs of illness.

American Patrick Sawyer was able to travel from Liberia to Ghana, change planes in Togo and arrive in Nigeria, where he died - ultimately infecting others in Nigeria. We don't yet know how many others he infected along the way.

From what I've read, Frungy is correct about incubation period, and aerosolization. There is also plenty of evidence that this virus survives for several days outside a host and is transmissible via fomite (surfaces, objects).

@It"sMe: You mention the travel ban during SARS. The mortality rate was about 15-20% for SARS depending on the patient's age and where they lived. Aren't you curious why there isn't a travel ban for this outbreak of Ebola when the mortality rate for this strain is about 55-60% ?

Frungy - I know, I was just mentioning it to you.

Anyway ...

My little kid and mother-in-law and I in quick succession caught stomach flu several years ago, probably norovirus or rotavirus or similar, projectile vomiting and diarrhea. On another occasion, in spite of not frequenting hotels, constantly cleaning hands, etc., I caught stomach flu on a drive halfway across the US a couple of years ago when there was an outbreak during holiday season.

Aerosolization could apply to Ebola, but doesn't have to be a major cause of outbreaks. Someone goes wiping their nose or drool or bee you tee tee and then spreads germs through the airport, door knobs at city hall, etc. Should be enough to worry about.

I told you it would happen. I'm just curious as to the nature of so many Chinese health care professionals being in the West African country at the time of the outbreak. Things like this does make you wonder some time!

" Eight Chinese quarantined as panic grips Ebola-hit west Africa "

http://news.yahoo.com/eight-chinese-quarantined-ebola-hit-leone-184831106.html

I wonder about how many nations gain to profit from continuing to do business countries under quarantine.

Sierra Leone produces diamonds and Nigeria produces oil. It's no telling how many rare minerals these two nations possess.

Look, nobody in the Japan of the west is going to contract Ebola so calm down mass-media.

It is not very contagious at all, you have to go out of your way to deliberately touch the blood or mucus of someone who has contracted it. The symptoms occur as soon as contracted so why would you touch the body fluids of someone who was bleeding out of their mouth and eyeballs!?

Will a member of AKB48 start the Zombie Apocalypse?

A tad more likely.

The original cases were most likely contracted by eating infected bush-meat(fruit-bat or monkey). Since it cannot be contracted via the aerosol method, that has so many frightened.

Where the heck and how would a two year old contract the disease?

Pathogens are out there. For the most part, they are not picked up because people's immune systems kill them off before they can make the person sick. Once the person is sick, the amount of the pathogen increases, and can then be passed onto others.

There is something fishy here.

No there isn't. Don't let your lack of education on the matter cause you to see goblins where they don't exist.

Because you do not share the views of someone else that doesn’t mean you should resort to insults. You are totally ignorant of how the virus started, and so am I. There is nothing to say I am wrong in my assumptions. No one can deny that ‘pathogens are out there.’ However, since we are specifically referring to the Ebola virus here, let’s look at how this particular type of pathogen is transmitted. The virus may be acquired upon contact with blood or bodily fluids of an infected animal. Spread through the air has not been documented in the natural environment. What is the likelihood that a two-year old would come in contact with the blood or bodily fluid from the original source of the disease, before his/her parents or other family members? Up until December 6, 2013, Ebola was unknown in West Africa. According to a research team that studied the Guinea outbreak, ‘No one can explain how such a small child could have become the first person infected. Contaminated fruit is one possibility. An injection with a contaminated needle is another.’ Food for thought: Extract from the San Francisco Medical Research Foundation, ‘San Francisco - AIDS and Ebola viruses did not originate from monkeys left alone in the wild - they were bioengineered in American laboratories. So says an internationally known public health authority with Harvard credentials, Dr. Leonard G. Horowitz, based on a review of more than 2,500 government documents and scientific reports, some gained through the Freedom of Information Act and never before revealed to the general public.

It will happen, i don't think there will be a pandemic, but it will happen. There are just too many people floating around the world.

Wipeout - I'm not panicking, I'm trying to point out that, given the risk, it only makes sense to help Africa out here, and is in everyone's best interests.

You seem intent on dismissing any and all risk. Kindof like how Rome decided those Barbarians could NEVER invade... right up until they did.

The problem with some people is that they have no vision. The U.S. talks big about making friends, but when a chance comes to actually help out in a real way they're nowhere to be seen... unless it involves blowing something up.

Does anyone in their right mind go to these countries anyway? I mean except for doctors nurses and aid workers, I hardly think its on many obon travel brochures.

As a retired public health nurse - there is some merit to what Frungy posted above, about the danger of an infected person sneezing on you. Ebola is contained in body fluids- including silva and mucus. Look up a slow motion video of someone sneezing. That's mucus, silva and whatever else being expelled from the individual. So, technically- yes- you could become infected that way. That's why health workers wear such extreme barriers ( the suits, goggles, gloves.. Etc) to protect from all possible exposure-interesting though- some health care workers were still infected. Where and how- is not known, nevertheless - they were. Be aware, be informed, don't panic, take precautions. Be prepared to shelter in place if there is an outbreak.

There are a few people who are nonchalant about contracting this in a crowded subway. However, think about this, regardless of what the published info about this epidemic is. People who contract it are placed in solitary isolation. Even health workers who wear protective gear are contracting the virus. Although the "established" information claims it's not an airborne disease, ask yourself "would you be so unconcerned if someone in the same crowded train as you was coughing or sneezing around you and you knew that the virus was in your town or city? Verified cases and more suspected cases are popping up in the USA now (just read the news). It's just a matter of time before it hits Japan, and when it does, isolating and preventing it still remains to be seen. One last fact about the "airborne or not issue"...The published data states that it is not airborne. HOWEVER...vomiting is also a symptom of this illness. If someone vomits in a plane, train or bus and has it, then guess what...it's airborne. Think this is not possible? If you have lived in Japan for any length of time, either you or someone you know has contracted NOROVIRUS. You know about noro, especially if you are an English teacher in the school system here. Would you want someone known with Noro coughing or sneezing on you, even though they say it's not airborne? With Eblola, it's a matter of life and death, not just sitting on the toilet for a few days.

I go by the WHO official info. Easy to Google and read and I think they are the best source.

What are yours?

Silvafan.

A dirty nuclear bomb doesn't scare me as much as a dirty chemical/biological one.

Outbreak was a pretty good Sci-Fi movie even though it exaggerated things.

Ebola has had no travel ban and precautions as were taken during the SARS outbreaks as infection risk is considered lower.

Not to mention, Western countries have a history of purposely infected disadvantaged minorities for their own gains. Whether it were Native Americans, Africans, Aborigines, Indians etc.........

This is a major historical fallacy. From wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_disease_and_epidemics#Disease_as_a_potential_weapon_against_Native_Americans

"There is only one documented instance in which disease was proposed to be used as a weapon against Native American tribes. During the French and Indian War, Jeffery Amherst, 1st Baron Amherst, Britain's commander in chief in North America suggested using the smallpox disease to wipe out their Native American enemy."

Oh and those smallpox blankets?

"There is current scholarly dissent to the theory that the outbreaks of smallpox may have been aided by the intentional spreading of disease. Allegations of smallpox-infested blankets being intentionally given to Native Americans in 1763 at the Siege of Fort Pitt were proved false."

And before you claim that wikipedia isn't a valid source, both of those have citations. Moreover, we're talking about a time before Germ Theory of Disease was even developed. Many people thought plague was caused by evil spirits or other stuff. Heck, you had self-flagellation occuring during the Black Death, causing even more death and destruction. Would you also suggest the Europeans purposefully infected themselves during the Black Death?

How many Japanese go to Africa?

Not many.....

Don't you miss the good old days of avian flu?

Are there a lot of people "vacationing" in Nigeria or Liberia? Is there a Sandals resort I don't know about?

No, no you forget that it can be spread via aerosol contagion.

Even on the news they said it can be spread like SARS. /sarcasm

The first Ebola case started with a two (2) years old child. Where the heck and how would a two year old contract the disease? There is something fishy here. This more look like an intended genocide. AIDS backfired and they didn't learn from it. Now it's Ebola, and there is a cure which has so far only been used on the infected Americans. The cure is there, but is reserved for those the virus was not intended for. I fully support what Benjamin Fulford stated.

Now they have a new 'quick test drug' I guess they'll be rolling it out at the airports. Of course Japan being Japan they'll probably eschew the logical course of testing everyone that lands from west Africa (including Japanese BTW) and just test every black person that comes through regardless of embarkation point.

moneyyenAug. 12, 2014 - 09:10AM JST Just simply stop all travel to or from those countries.

Why do common sense answers get down voted on this forum? Traveling to another country with a deadly communicable virus is not a human right. The affected countries should take their own steps to limit travel until they get control of the infection, if they are unwilling or incapable of controlling their borders, it should be done for them by an international organization.

Wipeout - You're overlooking population density and transport infrastructure. In the countries where Ebola is currently the population density is very low, which means that the number of people an infected person comes into contact is low. People also aren't very mobile, they tend to stay in the same area and this makes cases easy to isolate and treat. Consider the average Tokyo'ite who might commute an hour or more every day covering multiple train lines and coming into direct contact with dozens of people on the trains.

It is chalk and cheese. Simply not comparable.

Wipeout - Why so rude? I have merely been pointing out that IF Ebola spread to Japan it would be far more severe than in Africa. Your response is it isn't in Japan so no worries? And somehow Japan's medical infrastructure would stop a 15-20% fatality rate?

No. Ebola's biggest problem factor is it's long incubation period, about 3 weeks. During that time someone could travel around the world, and once it is in a city we'd need at least two months clear of cases before we could declare the city safe.

Unless we could develop an early test for Ebola. Something that would let us identify and treat patients before they became ill. That's why a little action now on developing an early screening test could save a lot of trouble later.

Oh, and it would also help to reduce casualties in Africa.

wipeoutAug. 14, 2014 - 05:40PM JST

Right, merely. But there is no reason to suppose so, other than that it sounds thrillingly scary.

And so far, this disease has, for decades, failed to spread beyond Africa.

You're mistaken. Since 1989 there have been 6 incidents of Ebola making it outside of Africa. 3 times to the USA, and every time in the USA it was caught because it wasn't a human case, it was in monkeys in quarantine.

The reason there were no fatalities? Because it was Reston, which doesn't transfer to humans. The other places with Reston Ebola were Italy (1) and Philippines (2 incidents). Interestingly in the Philippines 3 humans showed Reston antibodies.

There is no quarantine procedure for humans. Ebola is asymptomatic for up to 3 weeks.

With increased international travel becoming quicker and easier (where you are to pretty much anywhere in the world in about a day) I think it would be lunacy to presume that Ebola will remain localised forever.

wipeoutAug. 15, 2014 - 08:14PM JST For purposes of efficiency, I'll cop to a mistake, but in other words, it didn't spread

It did spread, but was caught by mandatory animal quarantines which allowed the disease to be contained in the quarantine facility (where many monkeys died). There is no quarantine for humans.

An instructive comparison would be with HIV/AIDS.

No, it wouldn't be, because HIV/AIDS is actually pretty difficult to contract. The infection vectors are very specific, the infection rate is very low (less than 1% unless you actually inject yourself with infected blood) and getting HIV from a single sexual contact is a lot like getting pregnant the first time you have sex - highly unlikely, but not impossible.

Ebola on the other hand is a far more virulent pathogen with multiple infection vectors and a high infection rate, and would better be compared to influenza... and we all know that influenza spreads like crazy.

Wipeout - Do you know what a strawman argument is? Because your post is a good example. I stated:

Ebola on the other hand is a far more virulent pathogen with multiple infection vectors and a high infection rate, and would better be compared to influenza... and we all know that influenza spreads like crazy.

Multiple infection vectors and high infection rate, comparable to influenza. I never stated the infection vectors were the same as influenza.

Yet your post goes on and on and on about how it isn't spread in exactly the same way as influenza.

You're the only one saying this. I certainly didn't.

You're arguing with yourself. ... and the best you can really hope for these is a tie.

Wipeout - Like AIDs was squashed? Like influenza is squashed?

Oh, wait, neither of these have ever been squished. The only diseases we've managed to squash are diseases we can vaccinate against.

The higher population density in major cities is a very real concern. Every year new strains of influenza kill literally thousands of people, and they're normally imported strains.

This is why it is in everyone's best interest to cure the disease at source, in Africa, BEFORE it goes global. MDR-TB started in Africa and has spread globally in a matter of years because people adopted the same, "Someone else's problem" attitude you're espousing here.

When will people wake up and realise that we're now a global civilisation, and what happens in Africa affects us all sooner or later? If not from a sense of moral obligation then at least from a sense of self-preservation. Is Africa really asking for so much? A couple of tons of drugs that would probably cost less than $1 000 000 to make... that's less than what the U.S. government spends on a single drone to kill people in far away countries.

Turbotsat - you're preaching to the choir. It"s ME is the one who's denying that aerosolization is a contagion vector.

Kapuna - not quite. They could have gone to Germany, but have been sitting in the seat next to someone who went to Egypt 3 weeks ago. They have a nice two week holiday in Germany then come back to Japan (still in the incubation period and showing no symptoms. A week later they're in hospital vomiting blood and they're come into contact with 100 people.

Just simply stop all travel to or from those countries.

It's doubtful that Ebola HF could spread like a wildfire throughout Japan this year, however, in the years ahead with increased temperatures due to global warming, who knows?

There is no medicine to cure in any countries because they have not made medicine against Ebola.

Correct. But I guarantee you, you'd be given antibiotics by a Japanese doctor regardless.

It's ME - one source? For a decent overview I'd suggest this website: http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/lab-bio/res/psds-ftss/ebola-eng.php

As for WHO, they're not a medical organization, they're a political organization. As a result the information they release is often downplayed or hyped up depending on the political agenda. I don't trust a thing they publish.

It's ME - it's a little thing called "honesty" and "scientific caution". There's evidence for every single one of those claims.

As for your confidence that the same precautions for H1N1 will be effective against Ebola. Firstly, they weren't. H1N1 got into Japan. Secondly, H1N1 was far less infectious than Ebola is. Thirdly, the consequences of Ebola are far more severe.

The Vox article specifically states that aerosolization IS a plausible risk. What it is debuking is the idea that the virus can travel very far like this. It certainly couldn't travel miles or even dozens of meters. However a bit of saliva or blood-impregnated mucus could definitely do the trick. How close are you to the person next to you in the Tokyo subways? 30cm? 50cm? Close enough to smell their breath? Then your close enough to get Ebola if they cough.

And in toilets there is a high degree of vaporization, especially at urinals. All in all vaporization is a plausible risk factor in crowded areas like big cities.

The article just confirms my point. Thank you.

Fundamentally Ebola is not spread via airborne infection

Technically true... but then neither is influenza "fundamentally". Instead the virus is aerosolized during coughing and sneezing. It has also been shown to survive for up to 60 days outside the human host. Oh, and it can be sexually transmitted.

This means that public toilets are a risk vector, as are any area where large numbers of people collect... like the Tokyo subway... a few sneezes and... BOOM!

A staff member at the Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare tells the newspaper, “Considering that Ebola HF is only transmitted through direct contact with the affected person’s bodily fluids, it’s unlikely that it would spread.”

... and this is just plain old-fashioned misinformation designed to make the public think everything is just fine.

If there's Ebola in Japan then wear a mask. No, I'm not kidding. Facial touching (e.g. touching something with the virus on it then touching your eye/nose/mouth before washing your hands) is a major infection vector. A mask won't stop you inhaling the virus, but it does help stop facial touching. This is why masks do help, not because they filter the air, but because they stop people from literally placing the virus inside their nose or mouth where it can enter more easily.

Wash your hands regularly... and avoid crowded areas like... umm... pretty much any major city.

It's ME - if you could please specify which part of my post precisely you think is misinformation then I will post links to reliable medical sources to back it up.

Until then please realise that posts simply saying, "You're wrong" with no specifics are extremely unhelpful in actually resolving the difference of opinion.

I have medical sources to back up everything I claimed. I would say you are the one who is in error, but your post has no substance so I have no idea what your position or objections are.

It's ME - so it is your opinion that a disclaimer saying basically "please cross-check our information" is somehow LESS trustworthy than WHO's "trust us, everything important is summarized here in easy English, despite virology requiring doctors about 6 months to get the basics".

Personally I trust people more who say, "Please double-check what I claimed". And if you read the site you'll see it backs up my claims.

One thing's for sure; if someone does arrive in Japan with Ebola, Japanese doctors and hospitals will be of absolutely zero help whatsoever! Still prescribing antibiotics for cold viruses here...!

shrug fine. Don't believe me. Like I care.

But before you write my opinion off completely please consider that this is a hemorrhagic disease. That means that when they sneeze (even before the start showing major symptoms) there is some blood contained in that sneeze. If it makes contact with the eye or nose if another person that can be sufficient. It only requires 1-10 active virus cells tor a chance of infection. Likewise in public toilets fecal matter with blood in it is commonplace.

When the patient hits the late stages of the disease they are bleeding from almost everywhere and anything they touched is highly contagious. That's why doctors wearing protective gear are getting infected, because even 10 cells of this virus is enough to kill you.

I am not overstating the risks. If anything I am low-balling them.

Oh, and It's ME if you can't actually point out something specific as incorrect then I would suggest that you really don't know enough about the topic to be correcting people.

It's ME - no, you asked me for all my sources. I don't have the time or inclination to sit here typing out the names of dozens of textbooks that you probably don't own.

I asked you to identify a specific objection so I could cite a specific source. You didn't.