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countries cannot ultimately redefine marriage

Of course they can, Rolf. Countries redefine things all the time. History is all about redefining things once we realise the defnitions are wrong or incomplete.

Nature and reason inform us that marriages are the long-term unions of a complementary pair, a man and a woman.

Neither nature nor reason informs us that. Homosexuality is common in nature, and there is no valid reason that people cannot marry simply because they share common genitalia.

This pairing is the beginning of a family that may later produce children. So...marriage begins a family.

My mother and step-father have been married for 25 years. They never had kids. In fact, there are countless marriages that produce no kids. This seems like something you made up, rather than something that is based in reality.

Families are the building blocks of society. Families and marriage are, therefore, logically prior to society.

Agreed, which is why it's ridiculous for governments to prevent people from marrying.

countries cannot ultimately redefine marriage

Yes they can. The legal definition of marriage (which is the only part governments have a say in) is created by governments, and they can definitely change it. Hence you have multiple countries in the world that respect humans' right to marry.

Nature and reason inform us that marriages are the long-term unions of a complementary pair,

Y'know, nature is not restricted to pairs - a lot of nature are about polygamy and harems too, and sometimes incest even

So you'd be the first in line to follow nature then? Lol

Be careful about just blindly following nature

According to Rolf, old people can't get married because they cannot start a family. Too bad. I'm totally gay and my lover of 25 years and I would like to get married, but considering the mess straights have made of marriage, I sometimes wonder.

Pity Rolf, he has a very narrow imagination.

There's nothing new about same sex relationships---why is so much fuss being made. Such relationshops are nobody's business but those involved---why shout it from the rooftops?

I feel that way about all relationships.

Such relationshops are nobody's business but those involved---why shout it from the rooftops?

It's not relationships that are the issue, it's the fact that same sex couples don't have the same rights as different sex couples. Any inequality like this should be highlighted in anyway possible, especially when there are people like Rolf with his attitudes making it his business.