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Putin draws nuclear red line for the West

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By Mark Trevelyan and Andrew Osborn
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FILE PHOTO: A Russian Yars intercontinental ballistic missile system drives past an honour guard during a military parade on Victory Day, which marks the 77th anniversary of the victory over Nazi Germany in World War Two, in Red Square in central Moscow, Russia May 9, 2022. REUTERS/Maxim Shemetov/File Photo Image: Reuters/Maxim Shemetov

Russian President Vladimir Putin has drawn a "red line" for the United States and its allies by signaling that Moscow will consider responding with nuclear weapons if they allow Ukraine to strike deep inside Russia with long-range Western missiles.

But some in the West are asking: does he actually mean it?

The question is critical to the course of the war. If Putin is bluffing, as Ukraine and some of its supporters believe, then the West may feel ready to deepen its military support for Kyiv regardless of Moscow's threats.

If he is serious, there is a risk - repeatedly stated by Moscow and acknowledged by Washington - that the conflict could turn into World War III.

In the latest in a long series of warning signals, Putin on Wednesday extended the list of scenarios that could lead to Russia using nuclear weapons.

It could do this, he said, in response to a major cross-analysis-order conventional attack involving aircraft, missiles or drones. A rival nuclear power that supported a country attacking Russia would be considered a party to that attack.

Both those criteria apply directly to the situation that would arise if the West allows Ukraine to strike deep inside Russian territory with Western long-range missiles such as U.S. ATACMS and British Storm Shadows, something Putin has said would need Western satellite and targeting support.

"It was a very clear message: 'Don't make a mistake - all these kind of things may mean nuclear war,'" said Nikolai Sokov, a former Soviet and Russian diplomat.

Bahram Ghiassee, a London-based nuclear analyst at the Henry Jackson Society think-tank, linked the timing of Putin's remarks to Ukraine's lobbying of the West for long-range missiles and the fact that President Volodymyr Zelenskyy is making his case to U.S. President Joe Biden last week.

"Putin is saying: just stop it right there," Ghiassee said.

'NUCLEAR BLACKMAIL'

Reaction from Kyiv was swift, with Zelenskyy's chief of staff accusing Putin of "nuclear blackmail".

"In my opinion, this is yet another bluff and demonstration of Putin's weakness. He will not dare to use nuclear weapons because that will make him a complete outcast," Anton Gerashchenko, a former adviser to Ukraine's internal affairs minister, said on X.

U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said Putin's warning was irresponsible and poorly timed, and that it was not the first time he had been "rattling the nuclear saber".

Andreas Umland, an analyst at the Swedish Institute of International Affairs, accused Putin of playing mind games.

"This is a psychological PR operation, by the Kremlin, without much substance. It is designed to scare leaders & voters of countries supporting Ukraine," he wrote.

Fabian Hoffmann, a doctoral research fellow and defense expert in Oslo, said he did not believe Putin's comments could be ignored, but that it was important not to overreact.

"Russian nuclear use is not imminent," he said on X. "Concern is warranted only when Russia signals actual preparations."

Hoffmann said next steps could be removing warheads from storage and pairing them with delivery vehicles for a tactical strike, before ratcheting up preparations for large-scale nuclear use by readying silos and putting bombers on alert - all of which U.S. intelligence agencies would detect.

And Russia security expert Mark Galeotti wrote: "Talk is easy and has political impact, but evidence of actual willingness to use nuclear weapons is both absent and something we can detect if it ever happens."

LOWER THRESHOLD

Nevertheless, Putin was more specific than in the past about the circumstances that could prompt nuclear use. His spokesman said that his comments were meant as a signal to Western countries that there would be serious consequences if they participated in attacks on Russia.

At the same time, the announced changes fell short of what some hawkish commentators have been calling for. The best-known of them, Sergei Karaganov, has argued for a limited nuclear strike in Europe that would "sober up" Russia's enemies and make them take its nuclear deterrent seriously.

In practical terms, the changes extend Russia's nuclear umbrella to cover neighboring Belarus, a close ally. They lower the threshold for nuclear use by stating, for example, that it could happen in response to a conventional strike that posed a "critical threat to our sovereignty".

Previously, the nuclear doctrine talked about a threat to "the very existence of the state".

Putin made the announcement in a four-minute video in which he was seen addressing the nine members of a security council that meets twice-yearly to discuss nuclear deterrence.

He said nuclear use was an extreme measure and Russia had always approached the issue responsibly.

Ministers and intelligence chiefs listened intently, occasionally fidgeting or shuffling papers. One participant - Alexei Likhachev, head of state nuclear corporation Rosatom - took detailed notes.

But the real addressees of Putin's message were in Kyiv, Washington and London.

Yevgeny Minchenko, a Russian political consultant, said the thrust of the revised doctrine was a blunt message to Ukraine and the West not to escalate the war further into Russia.

"If you try to kill us with your proxy's hands, we will kill both your proxy and you," was the message, he said.

Sergei Markov, a former Kremlin adviser, said the changes opened the door to Russia using tactical nuclear battlefield weapons in certain scenarios, namely against Ukraine.

"The threshold for the use of nuclear weapons has been lowered. Now it will be easier for Russia to use nuclear weapons," Markov said on his official blog.

"The reason for changing the nuclear doctrine was the threat of a full escalation by the West. The West is sure that Russia will not use tactical nuclear weapons first. Russia is now saying it is ready to do so."

Markov suggested Russia could use tactical nuclear weapons against Ukraine, or air bases in Romania or Poland if Ukrainian warplanes flew sorties from there and if Kyiv - backed by U.S. or British satellite support - used the jets to strike Moscow itself or parts of central Russia.

'NO RESPECT'

Igor Korotchenko, a military analyst who often appears on state TV, said the changes were necessary because the West had ignored a slew of previous warning signals against further escalation, including Russian exercises in the summer rehearsing the use of tactical nuclear arms.

"We see that Western adversaries no longer respect any 'red lines', believing that any acts to arm Ukraine and Western-assisted strikes against facilities deep inside Russian territory will not be met with nuclear escalation," Korotchenko told the daily Izvestia newspaper.

Vladimir Avatkov, who sits on an official body that offers advice to Putin on international relations, said announcing the changes to the doctrine had allowed Moscow to get ahead of any Western decision on missiles for Ukraine.

"Let them think now," he said on Telegram. "This is an attempt to not just warn them, but to give them back the fear that they have completely lost. And perhaps even some strategic thinking."

The changes were strongly welcomed by Russian nationalists and war bloggers, some of whom have long advocated Moscow use nuclear weapons to force a Ukrainian capitulation, and led to a discussion about what could trigger a nuclear response.

Dmitry Medvedev, deputy chairman of Russia's Security Council and a former president, warned that Putin's words should give Ukraine and the West pause for thought.

"The very change in the regulatory conditions for our country's use of nuclear components may cool the fervor of those opponents who have not yet lost their sense of self-preservation," he said in a statement.

'LIKE SMALL KIDS'

Sokov, the former Russian diplomat, said there was a palpable sense of frustration in Moscow that the West appeared deaf to its many nuclear warnings.

He said that when Russia staged three rounds of exercises this year to simulate preparations for the launch of tactical nuclear missiles, there were complaints in the media and among experts that Western countries were not paying attention.

"So now they decided to strengthen the signal," Sokov said. "Putin decided the West is like small kids, and you have to explain every small thing because they just don't get it."

Sokov said he was concerned about "loose talk" among politicians and commentators who argue that the West has crossed a series of Russian red lines with impunity - by supplying Ukraine with tanks and F-16 fighter jets, for example - and that Moscow's warnings can therefore be ignored.

In fact, he said, the West had yet to breach two red lines that Russia had spelt out clearly: sending NATO troops to fight in Ukraine, and letting Ukraine fire Western long-range missiles into Russia.

"How can we say how (Putin) is going to react, if so far we have not actually crossed any Russian red lines?" he said in a phone interview, arguing that such an approach was based on guesswork, not data."I'm really concerned about all the loose talk, precisely because we run head-on into a situation which is completely unfamiliar to us ... If you do not factor in the risks, you are likely to have a very unpleasant surprise."

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An easy solution is to downgrade the weapons so they don't require US satellites and/or just send the parts to Ukraine. If the dictator wants to interpret that as the West attacking then there was no reasoning with the dictator to begin with.

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An easy solution is to downgrade the weapons so they don't require US satellites and/or just send the parts to Ukraine.

An easy solution for Russia would be downgrade the initial attack from an actual nuke strike to just a conventional strike on one of Zelensky's nuke plants.

NATO would have no recourse but face serious consequences for decades.

Or NATO can do the right thing and stop adding fuel to the fire.

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BanthuToday 07:21 am JST

NATO would have no recourse but face serious consequences for decades.

So would Russia, but you would never know that its cities aren't currently experiencing a nuclear holocaust.

Or NATO can do the right thing and stop adding fuel to the fire.

The fire will burn the arsonist that started it: Putin.

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Putin has had multiple "red lines" drawn. All of them have already been crossed. He threatened a nuclear response if the West supported Ukraine. He threatened nukes if the West sent HIMARS and similar systems. He threatened nukes over F-16s. He threatened nukes if Western weapons were used to strike Russian territory. All of these happened, without any nuclear response. This is the same thing. The West knows that Putin is bluffing. Everyone knows he won't go through with it. He can't go through with it. The US has already outlined what will happen if he uses even tactical nukes against Ukraine. Putin is losing his grip on power and he knows his days are numbered, and quite literally days. His economy lay in ruins, his military has been humiliated, his "strong man" image has been shattered, his people are getting more and more outraged, and the country is stepping closer and closer to civil war. And when a Russian president loses their strong man image, they're kicked out of office sooner or later. The same will happen to Putin. His threats will amount to nothing because they are worth nothing. Threats only work if you're afraid of the person making them. Ukraine isn't afraid, and nor is the West. He's finished.

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Putin won't do a damn thing with his nuclear weapons- he's threatened before, he'll threaten again. Just shows he's scared of long range weapons- which is exactly why they need to be approved.

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No one is scared of Mini-Me Putins' endless threats and talk of "Red lines" anymore.

The guy can't even hold a pen without his hand shaking. How pathetic!

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Russian President Vladimir Putin has drawn a "red line" for the United States and its allies by signaling that Moscow will consider responding with nuclear weapons if they allow Ukraine to strike deep inside Russia with long-range Western missiles.

That is Russias docrine, and it is correct. Once this American proxy war agains Russia escalates to direct confrontation, nuclear is on the table. This is not different from Kennedys reaction to Sovjet missiles in Cuba.

Which planet are the current Western politicians living on, thinking they can bully a nuclear armed superpower like a 3rd world country?

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funkymofo

Putin won't do a damn thing with his nuclear weapons- he's threatened before, he'll threaten again. Just shows he's scared of long range weapons- which is exactly why they need to be approved.

So you are arguing that there is never a straw that breaks the camel's back? The real world is not like that.

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He knows he would be annihilated.

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Russia is not making threats, it is giving a warning. There is a difference.

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Putin can draw a redline but I’m sure he has a big eraser head!!

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A rival nuclear power that supported a country attacking Russia would be considered a party to that attack.

Both those criteria apply directly to the situation that would arise if the West allows Ukraine to strike deep inside Russian territory with Western long-range missiles such as U.S. ATACMS and British Storm Shadows, something Putin has said would need Western satellite and targeting support.

Yeah, not just approval but direct order and participation by respective govts to guide missiles

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ZaphodToday 11:25 am JST

Once this American proxy war agains Russia escalates to direct confrontation, nuclear is on the table.

Still Putin's War

This is not different from Kennedys reaction to Sovjet missiles in Cuba.

NATO nukes have not moved. Russian nukes on the other hand...

Which planet are the current Western politicians living on, thinking they can bully a nuclear armed superpower like a 3rd world country?

The planet where said nuclear armed regional power already engaged in savagery.

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Russian President Vladimir Putin has drawn a "red line" for the United States and its allies by signaling that Moscow will consider responding with nuclear weapons if they allow Ukraine to strike deep inside Russia with long-range Western missiles.

Yeah, Nah, not going to ever happen.

Consider Russia is already using ling range missiles from Iran and North Korea deep inside Ukraine. Consider also that if Ukraine actually buys long range missiles they should be able to use them in defense of Ukraine including in the invaders territory as all other weapons are used when purchased and a country is invaded.

Russia knows that there is already a red line on Russian use of Nuclear weapons and if it initiates such use it will be at war with NATO once radiation sweeps over a NATO border if nothing else.

Russia would be the first nation to use nuclear weapons upon mankind after the results and horrors of such use was first obtained at the end of WWII when the US used two. Some handful of Americans knew how bad it could turn out to be but others were simply told it was a new big bomb that would speed up the end of the years long world war. Russia would be turning itself into a world recognized evil nation that would live on in history forever more.

Russia will not use nuclear weapons unless perhaps Moscow was in danger of being lost by ground invasion. That wont happen either. Another Russian bluff to delay, as was giving modern tanks, and giving F-16's before this, were both used to suggest it would mean NATO was at war with Russia.

Russia accepted arms to use against Germany, from a neutral America in WWII, and it used them all. There is nothing here that justifies Russia using nukes when it is the aggressor and invader of Ukraine. Nothing at all.

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