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prostitutes have called themselves geisha’s to bring in more customers, but you will notice a distinct difference, and that is their attire. Both girls wear kimono, and over their kimono is an obi (or sash). Geisha’s tie their obi in the back, and prostitutes tie it in the front. One simple reason for this, you can’t tie it yourself if its in the back, and if you’re a prostitute, your going to need to tie it and untie it throughout the day. The prostitutes often went by the name ‘Geisha girls,’ or ‘panpan girls,’ and they often serviced American military. Geisha DO NOT engage in paid sex with clients.

get your facts right, editor.

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If its Kyoto, they are called geiko, not geisha.

Which is exactly what the author made clear in the second paragraph.

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prostitutes have called themselves geisha’s to bring in more customers, but you will notice a distinct difference, and that is their attire. Both girls wear kimono, and over their kimono is an obi (or sash). Geisha’s tie their obi in the back, and prostitutes tie it in the front. One simple reason for this, you can’t tie it yourself if its in the back, and if you’re a prostitute, your going to need to tie it and untie it throughout the day. The prostitutes often went by the name ‘Geisha girls,’ or ‘panpan girls,’ and they often serviced American military. Geisha DO NOT engage in paid sex with clients. get your facts right, editor.

You might want to stop reading Wikipedia and/or Memoirs of a Geisha before you comment on getting facts right. Let's break this down:

-Yes, many prostitutes in post WWII Japan called themselves "geisha" because it was one of the only words that the English speaking world knew of Japan (they couldn't go around calling themselves samurai). This confused the hell out of them (and the West) for a very long time, and MoaG really didn't help.

-No modern prostitutes wear kimono, let alone follow the old rules. Yes, prostitutes used to tie their obi in the front, not because they couldn't tie it in the back, but because wives and married women of the day tied theirs in the front too. A prostitute was a "wife for the night" and geisha were revolutionary when they began tying their obi in the back. That shift in fashion, a clear sign to show that a geisha was not a prostitute even though they worked in the same licensed quarters, is one of the reasons why the fashion of geisha dictated how the fashion of kimono evolved into what it is today.

-Everyone wears kimono with their obi tied on their back. I'm not sure where you got the idea that no one can tie their own obi, let alone behind them, but that is incredibly false. I can tie mine just fine without a mirror too. It takes practice, but anyone can learn to tie their own obi.

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But sometimes they just crave fried potatoes,” she smiled. “When they do, we have to put on a pair of jeans and go and buy them some, and let them eat at home in secret.”

Someone should tell them that McDonald's delivers!

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“Geishas in Kyoto were once daughters of samurai warriors,” said Kikumaru.

Demonstrably false.

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If its Kyoto, they are called geiko, not geisha.

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I love the patterns in the cloth.

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just because they dont provide sex, does not mean much. they are groomed to serve and entertain wealthy men, for money and that is what it is. mizu shobai is mizu shobai regardless how it is painted or dressed.

What's the point you're trying to make?

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what basically a sex business.

Ahh, so in other words you don't actually have any clue about what you are talking about.

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Behind the facade of makeup and clothing they are the same as the rest of us.

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So that geisha with the velcro obi wasn't really a geisha?

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First, geiko do provide sex. Its just not quid pro qo.

That's what maiko are for.

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It has been a while ago, but I lived in front of Gion Kaburenjo's school entrance for 4 months and had the opportunity to spend regular time with maiko and geiko during training and entertaining guests. The article above is very poorly researched. First, at the time, the average age of Gion geiko was over 60, many were in their 70's and 80's, the oldest was 93. I can say from that experience, that including the much younger maiko, it was a rather celibate environment, for above and many other reasons. Second, a majority of customers were not politicians and business man, but Buddhist monks from the diverse temples of Kyoto. They have the money to spend for this kind of entertainment. For further and detailed information, the book of Liz Dalby, an American anthropologist who worked herself as a maiko in Pontocho is highly recommended.

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Love the folks who comment without reading.

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Someone should tell them that McDonald's delivers!

Yeah, that's not how it works. Idk if they deliver in Japan (in some countries they don't) but even if they did, everyone would then know about one particular okiya (geiko house) ordering junk food... that wouldn't solve the problem at all.

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It used to be dangerous to walk outside as people carried swords (so) men walked in front to protect the women from getting slashed—it’s very chivalrous!”

Where is it written that a person with a sword can attack from the front only?

Not chivalry, straightforward oppression.

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"Dude look like a lady..."

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just because they dont provide sex, does not mean much. they are groomed to serve and entertain wealthy men, for money and that is what it is. mizu shobai is mizu shobai regardless how it is painted or dressed.

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women pleasing men for money ? whats to have a clue about

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Strangerland my point is that the article is poor and seems weird excuse and a try to romanticize what basically a sex business.

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