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After year of disruption, America set to choose a path ahead

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By JULIE PACE

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November 3rd is election day in the United States of America (U.S./USA) and the next President of the United States of America (POTUS) will be elected and will be sworn in on January 20th.

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Even in Australia there's a palpable tension about this election. Well, in my part of it, anyway.

I'll be watching the live coverage tomorrow (my time) and cheering on the Dems.

Make America Sane Again.

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A VERY disturbing picture here. Look at the big ugly dictayorial Big Brother face on the video screen. It's Orwellian. Venezuela has billboards like this with Chaz's face on it. It's totalitarian.

It's a personality cult. As a veteran who once defended our Constitution I don't like this scene at all. It's horrifying and disgusting. I'd never thought I'd see this in my own nation. I HATE THIS!!!

DOWN WITH 'BIG BROTHER'.

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I want to congratulate the author, Julie Pace, on a fairly balanced opinion article that is not full of all the lies and deceit going on in the main stream media in the USA which is completely off the rails in both camps.

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A VERY disturbing picture here. Look at the big ugly dictayorial Big Brother face on the video screen. It's Orwellian. Venezuela

Venezuela, speaking of radical socialism (that the Dems want to implement) no one wants to see the face of Biden once again. He and the other guy had 8 years to fix a lot of these problems and nothing, they just worsened under those two....

Now the Democrats hate democracy and they are pushing for a one party rule, how dictatorial.

It's a personality cult. As a veteran who once defended our Constitution 

But the Dems want to burn it up, that’s the scary part of all of this

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Venezuela, speaking of radical socialism (that the Dems want to implement) no one wants to see the face of Biden once again. He and the other guy had 8 years to fix a lot of these problems and nothing, they just worsened under those two....

Now the Democrats hate democracy and they are pushing for a one party rule, how dictatorial.

But the Dems want to burn it up, that’s the scary part of all of thiS.

None of this is accurate in the least. You cannot link to one credible piece of evidence to support these asinine assertions.

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As a veteran who once defended our Constitution

I appreciate your service. Those of us that actually served our country by putting on a uniform understand what’s at risk, unlike those of us who claim to have served our country in a capacity that did not require them to put their butts in the line of danger.

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Trump is a cult and all about Trump.

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May the least awful candidate win!

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What if Trump does win but the democrats take the House and Senate?

The White House is boarded up too!

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May the least awful candidate win!

Sadly, this is exactly where US politics stand.

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'That was the case for Tom Redford, 79, who cast his ballot for Trump on Thursday outside of Richmond, Virginia. Redford said he's the only Trump supporter in his family and doesn't much like the president personally.'

Well, doesn't really matter if out of his family members (let's say it's 3 or 4 people), he is the only one who votes for Trump when the other 2 or 3 vote for Biden. That's still a Biden win of 66% or 75%!

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A 99 year-old black guy born on a plantation cast his vote today for Biden.

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If you go by the pollsters which liberals desperately cling on and they might see a repeat of 2016; what the polls fail to show time after time, after time is that they usually always favor and sample more Registered Democrats overwhelmingly, not to mention many Trump voters don’t want to admit, fight or get into arguments with people about voting for Trump so they stay quiet and just go to the polling station and mark Trump and it’s done. Don’t know what the results will be tomorrow, but it definitely won’t be the way the Dems and most pollsters predict, so we shall see.

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By any international standards Biden is not far left, he is not even left. At most Sanders would be center.

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Biden is not far left, he is not even left. At most Sanders would be center.

Biden is nowhere near anything center. He is a more traditional Democrat, but if he were center he would embrace a lot of conservative policies, he is not a Joe Liebermann who was center and Sanders is 100% a self-admitted and unapologetic socialist. Would never vote for either of them or their whacked failed policies, but I do respect Sanders in his straightforwardness in admitting what a lot of Dems won’t.

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Don’t know what the results will be tomorrow, but it definitely won’t be the way the Dems and most pollsters predict, so we shall see.

Impressive contradicting yourself in a single sentence.

Biden is nowhere near anything center. He is a more traditional Democrat, but if he were center he would embrace a lot of conservative policies, he is not a Joe Liebermann who was center and Sanders is 100% a self-admitted and unapologetic socialist. Would never vote for either of them or their whacked failed policies, but I do respect Sanders in his straightforwardness in admitting what a lot of Dems won’t.

Yeah! Biden is sooooo far left that he’s palatable to a lot of republicans. That’s extreme left no matter how it’s spun.

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If you go by the pollsters which liberals desperately cling on and they might see a repeat of 2016; what the polls fail to show time after time, after time is that they usually always favor and sample more Registered Democrats overwhelmingly

Not time after time.

The pollsters got it pretty much right in 2008 and 2012 when Obama thrashed McCain and Romney respectively. I remember it well. I won money in 2012.

They were pretty close on the results of the 2018 mid-terms too.

They might get it wrong again, but your comment is not grounded in fact.

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The pollsters got it correct in 2016 given they were predicting who would win the popular vote. Where they went wrong is assuming the popular vote winner would also win the EC.

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Impressive contradicting yourself

I didn’t, I don’t know what the results are going to be, but I do think Trump has it in the bag and the fact that he is making his coalition bigger and bringing more blacks and Hispanics is making a lot of Democrats nervous, I could be wrong, but I don’t think so.

Not time after time. 

The pollsters got it pretty much right in 2008 and 2012 

No, they did not, Most of the posters got it wrong and back in 2016 most and gave trump about a 13% chance and even Fox predicted wrong, so we don’t know we could see a repeat again

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This:

it definitely won’t be the way the Dems and most pollsters predict, so we shall see.*

directly contradicts this:

Don’t know what the results will be tomorrow.

You cannot simultaneously not know what will happen and know what will happen.

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Not time after time. 

The pollsters got it pretty much right in 2008 and 2012 

No, they did not

Yes, they did.

I gambled on both elections after watching the poll averages very, very closely, particularly in 2012 when my bet was quite large. I don’t bet big without study. My bet was largely based on polls.

Again, your post has no basis in fact.

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You cannot simultaneously not know what will happen and know what will happen.

No, they I’m just estimating, no contradictions, no worries (for myself at least) just looking at what people are not saying as far as Trump voters and listening to a lot of more concerned liberals like Axelrod and Brazille and Moore.

Yes, they did. 

No, not while looking at the overall predictions as where the race was supposed led to believe.

I gambled on both elections after watching the poll averages very, very closely, particularly in 2012

Let’s stick with 2016 where we do see another pattern happening with the msm....again

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Yes, they did. 

No, not while looking at the overall predictions as where the race was supposed led to believe.

Bass, just have the good grace to accept that the polls were pretty close in 2008, 2012 and 2018 after you said they weren’t.

There is no need to paint yourself into a corner here.

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just have the good grace to accept that the polls were pretty close in 2008, 2012

I wasn’t talking about ‘08 and 12 so I really don’t know why you keep bringing it up.

There is no need to paint yourself into a corner here.

Oh, I’m not worried, I just said that the polls were all wrong in 2016 and so many acknowledged it and I feel the pollsters are going to make the same mistake with the exception the Dems allowed early mail voting so....but the good thing is, some States will allow you to change your votes and after Biden’s fracking comments, I think that’s going to be a sure bet.

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“I learned a lot from Richard Nixon,” President Trump declared.

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@Bass

I posted:

Not time after time. 

The pollsters got it pretty much right in 2008 and 2012 

You posted in reply:

No, they did not

This is demonstrably false. Why do you continually do this? It’s bizarre.

My point is the polls were pretty close in 2008, 2012 and 2018. They are not always unreliable.

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This is demonstrably false.

No, you keep talking about 2008-2012 I’m not talking about that. Relax.

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@starpunk - I disagree with your take on the situation, just because you once served doesn't mean what you say is true. I have over 2 decades of military service with insights and experience from around the world and I see the situation totally opposite from you. President Trump is the best thing that has happened to the US in a long long time.

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Biden is nowhere near anything center.

By the standards of US politics when I first started voting in the 1970s Joe Biden is right wing. By modern Republican standards Richard Nixon and even Ronald Reagan were RINOs.  Nixon even pushed for a negative income tax for two years before giving up in frustration. Dwight Eisenhower used the Army to desegregate public schools. Today none of that would be even remotely possible. In my life the whole of US politics and society has become much more conservative and religions have become swaggeringly assertive. Calling someone like Joe Biden a leftist is laughable nonsense. Same for Kamala Harris. None of the bills she supported in California or in the US Senate were even a little bit radical. Not one. The left walks on eggshells in the US fearing right wing violence and their views being distorted by the right wing media and people like you.

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@starpunk - I disagree with your take on the situation, just because you once served doesn't mean what you say is true. I have over 2 decades of military service with insights and experience from around the world and I see the situation totally opposite from you. President Trump is the best thing that has happened to the US in a long long time.

I have as much time with the military as you and in my opinion Donald Trump is a great national disgrace who has done grave damage to this nation economically and militarily. He doesn't have an ounce of respect for any of us. I wlll always hate him with a passion for abandoning the Kurds. He has walked away from multiple treaties we signed, calls our allies adversaries when we need our allies united behind us to stand up to China. Without allies we are weak. But allies need leadership and that has been terrifyingly missing from this President. Abandoning treaties and especially abandoning a good reliable ally in the middle of a war makes other nations distrust us. We complain about the CCP abandoning their commitment to Hong Kong when we should instead look in the mirror and see our own leader's duplicity. You are apparently blind to the damage Donald Trump has done. The worst sin to me is this administration has abandoned any shred of moral authority the nation had. There is no moral high ground any more in the US. Donald Trump has debased us all and dragged us through the gutter with him. I don't know about you but I'm sick of doing the back stroke down the gutter with the Trump followers.

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Biden is nowhere near anything center.

The right has gone so far right, that to them, when they look as faaaaaar left as they can, they can only see the center. So they see Biden, and they think he's a radical leftist.

As a left-of-centrist, I can most definitely say Biden is right of center. The US hasn't had a true leftist leader in at least 50 years.

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Trump just said on TV, "it's very difficult to lose, especially for me!"

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Those closet/stealth Trump voters.

Latest polls...Humm....However, no margin of error.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

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Trump just said on TV, "it's very difficult to lose, especially for me!"

Hillary told Biden not to concede no matter what. Either way, both sides are dug in.

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It wouldn't be much of a victory for Mr. Trump if both houses of Congress have solid Democratic majorities.

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Trump has already declared victory, and called for vote counting to be stopped in the states where he is leading. Hoping and praying that we will see the last of him soon.

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bass4funkNov. 3  04:12 pm JST

A VERY disturbing picture here. Look at the big ugly dictayorial Big Brother face on the video screen. It's Orwellian. Venezuela

Venezuela, speaking of radical socialism (that the Dems want to implement) no one wants to see the face of Biden once again. He and the other guy had 8 years to fix a lot of these problems and nothing, they just worsened under those two....

Now the Democrats hate democracy and they are pushing for a one party rule, how dictatorial.

This ain't about radical socialism or 'Bolivarism' (BS) as Chaz called it. It's about fascism, which Trump is about.

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You are apparently blind to the damage Donald Trump has done. The worst sin to me is this administration has abandoned any shred of moral authority the nation had. There is no moral high ground any more in the US. Donald Trump has debased us all and dragged us through the gutter with him. I don't know about you but I'm sick of doing the back stroke down the gutter with the Trump followers.

Notice too that he has alienated NATO, said it was obsolete and he keeps on kissing Russian fanny. And Russia pays Taliban soldiers bounties on American GIs and Traitor Trump said ZILCH. Then he creates a 'war' against Hispanics - an 'enemy' that doesn't exist (as an enemy).

Hitler vs. Jews

Milosevic vs. Muslims

Trump vs. Hispanics

Act like a fascist, talk like a fascist, ARE.

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