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What’s the minimum amount of money Japanese women want their husbands to earn? Survey investigates

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By Casey Baseel, SoraNews24

When a couple gets married, they intertwine not only their hearts, but their finances too. Since the concept that a man should still be able to act as sole breadwinner for the household hasn’t completely faded away in Japan, many Japanese women have earning expectations for their future husbands, and a recent survey asked just how high they are.

Japanese women’s interest internet portal OK Girl recently announced the “results” of an online poll asking women “What’s the minimum amount you want your spouse to earn annually?” While the poll is still open for voting, the responses so far, from 840 participants, show some clear preferences.

The largest group, 30.3 percent of women, said that they’d need their husband to be at least in the 4-4.99 million-yen earning bracket. They were followed by the 24.3 percent with slightly higher economic standards who want their husband to be making 5-5.99 million yen. Rounding out the top three was 3-3.99 million yen, voted for by 15.4 percent of respondents.

Altogether, that makes for 70 percent of women hoping for their spouse to be getting paid somewhere in the 3-5.99 million yen range. While that wouldn’t allow for a lavish lifestyle, it’s enough for a middle-class home and hobbies, and with proper budgeting, you could even start a family with that kind of income.

As for the remaining survey participants, their expectations were:

● 6-6.99 million yen: 9.6 percent of respondents

● 7-7.99 million yen: 7 percent

● Over 10 million yen: 5.8 percent

● 8-8.99 million yen: 3.5 percent

● 2-2.99 million yen: 2 percent

● 0-1.99 million yen 1.4 percent

● 9-9.99 million yen: 0.7 percent

It’s interesting to see that while both are well above the median income in Japan, “over 10 million yen” was a far more popular aspiration than the 9-9.99 million bracket, perhaps of the allure of the extra digit 10,000,000 boasts. That said, the top-voted comment among respondents on the poll’s website is “If I’m in love with them, just as long as my spouse has some sort of income, that’s fine. As long as they can earn enough to pay the rent, I’ll earn whatever else we need,” showing that not everyone’s eyes have to turn to dollar signs/yen marks before they turn into hearts.

Sources: OK GirlPR Times via IT Media

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Why don’t these gold diggers lazy women work to earn their own money instead of relying on hardworking Japanese men...shame on them! Most foreign women are so hardworking and independent. Japanese women are good for whining, gossiping and wasting husbands hard earned money on cosmetics and fashion. Not all but the average number is so much higher for these women in Japan in comparison to other countries.

9 ( +22 / -13 )

The best choice is an older salaryman, assigned far away, who will die soon, but pays for spas, restaurants, and travel. Oh what am I saying? It’s all about love...

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MikeHToday 08:03 am JST

Why don’t these gold diggers lazy women work to earn their own money instead of relying on hardworking Japanese men...shame on them! Most foreign women are so hardworking and independent. Japanese women are good for whining, gossiping and wasting husbands hard earned money on cosmetics and fashion. Not all but the average number is so much higher for these women in Japan in comparison to other countries.

Probably because women have little chance of being on the career track themselves due to the rampant misogyny in society that holds women back. Abe couldn't even reach the meager goal he set to have more women in management positions. Several medical universities were found to have sabotaged women to prevent them from passing entrance exams, and that's just the tip of the iceburg. Maternity harassment is a thing, and sexual harassment is rampant. Now ask youself that question one more time, and consider a different answer.

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Why don’t these gold diggers lazy women work to earn their own money instead of relying on hardworking Japanese men...shame on them! 

Maybe its due to the structural sexism in corporate Japan which deliberately relegates females to low wage career paths with little room for advancement while reserving the executive track to males? And the way the bifurcation of the workforce into regular and non regular employees has also shunted most females into the latter, which pays little and offers no job security?

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The largest group, 30.3 percent of women, said that they’d need their husband to be at least in the 4-4.99 million-yen earning bracket.

This is good news and a reasonable aspiration for foreign English teachers who have private lessons and do some translation work. On the whole, however, I find the basic premise sexist that men are chosen as partners based on their income.

9 ( +9 / -0 )

i think is fair and reasonable. 4 million year annually equal to approximately

us 38,000 which is approximately us 3,100 per month. could be less after taxes.

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MikeHToday 08:03 am JST

Why don’t these gold diggers lazy women work to earn their own money instead of relying on hardworking Japanese men...shame on them! Most foreign women are so hardworking and independent. Japanese women are good for whining, gossiping and wasting husbands hard earned money on cosmetics and fashion. Not all but the average number is so much higher for these women in Japan in comparison to other countries.

Mike, what are you talking about? My wife is a stay-at-home mother and she works very hard and her work is extremely important for our children and me. Although she could work, we are lucky to be in a position where she does not need to, so she can stay at home and bond and teach our children. Perhaps you would prefer your wife to have an awful life where she has no connection with her family and her community? It is well known that children do better if they can hang out with their mother in early life...In my experience, most Japanese women and mothers do not conform to the narrow stereotype you described.

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RecklessToday 10:03 am JST

The largest group, 30.3 percent of women, said that they’d need their husband to be at least in the 4-4.99 million-yen earning bracket.

This is good news and a reasonable aspiration for foreign English teachers who have private lessons and do some translation work. On the whole, however, I find the basic premise sexist that men are chosen as partners based on their income.

a) Hello? Yes, sexism (and expected gender roles) is a huge problem in Japan and b) if you are here teaching English in Japan, you should probably be thinking about where you went wrong in life. Moreover, if you are a foreigner here, you probably have a 'foreigner advantage' with regards to mate choice so a potential partner might be willing to accept a lower annual salary if you are an English teacher...

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I doubt it has anything to do with female earning potential or job opportunities in the modern economy. Women simply want a 'high quality' man, and in this case money is being used as a proxy for quality (ie. intelligence, productivity, and social status). Since the dawn of time women have wanted a man who can provide as many resources as possible to raise her children and her social standing amongst other women. Today women gauge a man by money, yesterday it was how much mammoth meat he could hunt or how many coconuts he could collect. Frankly, I'm surprised more women didn't answer ¥10 million+.

Men also have their own set of standards for assessing women (weight, appearance, youth) which may seem selfish and arbitrary at first glance, but make sense from an evolutionary biological perspective. Eventually most people realise their own value and settle for the highest quality partner they're likely to get.

1 ( +4 / -3 )

sure the wife has to work as well based on 4-4.99 million annually, rent and food so expensive in japan.

2 ( +3 / -1 )

This is good news and a reasonable aspiration for foreign English teachers who have private lessons and do some translation work. On the whole, however, I find the basic premise sexist that men are chosen as partners based on their income.

You better hope that your wife works too, because if she doesn't, there is a good chance she is going to want to be in control of the money. That means she'll give you an allowance of say 20,000 Yen per month give or take. Once the kiddos arrive, she won't have time to work (if she does) and you won't have much time for the kiddos if you are working so much. My advice is find a woman with a GOOD job and never give her control of ALL the money. Stay away from women that are close to their mothers too. You'll find that she'll take her mother's (or even father's) advice over yours about EVERYTHING, but especially money. If she has some experience overseas, living in a foreign country, thats good too.

3 ( +3 / -0 )

Well, it's no wonder I'm divorced...but the house is paid off (right after she left) and I have bought a new car two years ago..."Later".

6 ( +6 / -0 )

If there are no kids , she better be holding down a good-paying job herself.

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I am fine with the ladies looking for a guy with POTENTIAL.....but DAMN that is 81.2% of women want 4+million....50.9% at 5+million for STARTERS......

Seems the ladies want start at or near the finish line rather than building things up over time.

To be sure there are a lot of problems\issues with women working in Japan but their expectations for marriage are NUTS!! No wonder so many guys just say to hell with the idea of marriage.

Just more evidence that Japans birth rate will likely continue downwards, carry on

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To be sure there are a lot of problems\issues with women working in Japan but their expectations for marriage are NUTS!! No wonder so many guys just say to hell with the idea of marriage.

I totally agree. The economy has changed drastically. Men no longer have a good chance at a permanent job with seniority based raises that will support a family of 4. Both men and women in Japan have to rethink the purpose and roles of marriage. I have been stonewalled in trying to encourage my wife to work and she is absolutely against it. At some point you have to throw in the towel.

4 ( +4 / -0 )

Biggest turnoff of a woman for any man. No matter how much money he has.

7 ( +7 / -0 )

Both me and my Japanese wife work full time, while raising three kids (they are still small). It is possible, even in Japan. Actually it is becoming more and more common.

6 ( +6 / -0 )

Call me old-fashioned but I've always thought that if a man's wife has to work out of necessity that man has failed as a provider. It is proven that kids that grow up in a household with a stay-at-home mum grow more attached to their family thus strengthening their bond. The women that answered the survey are looking for financial stability and that's a great thing, I have daughters and the last thing I would want for them is that they ended up with a man who can't provide for his family. Work for career advancement that's perfectly okay.

-7 ( +1 / -8 )

Probably because women have little chance of being on the career track themselves due to the rampant misogyny in society that holds women back. 

Tell that to the young women who just want to have kids and watch TV while their husband works himself to death for them... I know they exist, about half of the female students openly profess that this is their goal in life. I suspect more do too but are quiet about it. Should I tell them they are wrong?

They don't care about changing that and will continue to vote the LDP in to keep it going, as they have done for almost 70 years. In fact, even my ex confirmed this to me when she told me how she hears from her friends that they hate men but want to become a housewife. Never fight for equality, it's always get a man to provide for them.

You have to look at attitudes in both sexes to see how men logically support equality in the workplace more than women:

https://japantoday.com/category/national/1-in-3-japanese-women-want-to-be-housewives-poll

Only ~20% of men want a housewife, but ~33% of women want to be one. Why would 80% of men want their wife to be discriminated against?

(Answer: they don't)

Also, women requiring men to provide for them is common across the whole of humanity... in places with 'gender equality':

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0956797620904154

I am amazed by how feminists just ignore the quite large proportion of women who don't fit their mould

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 am fine with the ladies looking for a guy with POTENTIAL.....but DAMN that is 81.2% of women want 4+million....50.9% at 5+million for STARTERS......

Presumably this isn’t the wage they are expecting men to start out at, but rather the wage they would want at the time they get married.

The average age of marriage for Japanese men is 31 years old, so they would be almost a decade out of university by then (or trade school, etc) and fairly well into their careers, so a salary of 4-5 million Yen is actually not that high an expectation.

Its also pretty much the bare minimum you would need to support even a single child, let alone two.

3 ( +4 / -1 )

Very wise survey

0 ( +0 / -0 )

The amounts mentioned by the majority of women seem on the low side, telling me that they are willing to forgive a lot in a man. Thus, the conclusion that most Japanese women are money-hungry seems unjustified. Seems to me that it would be hard to get by anywhere in the industrialized world on just 5 million yen a year, if one is trying to support a family.

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what if guy’s started this and marrying only girls who make that much money..... there’s always difference in male and female... male are forced to be strong when they have same heart men are not supposed to cry because they are strong.. we do have same hearts emotions feelings sometimes we want to cry too

4 ( +4 / -0 )

 am fine with the ladies looking for a guy with POTENTIAL.....but DAMN that is 81.2% of women want 4+million....50.9% at 5+million for STARTERS......

Presumably this isn’t the wage they are expecting men to start out at, but rather the wage they would want at the time they get married.

Rainyday

So then YES, when they want to get married they want a guy making SERIOUS COIN, THAT is starting at\near the finishing line!!! Women DONT want to BUILD up their marriage, they want the guy to have THAT done BEFORE they marry, messed up!

1 ( +2 / -1 )

The amounts seem a bit lower than in surveys I've seen in the past by other sources. Maybe "OK Girl" has a young readership compared to the other surveys. Women in their twenties have lower expectations of men the same age than women in their thirties. The article has bracketed 70% as 3 to 6 million, but the same figures show 50% of women want a man on 5 million or above. That rules out almost every man under 30. A town hall worker in inaka may be below 5 million yen a year at 40.

Here are some examples of other surveys with higher amounts, or at least fewer women who say 3 million is okay.

https://heikinnenshu.jp/tokushu/kekkon.html

https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000246.000006585.html

https://career-picks.com/average-salary/kekkon-nensyu

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So then YES, when they want to get married they want a guy making SERIOUS COIN, THAT is starting at\near the finishing line!!! Women DONT want to BUILD up their marriage, they want the guy to have THAT done BEFORE they marry, messed up!

But the average salary in Japan is a little over 4 million Yen, which is in the same basic range most are looking for according to the survey. I don’t really see what is messed up about that.

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In My case My wife always says......Honey you need to earn more money and She says it’s never enough! Hence, I told her to Work and now She makes more money than me!

The best thing that ever happened was my wife finding a good job! Besides I don’t really like to work to hard anyways! “ Happy Wife Happy Life”

I’ m pushing her to take the Top Management position in Hopes I can focus more on My Martial Arts and Surfing! I love my Wife and Life. She’ close to perfect.

3 ( +4 / -1 )

indubitably I am!

pmsl

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@MikeHAug. 19  08:03 am JST

I'm curious, are you speaking from experience? If so, you need to pick your women more wisely, as my 11 years of being happily married to a Japanese lady has been nothing like that.

-1 ( +0 / -1 )

5 million yen is less than 50,000 dollars. It would be difficult to support a family with that much money in any major city here in the States. Is it cheaper to live in Japan?

0 ( +0 / -0 )

On the whole, however, I find the basic premise sexist that men are chosen as partners based on their income.

Above else, it's just lame. Why I am I supposed to respect anyone's supposedly romantic relationship, if in reality, that relationship is nothing but an unofficial business contract?

0 ( +0 / -0 )

Seems to me that it would be hard to get by anywhere in the industrialized world on just 5 million yen a year, if one is trying to support a family.

In such case, it's really sad to hear that people are so spoiled.

0 ( +0 / -0 )

Why don’t these gold diggers lazy women work to earn their own money instead of relying on hardworking Japanese men...shame on them!

I don't think you understand that just as men feel attracted and desirous of women for their physical attributes, women find men attractive and desirable for evidence of their financial wealth and stability. None of us can help what turns us on. It just does. We are wired for it. Its evolutionary. Its sub-conscious. And everyone needs to learn to accept and deal with it.

A female bird does not pull out a measuring tape and jot down statistics on a nest built by a male to judge it. The judgement is in her heart and she will most likely choose a well built nest just because it turns her on. If a female bird chose a bad nest to be seen as "not a gold digger" her eggs would fall out and her genes die with them.

And so, no woman is wrong to want a man that earns the cash while she takes care of the house and raises the kids. Its a fair arrangement attractive to both. So would be her getting the cash while he takes care of the house and raises the kids, but that arrangement is generally a turn off for both sexes. Its just a fact of life that is, even if it is unfortunate.

Where it gets ugly is where women want jewels and closets full of clothes they wear once. Or when men turn their back on the family for a mistress.

0 ( +0 / -0 )

What’s the minimum amount of money Japanese home men want their Wives to earn? Survey investigates more or less?

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